Their imports can be replaced or just removed with the result being middle/upper class angst but they are powerless anyway, so let them wring their hands. The west should cut off medical and pharmaceutical supplies to ruzzia. Force them to the get out of Ukraine or die out because of disease. - ThreadSky

jonnyjohns.bsky.social • 28 days ago

Their imports can be replaced or just removed with the result being middle/upper class angst but they are powerless anyway, so let them wring their hands.

The west should cut off medical and pharmaceutical supplies to ruzzia. Force them to the get out of Ukraine or die out because of disease.

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bearmarshal.bsky.social•28 days ago

Have you even read Prune's threads? Sanction dodging happens, yes, but it's slow and expensive, and no one is handing Russia freebies, they have to export something to pay for this stuff.

And their import replacement scheme sounds good on paper, but the implementation is lacklustre. Just ask SJ-100

bearmarshal.bsky.social•28 days ago

It's been three years now and we're still seeing the Russian state trying to skim all its needs off the market economy. They clearly won't act unless forced to; when they finally act, it'll be because everything is in chaos and an orderly transformation won't be possible anymore.

jonnyjohns.bsky.social•28 days ago

As this is becoming a circular argument, i will give you this link to perhaps re-align your thinking and sign off:

https://www.csis.org/analysis/down-not-out-russian-economy-under-western-sanctions

bearmarshal.bsky.social•26 days ago

Finally finished reading it. It's a report on Western sanctions. Key points as I read it:
- 2014 sanctions were largely unsuccessful
- 2022 sanctions were too slow and not all of them productive, but are today having a significant impact on Russia's economy
- We shouldn't roll back sanctions

bearmarshal.bsky.social•26 days ago

What it isn't:
- A report on the manufacturing capability of the Russian military industry
- A report on the state of the Russian economy
- A financial forecast

bearmarshal.bsky.social•26 days ago

I don't disagree with conclusions of the report at large, but I would've liked some source criticism when they say Russia "registered double-digit inflation-adjusted growth" and that "salaries went up [...] 8.7 percent in real terms", citing the official Russian government statistics.

briteblusky.bsky.social•28 days ago

That's the key for me... When they finally act they will not be able to do it in any kind of orderly way as the chaos will already be out of control.

Gangster states don't do chaos very well... everybody looks to carve out their own security while the chaos provides cover.

bearmarshal.bsky.social•28 days ago

I agree that Russia must be fought on the battlefield, and we shouldn't put our faith in Russia collapsing from the economy, but this doom and gloom isn't realistic.

On top of that, it discourages from decisive action. Who wants to fight fearless super-serfs backed by an infinite war machine?

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