I'm not gonna be nice to Nazis. They didn't vote for lower grocery prices. They voted because Trump hates the same people they do. There's a time to be nice and a time to be shamed. - ThreadSky

dadvolante.bsky.social • 51 days ago

I'm not gonna be nice to Nazis.

They didn't vote for lower grocery prices. They voted because Trump hates the same people they do.

There's a time to be nice and a time to be shamed.

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knowmeknot.bsky.social•51 days ago

Agreed. Subtle shaming by asking a simple question. “Why would our President say this? Would you say this to the families of those 67 who died? When is this ok to say? What is lacking in a human being to say it?” Let them answer.

dadvolante.bsky.social•51 days ago

If that works for you, that's fine.

But these aren't gentle little porcelain dolls.

These are people who are okay with concentration camps, taking away the rights of marginalized groups of people, and bastardizing the message of Jesus.

First you OWN your fuck ups, THEN we form relationships.

wissian.bsky.social•51 days ago

Right on. I changed my FB picture to this today:

katerodham.bsky.social•51 days ago

exactly this. if one more person stupidly claims they voted for trump bc of economic anxiety i will scream.

cmorris624.bsky.social•51 days ago

They’re getting pretty brave on other platforms and are outing themselves. At this point, we know and they know, it wasn’t about the economy. Every racist, bigoted thing Trump does, on my local threads I see several magas saying “that’s why we voted for him!”

katerodham.bsky.social•51 days ago

that’s disgusting.

mesheldo.bsky.social•51 days ago

It’s like saying the civil war wasn’t about owning people as property. BS.

rylandawson.bsky.social•51 days ago

THANKYOU. I had a massive debate about this with a lefty friend of mine. It had nothing to do with eggs, that’s just what they said to cover their sexism/racism.

jackcheese.bsky.social•51 days ago

I refuse to believe 77 million people in this country are bigots and Nazis who hate minorities. Most people are good people, but many are misinformed. It’s our job to reach and educate them.

People aren’t going to side with you if you actively hate and shame them for what they believe.

dadvolante.bsky.social•51 days ago

We've had over ten years of reaching out and trying to educate.

Educate YOURSELF. We are a vain, ignorant, hyper individualistic society and have been for generations. We throw our parents into nursing homes when they're a bother. We throw out children into treatment centers when they are a chore.

jackcheese.bsky.social•51 days ago

True. That doesn’t change the fact that people won’t side with people who hate them. If you need over half the country to side with you next election, a big middle finger isn’t the way to do it.

I understand the frustration though. I’m consistently mad whenever I check the news.

knowmeknot.bsky.social•50 days ago

You don’t need half the country. Only 5% need to flip their vote.

dadvolante.bsky.social•51 days ago

We don't need them, though. We need to motivate the 80 million who stayed at home.

We got a remember, it's about a third of the country who voted MAGA. It's our job to get the ones who stayed at home off their asses.

A middle finger to the right people can help fire up the complacent.

chrisbunchonumbers.bsky.social•48 days ago

Ok. Re-read what you just wrote, and now apply that to LGBTQ+, immigrant citizens, and POCs when you tell them to try to bring these people back into the fold of humanity.

And remember who started this hate-fest, too. It's been coming from the Right since the 90s.

knowmeknot.bsky.social•48 days ago

All have been influenced by fear, and lies. There are those who embrace it with open eyes of hate. Is that true of every MAGA voter? Plenty are mere sheep without critical thinking, hence the cult mentality. Forgiveness does not change the past, but it does enlarge the future.

chrisbunchonumbers.bsky.social•47 days ago

Forgiveness requires contrition.

jackcheese.bsky.social•47 days ago

Right. I doubt many LGBTQ+, immigrants, and people of color will side with conservatives, especially now.

I’m not saying we side with Trump voters. What I am saying is I’ve never convinced a Trump supporter of my stance by being mean to them. Being nice and talking it out has worked much better.

chrisbunchonumbers.bsky.social•46 days ago

I'm always willing to talk nicely to a Trump voter who starts out being nice. But I almost never run into them.

And even when they are civil, inevitably they start declaring uncomfortable facts to be fake news. At that point, there's nothing to be done. They don't want to engage seriously.

nerdyv1xen.bsky.social•51 days ago

Bingo.

berycortez.bsky.social•51 days ago

💯!!!

sea34b.bsky.social•51 days ago

My mother has been saying that very thing for years now. Thing is, the ingrates that voted for him do not realize that he hates them too.

politiclyhomeless.bsky.social•51 days ago

I’m not convinced that all of the Trump voters are filled with hate. I have family member who voted for him who clearly don’t fit that profile.

knowmeknot.bsky.social•51 days ago

Yes. Those are the ones you implore. Plenty of people who were not paying enough attention. We are the anomaly who read everything and follow politics. Need 5% to flip their vote for blue state wins.

dadvolante.bsky.social•51 days ago

I know Trumpers who are "sweet" and "nice".

You can have a heart of hate and supremacy while still having the outwardly appearance of being kind.

My mother is one of them. Infinitely sweet and polite.

Hates anyone who isn't white.

They're either hateful or stupid. They should be called on both

politiclyhomeless.bsky.social•51 days ago

I prefer to think my relatives are stupid. I hope I am right.

dadvolante.bsky.social•51 days ago

I think mine are, too.

Hang in there. Find your joy.

Joy is an act of resistance.

politiclyhomeless.bsky.social•51 days ago

You are right. Thanks for making that point.

janarchy.bsky.social•51 days ago

I know mine are.

the-waters-fine.bsky.social•51 days ago

They intentionally have certain POC friends just to say "see I'm not.." look at what Proud B does. My mother always so inviting towards other races just told me they benefited off skills taught in slav ry. I know exactly why she voted for him.

I'm not gentle parenting this.

gdsmithtx.bsky.social•51 days ago

If your family member isn't filled with hate, then they absolutely have no problem making common cause with the overtly hateful.

knowmeknot.bsky.social•51 days ago

They may very well be. Or they may be struggling with pride to admit they screwed up. We are not the enemy. Be ready to welcome them back to sanity with kindness. It goes further.

edolis.bsky.social•48 days ago

honestly looks like the calls to treat the russians kindly when talking about the UA war. You still need a US political Bucha - we just at day 14/1460.

gdsmithtx.bsky.social•51 days ago

They have to a) change and b) admit their errors. Fuck bullshit pride.

I left the GOP in the 80s over the unbelievably shocking corruption of Iran-Contra and never voted conservative again. If I can realize my errors and completely change my political philosophy over principles, so can they.

chrisbunchonumbers.bsky.social•48 days ago

I'm sorry. But as long as they declare trans people don't exist, women don't have absolute rights over their bodies, and immigrants are diseased rapists and dangerous criminals, they very much are the enemy of all that is decent.

They need to decry that, not just whine they are badly treated.

knowmeknot.bsky.social•48 days ago

Heard. Lengthy article but well worth it. Especially the end.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/07/trumps-collaborators/612250/?gift=xrNAdcCC-4ReSdfD4WNL5-pV_lC9R23xRrDE7n-Y1nY&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

semiscientific.bsky.social•48 days ago

💯

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