paid the "charges" of producing the First Folio instead of the Herbert brothers or Susan Vere is documentary fact recorded in the First Folio on the colophon (on the last page). So the only person spewing rampant speculation around here is YOU. At least I now know what the "c" stands for. - ThreadSky

modernmusicmaniac.bsky.social • 9 days ago

paid the "charges" of producing the First Folio instead of the Herbert brothers or Susan Vere is documentary fact recorded in the First Folio on the colophon (on the last page).

So the only person spewing rampant speculation around here is YOU.

At least I now know what the "c" stands for.

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richard-c34.bsky.social•8 days ago

Hurling insults is all you are good for. You cannot prove anything despite the fact that you are “scholastic”. You have conjecture written all over your candidate. The clear use of an allonym is there for all to see. You just don’t want to find your job obsolete

modernmusicmaniac.bsky.social•7 days ago

P. S., I missed the bit about "You just don't want to find your job obsolete." I can't say that I've ever worried that discovering Edward de Vere or whoever else wrote the plays would render my job as a molecular geneticist obsolete. Can you explain the connection there?

However, even if I were a

modernmusicmaniac.bsky.social•7 days ago

Shakespeare scholar, I wouldn't worry about any discoveries about the supposed 'true author' rendering my job obsolete because NOBODY'S job merely involves saying, "Shakespeare wrote plays and poems" to a chorus of yeses from one's colleagues.

Shakespeare scholars take a variety of angles on the

modernmusicmaniac.bsky.social•7 days ago

plays – exploring early modern performance practices, examining them as reflective of their historical moment on subjects like politics, race, gender, selfhood, etc., looking at them through the lens of literary criticism, etc., etc., etc. None of this research would be challenged if it were found

modernmusicmaniac.bsky.social•7 days ago

today that the 'true author' was Edward de Vere or the boy who blacked his boots. The fact is that biographical approaches to literature – ALL literature – went out with the corset, the daguerreotype, and ladies' finishing schools. Shakespeare deniers simply have not kept up with the last 100 years.

modernmusicmaniac.bsky.social•7 days ago

Saying that you're the one who is spewing rampant speculation is not an insult; it's merely being accurate.

And I don't have a "candidate". It's not as if we're talking about a body of anonymously published works and any writer from the early modern period may have written them. William Shakespeare

modernmusicmaniac.bsky.social•7 days ago

is the name on the earliest published canonical work (Venus and Adonis, 1593) and on its successor narrative poem (The Rape of Lucrece, 1594). His name appears on the plays in 1598 and consistently thereafter. His name is on "Let the Bird of Loudest Lay", published in Love's Martyr by Robert Chester

modernmusicmaniac.bsky.social•7 days ago

(1601). His name is on the sonnets (1609). And his name is on the the First Folio (1623). In the First Folio, his theatrical colleagues John Heminges and Henry Condell affirmed that they gathered the works together for publication in order to honor their "Friend, & Fellow" named Shakespeare. And in

modernmusicmaniac.bsky.social•7 days ago

point of fact, EVERY contemporary who bothered to speak or write on the subject, including several who had provable personal and/or professional ties to William Shakespeare of Stratford-upon-Avon, said he was the author. In addition to the title page/dedication page information and contemporaries

modernmusicmaniac.bsky.social•7 days ago

telling us he was an author, we also have Stationers' Register entries, Revels Account entries, and listings from contemporary literary anthologies like Englands Helicon identifying Shakespeare as an author. Stamping your feet and screaming "IT'S NOT SO!" isn't a convincing rebuttal to this evidence

richard-c34.bsky.social•7 days ago

So what is the matter with you? If you don’t have a candidate, why are you SO vindictive towards De Vere? If Shaxper is not your candidate, I advise you to stop this invective. It is not good for your health. As a scientist, you have to prove things are wrong till you can do that no longer.

modernmusicmaniac.bsky.social•7 days ago

I'm not vindictive; I'm merely unconvinced, nor am I uniquely against de Vere. Almost ALL Shakespeare authorship deniers (barring those who merely profess to be unconvinced without offering any particular 'candidate' instead) are pushing people on the canon without the slightest documentary evidence

modernmusicmaniac.bsky.social•7 days ago

that their preferred authors actually wrote the works. Nor can they identify any contemporaries who EXPLICITLY said that any other person wrote the whole of the canon. They may attempt to generate 'testimony' by pretending that every reference to Shakespeare's authorship is actually a sly glance at

modernmusicmaniac.bsky.social•7 days ago

the 'true author', but the only thing that rhetorical legerdemain proves is that the contemporary testimony regarding Shakespeare's authorship is enormous and that they can't allow it to have its face-value meaning at any price. Their need to twist the evidence into knots is not evidence other than

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