“For years, whenever the idea of a European army was floated, the main objector was NATO and the US, because it was seen as a threat to NATO's centrality as a defence force. Now, America turns around and asks ‘why don’t you have your own European army?’ after blocking it for decades.” - ThreadSky

quietriotpod.bsky.social • 2 days ago

“For years, whenever the idea of a European army was floated, the main objector was NATO and the US, because it was seen as a threat to NATO's centrality as a defence force. Now, America turns around and asks ‘why don’t you have your own European army?’ after blocking it for decades.”

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@sturdyalex.bsky.social & @ommasalma.bsky.social w NATO specialist @lukemcgee.bsky.social, ask quite simply whether America is still an ally.

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jorichardskent.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Remember how an “EU army” was used as a threat and a reason to leave the EU?

Now the same people are saying “Europe shouldn’t rely on the US to defend them”. 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️🙄

We should have had a European army and these Right Wing Brexiters were wrong!

#ReesMogg
#Farage
#Brexit
#Ukraine
#Putin
#Russia

quietriotpod.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Yup. And their argument ALWAYS was: it weakens NATO.

thisyank.bsky.social•2 days ago

I look forward to listening. But mostly I am so sorry for the world and deeply ashamed of my country.

sandypuke.bsky.social•2 days ago

There was quite a lot of nonsense about it from the Brexit proponents too.

9 years on, post Ukraine and Trump 2.0, I wonder if it’s as bad an idea as they pretended.

stephenstroud.bsky.social•2 days ago

Great discussion on whether Trump is, wittingly or not, providing some service by "unblocking" progress on Ukraine, as if it were a domestic u-bend.
Except, that he decided to try dynamite.

jdvero.bsky.social•2 days ago

Trump is on a huge cost cutting drive to pay off his billionaire backers. That is what motivates him. Now look at all he dors through that lens and it suddenly makes sense.

quietriotpod.bsky.social•2 days ago

In what way.

jdvero.bsky.social•2 days ago

He got power to cut taxes for the billionaires, that is why they funded him. He took Musk into government to cut 90% as he did at Twitter. He wants put of Ukraine to cut costs. ....

checking-in.bsky.social•2 days ago

Except "cost cutting" is the pretext: in reality the cuts are targeted at parts of the state considered to be left leaning.

jdvero.bsky.social•2 days ago

That is the story he sells to the sap maga voters. Think about it. Trump is about power and money, that is all.

smfbooth.bsky.social•2 days ago

Exactly.

safraser91.bsky.social•2 days ago

Saw a great vid by a former Finnish officer who pointed out, quite rightly, that in all of America's wars of the past 80 years, Europe answered their call for help. The Americans turn round now in our time of need and tell us to get fucked. We cannot rely on them.

tessadk.bsky.social•2 days ago

🌀✨ #truth #3E ✨🌀

brexitvoyeur.bsky.social•2 days ago

I’m very naive in these matters but, in theory, could NATO kick the yanks out? Or would that be enough for it to cease to exist?

quietriotpod.bsky.social•2 days ago

I don't think either needs to happen. The vast majority of stuff happens under the banner "coalition of the willing" anyway. It is more the procurement side that non-US members need to coordinate, but that can be done with bi-lats and multi-lats. See, for instance, UK-Norway agreement today. A x

brexitvoyeur.bsky.social•2 days ago

Thanks Alex! 👍

localnotail.bsky.social•2 days ago

Farage in December 2016 - projecting wildly

localnotail.bsky.social•2 days ago

Farage in December 2016 - thirsty for Putin

localnotail.bsky.social•2 days ago

full Nigel Farage + Tucker Carlson Putin thirst video about Russian interference in the Brexit vote from 16.12.16 https://www.foxnews.com/video/5250189322001#sp=show-clips

quietriotpod.bsky.social•2 days ago

Don't share it. Clip it. They get ad revenue. A x

localnotail.bsky.social•2 days ago

I'm not sure there are any ads on that, it's been weirdly tucked away on their server for 8 years.

I just like leaving sources, you know me.

localnotail.bsky.social•2 days ago

That Tucker Carlson - Nigel Farage Russia-Brexit video has always fascinated me, not just because of their shared Putin thirst, but because the interview was in mid-December but video only went up Feb 04 2017

Always wondered about the delay.
Maybe a reason other than a Fox staffer with a conscience

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