And the left doesn’t respect Liberals. Liberals have shown themselves to be entitled hypocritical bigots. You aren’t owed support from the left and should expect to be shown the same level of respect you afford the left. You want a double standard that benefits you. - ThreadSky

lime-equine.bsky.social • 2 days ago

And the left doesn’t respect Liberals. Liberals have shown themselves to be entitled hypocritical bigots.

You aren’t owed support from the left and should expect to be shown the same level of respect you afford the left.

You want a double standard that benefits you.

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cairenntairisu.bsky.social•2 days ago

You didn't even read what I said. I am MORE progressive than most "American progressives". I want things that aren't even standard in European social democracies (yet, but are being discussed at least). I understand the multiple models of universal healthcare. Most American "leftists" don't even

cairenntairisu.bsky.social•2 days ago

know that there are multiple models of universal healthcare. So you go lumping me in with "liberals" without understanding that I've got no love of centrists or what Democrats call "liberals".

But respect? I've TRIED to have conversations about universal healthcare with American "leftists" and

cairenntairisu.bsky.social•2 days ago

it usually devolves into them just screaming "MEDICARE FOR ALL!" without bothering to understand why I happen to think that's a bad model for universal healthcare in the US. (I'd prefer a BIsmarckian system for several reasons and definitely NOT a Beveridge system because the US can't handle that).

cairenntairisu.bsky.social•2 days ago

So I HAVE tried to respect American leftists, but without fail, THEY are the ones that start screaming at me because I don't bow down to Bernie Fucking Sanders and his "Medicare for all" cult. That's happened so many times I am no longer surprised when it happens now.

lime-equine.bsky.social•2 days ago

And calling people cultists is a good reason for them to ignore you.

lime-equine.bsky.social•2 days ago

And you’re entitled to your opinion but no one’s time or attention.

lime-equine.bsky.social•2 days ago

Call yourself whatever you want. You are labeling others and making judgments based on association. Are you surprised the same thing could happen to you?

lime-equine.bsky.social•2 days ago

I read what you said. Whatever you consider yourself you’re positioning yourself against a group you label as progressives. If you want to be antagonistic expect to be antagonized, don’t expect a different standard of treatment. You can dislike the language but the intent is obviously the same.

mickster67.bsky.social•2 days ago

Keyboard guerrillas hiding behind pseudonyms and anime profile pictures may eventually mature into owning who they are.
Maybe

lime-equine.bsky.social•2 days ago

I hope Liberals grow to be who they pretend to be instead of who they’re too embarrassed to share they are.

mickster67.bsky.social•2 days ago

I’m limiting my current ire to 3PP’s: third party progressives. Their arguments are based on the same faulty contingencies as the Talibangelicals: “If _everyone_ would just do ‘XYZ’”.

cairenntairisu.bsky.social•2 days ago

Yeah, people are not a monolith and you can't expect everyone to have the same needs, priorities, & experiences to draw from.

That's one reason I focus on civil rights. Everyone deserves the same rights, period, full stop. We HAVE to agree to that. Then we can discuss differing needs & priorities.

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