am I missing something or is there no exact historical precedent for a regime that explicitly advertises not just punishment but torture for its citizens - and not just that but torture executed by a foreign actor? even the Inquisition, which this feels a bit like, didn't outsource torture, right? - ThreadSky

thephatic.bsky.social • 5 days ago

am I missing something or is there no exact historical precedent for a regime that explicitly advertises not just punishment but torture for its citizens - and not just that but torture executed by a foreign actor? even the Inquisition, which this feels a bit like, didn't outsource torture, right?

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stevehayward.bsky.social•4 days ago

Been waiting for someone to call the administration out for offshoring torture jobs

dabxdee.bsky.social•4 days ago

Your oppression is their profession.

beebeewood.bsky.social•4 days ago

naudhdfeminist.bsky.social•4 days ago

Aren’t these classic capitalistic principles? Either outsource so that wages are low and profits remain high; or use government contracts to enrich you and your friends?

milovoo.bsky.social•5 days ago

There are differences, but Slovakia paid the Nazis to deport their Jewish population.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Holocaust_transports_from_Slovakia

thephatic.bsky.social•4 days ago

interesting, thanks!

notmine20172025.bsky.social•4 days ago

You’re not missing a thing. This is as unprecedented as they come.

emceehammerpants.bsky.social•5 days ago

It’s extremely on brand for technofascists to outsource this sort of work because, frankly, they outsource all work. Why pay a white prison guard in Louisiana to beat the shit out of you when a brown one will do it for a quarter of the price in South America?

archivelady.bsky.social•5 days ago

I think the aim of outsourcing the torture is to make Americans feel less accountability for it. It's something "they" are doing far away. Easier to memory-hole.

adorakrem.bsky.social•4 days ago

Isn't the US is bound by law not to torture of prisoners. Also, the US Constitution - Article 4 rings a bell - prohibits cruel & unusual punishment. I think that would include torture. By sending people to El Salvador, Trusk probably thinks they can say the US didn't torture them - only by proxy

adorakrem.bsky.social•4 days ago

Sorry, it's the 8th Amendment. It appears that the famed right wing Justice Scalia said torture isn't punishment at all! His "tortured" reasoning is discussed here:
https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/58412/does-torture-violate-the-us-federal-constitution-and-if-so-under-which-theory

nancyspantsbelt.bsky.social•5 days ago

This Koup Klutz Klan must go!

dan2dogs.bsky.social•4 days ago

Their argument: If you outsource it, it isn't really you doing it.

They are wrong, of course, but this is the brain power we are up against.

It's difficult to fight stupid.

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