Always annoyed when people here assert that all Republicans have been fascists from Reagan on down to Trump. You sound like MAGAs who claim every Democrat is a Marxist. You're just demonstrating that you lack the ability to imagine anyone who could disagree with you and not be completely evil. - ThreadSky

prchovanec.bsky.social • 37 days ago

Always annoyed when people here assert that all Republicans have been fascists from Reagan on down to Trump. You sound like MAGAs who claim every Democrat is a Marxist. You're just demonstrating that you lack the ability to imagine anyone who could disagree with you and not be completely evil.

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prchovanec.bsky.social•37 days ago

It's also a self-defeating argument. If Trump is really nothing new, then why get excited about it?

jim584.bsky.social•37 days ago

Republicans from Reagan on have always wanted a two tier system in the US, the wealthy and the poor. Today the wealthy realized that in 2025 the Presidential office and the Supreme Court can be bought and they can get their two tier system.

jeffrobertsky.bsky.social•37 days ago

It's interesting to note that there have been versions of Mandate for Leadership reaching back to Reagan. ("Project 2025" is based on the 9th edition).

It would be interesting if someone had the time to compare and contrast the goals and language over time.

mathworkswonders.bsky.social•36 days ago

I remember Ollie North and Bill Bar doing illegal crap. This clown is a phony.

makuatherton.bsky.social•36 days ago

That particular program, sure. But let's be real: the "mandate for an agenda" shit has been going on for WAY longer, in both political parties. A common reason we keep rotating presidents from both parties is because the party in power almost always overreaches.

hurricanexyz.bsky.social•37 days ago

The correct version of the point is that the seeds of Trumpism/fascism have been present within the Republican Party ever since, really, 1964

But yeah, they hadn't grown to full bloom until quite recently. Reagan sucked but he was pretty legitimately not fash; likewise Dubya

ondaiwai.bsky.social•37 days ago

The seeds of fascism have been present in American society since at least the 1930s (Lindbergh, etc), and you could probably go back to the founding of the slaver colonies really.

hurricanexyz.bsky.social•36 days ago

Yes, I'm of the view that they're older than the nation for sure

But they weren't localized to the Republican Party until '64

captainkirk00.bsky.social•37 days ago

Good point

captainkirk00.bsky.social•37 days ago

It’s not like fascism just falls out of the sky. There has to be a history or events leading a country down that road that we often want to avoid looking at because it’s troubling.

surcomplicated.bsky.social•37 days ago

Also, they had the opportunity to turn away from this madness, and more than once. Newt Gingrich is consistently underrated as a cause of our current problems--he hollowed out the Congressional GOP's ability to function as a counterweight to the more crazy elements of the party.

hurricanexyz.bsky.social•37 days ago

Yep that's a very important moment in the sequence

carynjrogers.bsky.social•37 days ago

I blame him for taking down the Office of Technology Assessment and thereby giving the anti-evidence trend some juice.

eubanksengineeringresearch.com•37 days ago

Contract On America

3rdandking.bsky.social•37 days ago

Who’s claiming all Rs have been fascists since Reagan? Maybe I’m out of touch

shamrock42.bsky.social•36 days ago

There is a fair amount of that around here. I'd point you to them, but I promptly block them.

makuatherton.bsky.social•36 days ago

You are out of touch. 😝

robod99.bsky.social•37 days ago

This over simplification of politics is why we are where we are. Call someone a Marxist/Fascist, you neither have to explain how their actions fit those definitions nor why it might be bad.

prchovanec.bsky.social•36 days ago

Except that used precisely, I think it currently fits. https://bsky.app/profile/prchovanec.bsky.social/post/3lbniqu3zcs2g

chrisarentz.bsky.social•36 days ago

The problem is that a some of the GOP was pretty fascist. The normies tolerated it and now the tail is wagging the dog. Normie Republicans can’t even win a primary anymore without behaving like a MAGA lunatic. The GOP allowed this to happen by courting these people.

makuatherton.bsky.social•36 days ago

This is true, and I do think it's important to keep note of. The problem is too many seem to do so only as part of their partisan political pissing matches, which only runs the risk of the same thing happening with the authoritarian sect of the Democrat Party.

osgo.bsky.social•37 days ago

Each side of the political spectrum is radicalizing more to help combat whatever transgression has occurred.

It's like two ladders in the shape of A-frame, with two opposing views soon to climb to the top.

There is no room for compromise at the top of the ladder.

kim65.bsky.social•36 days ago

Apples to apples, MAGA is like the Free Palestine Left.

Radicalization only matters if the radicals run the party, like MAGA runs the GOP. The Left just got launched into the sun for staying home or voting 3rd party.

silkscreenfiend.bsky.social•37 days ago

That said, the current party is engaged in active sabotage of this country, and whatever virtues some may have as individuals are drowned out by their participation in this evil project.

babykangaroo87.bsky.social•37 days ago

Reagan wanted to shoot unarmed protesters while governor of California.

makuatherton.bsky.social•36 days ago

No. The "unarmed protesters" had turned into a rioting mob that took over People's Park and already clashed violently with the local police. Reagan sent in the National Guard to stop what had already become a situation full of shooting. You sound like a Jan. 6 defender phrasing it like that. 😒

babykangaroo87.bsky.social•36 days ago

"If it takes a bloodbath, let's get it over with. No more appeasement." - Ronald Reagan

And the shooting was cops with shotguns loaded with buckshot.

makuatherton.bsky.social•36 days ago

"No MORE appeasement". As in, every peaceful recourse had already been exercised and failed. So yes, the National Guard's job is to do exactly what Reagan said, and liberate conquered territory.

Again, you're sounding like the MAGA people whining about how Ashli Babbitt was unarmed.

babykangaroo87.bsky.social•36 days ago

Comparing the People's Park Protests to January 6th is certainly a choice.

makuatherton.bsky.social•36 days ago

Given that it was a mob of violently entitled people who believed their cause allowed them to take over an area that didn't belong to them, and fought with police that were doing their job and played the victim afterward, yeah.

I take it you justify the recent insane Gaza War "protests" too. 😒

makuatherton.bsky.social•36 days ago

It's also hilarious when Reagan is put first in line, as though the previous two-term Republican president doesn't matter. The previous two-term Republican president in question:

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