explanation is that the theatre company possessed them, and we can tell from the quote you were just provided from the FF dedication that H&C had them in their possession at least for the purposes of converting them into printed text, if not all along. But you don't have any evidence that they were - ThreadSky

modernmusicmaniac.bsky.social • 9 days ago

explanation is that the theatre company possessed them, and we can tell from the quote you were just provided from the FF dedication that H&C had them in their possession at least for the purposes of converting them into printed text, if not all along. But you don't have any evidence that they were

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modernmusicmaniac.bsky.social•9 days ago

EVER in the possession of Edward de Vere, nor that this entirely notional possession passed either to Susan Vere or the Herberts, whereas we have John Heminges and Henry Condell saying that they collected the plays together so they could preserve the memory of their friend and fellow Shakespeare.

richard-c34.bsky.social•9 days ago

Earth to Conjecture Central.

modernmusicmaniac.bsky.social•9 days ago

So what did Earth want to tell you?

Because that Heminges and Condell wrote that they had gathered the works together to honor their friend and fellow actor's memory is not "conjecture" but documentary fact. It's in the dedication to the First Folio, just like the fact that a consortium of printers

modernmusicmaniac.bsky.social•9 days ago

paid the "charges" of producing the First Folio instead of the Herbert brothers or Susan Vere is documentary fact recorded in the First Folio on the colophon (on the last page).

So the only person spewing rampant speculation around here is YOU.

At least I now know what the "c" stands for.

richard-c34.bsky.social•8 days ago

Hurling insults is all you are good for. You cannot prove anything despite the fact that you are “scholastic”. You have conjecture written all over your candidate. The clear use of an allonym is there for all to see. You just don’t want to find your job obsolete

modernmusicmaniac.bsky.social•7 days ago

P. S., I missed the bit about "You just don't want to find your job obsolete." I can't say that I've ever worried that discovering Edward de Vere or whoever else wrote the plays would render my job as a molecular geneticist obsolete. Can you explain the connection there?

However, even if I were a

modernmusicmaniac.bsky.social•7 days ago

Shakespeare scholar, I wouldn't worry about any discoveries about the supposed 'true author' rendering my job obsolete because NOBODY'S job merely involves saying, "Shakespeare wrote plays and poems" to a chorus of yeses from one's colleagues.

Shakespeare scholars take a variety of angles on the

modernmusicmaniac.bsky.social•7 days ago

Saying that you're the one who is spewing rampant speculation is not an insult; it's merely being accurate.

And I don't have a "candidate". It's not as if we're talking about a body of anonymously published works and any writer from the early modern period may have written them. William Shakespeare

modernmusicmaniac.bsky.social•7 days ago

is the name on the earliest published canonical work (Venus and Adonis, 1593) and on its successor narrative poem (The Rape of Lucrece, 1594). His name appears on the plays in 1598 and consistently thereafter. His name is on "Let the Bird of Loudest Lay", published in Love's Martyr by Robert Chester

richard-c34.bsky.social•7 days ago

So what is the matter with you? If you don’t have a candidate, why are you SO vindictive towards De Vere? If Shaxper is not your candidate, I advise you to stop this invective. It is not good for your health. As a scientist, you have to prove things are wrong till you can do that no longer.

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