Not under the present regime. Turkey fails to meet several of the EU requirements regarding democracy and independence of the judiciary. (To be fair, the same criteria should mean that Hungary was booted out...as it should be).
Ukraine can't join NATO as long a part is being occupied by Russia and Russia won't give it back, knowing this. Joining the EU has similar hick-ups, no matter how much we want it, there are some basic things that need to be in order for that to happen, Russia and Hungary will frustrate that efford.
That is also true but different times with different players that had different goals and mind sets. Can't compare it 100% but only point to it "as an option if there is a will and mindset" , that's the problem now. Some players are in a possition to block and frustrate that option.
Times are indeed different and there is a will now. There have been credible reporting about discussions both between member countries on Hungary place in the union. My guess is that Hungary will not be an obstacle one way or another
Have to see to believe it but I hope so, Protest against Orban are growing so who knows how long he will remain and who will replace him. Many eyes got opened the last few years after Putin invaded Ukraine while those where still "sleeping" when he did it to Crimea.
Not until Erdogan allows actual democratic elections in the country and someone else that has no connection with Erdogan or his political associates becomes the president.
No. Not with Erdogan or a Muslim country at all. We don't share the same values of human life and also Turkey is very very corrupt. As a society they are corrupt to its core. You can't have such people with you. They need to change to love their neighbors.
When it meets criteria for membership. These include democracy, rule of law and respect of human rights. So there is quite a journey before they are ready.
It seems Erdogan and sleepy joe worked together to bring down Assad, kick Russia out of Syria military base, rebalance power in the entire Middle East. He needs brought in closer thru carrots and sticks.
Turkey has a lot to focus on internally well before that question is seriously considered. I don't see it happening for a few more decades if it happens at all.
I would welcome Turkey into the EU as together we're stronger. However, Turkey has an issue with the concept of democracy and fair elections, and clearly, from reports of recent events, it will take tremendous effort to align their politics with Europe.
If I were European, I'd be holding my nose. Turkiye is ruled by a rather nasty dictator who is no supporter of liberal democracies. But it also has the largest land military force in Europe, and sits on a vital sea route.
EU needs a status for associated nations. Basically a status as closely tied, but not quite a full member. Should give countries like Turkey, Ukraine, UK, Canada, Norway, Georgia, Greenland a favored status for trading with EU. Would also allow to “demote” Hungary and other potential autocrats…
My opinion on this is pointless and trivial 🤷♂️
But this IS a good question for our current times!
Let me just add one useful bit of information...Turkey's position is complicated and causes a headache for BOTH sides no matter which side it would pick.
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But I can't resist. Turkish people are among the highest number of refuges in many European countries, imagine French people have to flee their country as refuges inside the European Union.
Absurd!
In principle I agree but the main reason "they" don't, is knowing those countries/ governments / autocrates, most likely will fully be "adopted" by Russia. To keep the EU foot in the door "they" hope the next ruler will be more EU alined, assisted with internal protest that no longer tollerate it.
I think Turkey is not interested at the moment so the question is out of the table.
I guess EU should try to make separate trade agreements instead of getting new members from countries which have separate culture background. Ukraine and Moldova will be accepted, others not in the near future.
Ataturk's turkey yes.
If Erdogan changes the constitution to run in 28 *and* rigs the election or the CHP fails catastrophically then Ataturk's turkey is over - and a hard 'no'
No, but it could never happen anyway under Turkey’s current dictatorship. It was one of the Brexit lies before the UK referendum. The EU has strict standards that Erdogan could never meet.
No, turkey is led by a dictator supporting Muslim brothers which is a terrorist organism aiming to take power in democracies to impose their very extreme Muslim system !!!
Never Turkey will join European Union, and at least, as long as islam rigoristes lead the country !
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If there is a will, there is a way ..
Come to think of it, there's another NATO country that meets that criteria now.
They're far from European values and standards.
But if they get him to give up power at some point, and establish an actual democracy, then yes.
With America imploding, Europe nreds Turkiye.
Also arguably the least democratic aspirant ever.
But this IS a good question for our current times!
Let me just add one useful bit of information...Turkey's position is complicated and causes a headache for BOTH sides no matter which side it would pick.
I'm more drawn towards Canada.
From Erdogan , no!
not now, not in 5 yrs, not in 10 yrs, not in 20 yrs
ask again then
But I can't resist. Turkish people are among the highest number of refuges in many European countries, imagine French people have to flee their country as refuges inside the European Union.
Absurd!
EU (and NATO) actually needs a mechanism for expulsion of states that fail to maintain democratic standards.
I guess EU should try to make separate trade agreements instead of getting new members from countries which have separate culture background. Ukraine and Moldova will be accepted, others not in the near future.
If Erdogan changes the constitution to run in 28 *and* rigs the election or the CHP fails catastrophically then Ataturk's turkey is over - and a hard 'no'
Canada! Ukraine! Balcans!
Never Turkey will join European Union, and at least, as long as islam rigoristes lead the country !