Republicans don't get the blame now. Democrats get the blame now. All of this is now on Democrats, when they could have made the choice that would have allowed them to say it is on Republicans. Schumer(R) owns this now.
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"Let's not get in the way and Trump will defeat himself" has been the strategy for ten fucking years, and this is where that strategy has landed us. I don't know why you think the millionth time will be the charm.
The same fkin people who couldn't bring themselves to vote for Harris are the ones who are going to blame the Dems for the consequences of losing elections. I'm sick off it.
Oh yeah
I remember this when we lived in normal times
Trump breaks the law everyday
When he refuses to obey court order then what?
Schumer give another floor speech
We are over the Rubicon, lead the fight
A portrait in what passes for cent-corp-Dem courage. This is the feckless, 1990s politick that got us into this disaster. Just give the authoritarian fascists time. This’ll all work out in the end.
I wonder what would even be left of the government after if we shut it down.
Trumpmusk would probably fire another 100,000 people.
Lots of people pretend to know the obvious "better path" now.
I'm not convinced they know what they're talking about.
Mostly they just want to place blame and lash out.
How can you say democrats are to blame? Who has the majority in congress? Republicans. If every single democrat voted no on a crappy CR, it would not be enough to matter. The blame sits entirely upon Johnson and his ability to pass his lies about the CR. We are stuck with the least worst choice? Sad
The Republicans aren't trying to shut down gov. They're trying to destroy it little be little, but not shut it down. Dems would be the ones shutting it down to stop the Republicans. But make no mistake, Dems would own the shutdown.
The plan is to keep congress open so they can continue to prevent Trump by having complete power in the even of a shutdown. This is a "damned if you do and damned if you don't" scenario. It is better to pass the shitty spending bill than to let Trump seize full control of the government.
This isn't really that hard to message. Republicans are in charge. It's THEIR shutdown. If they need votes from Democrats, they need to WORK WITH Democrats. Otherwise, figure it out yourselves!!!
That's not the case. Dems would be soley responsible for filibustering the CR, and therefore not funding the gov. The Republicans would love nothing more.
You want to national narrative to be Democrats are why SS checks are not getting sent out? Because that's what it will be. The Reps would keep the gov shutdown for months knowing the Dems are getting blamed for it. And in the end, the Dems will have to agree to a shit bill anyway.
We should have been shaping the narrative instead of surrendering to it. We don't because of weak, cowardly, stupid leadership. But hey they won Dan over, so they have that
If they can't effectively message against what is happening it doesn't matter that they exist at all. They serve no purpose. Again, you won. America lost. It's over.
I don't accept your framing/premise, but assuming I did, what's your long-term strategy? After Dems agree to the current, shit-bill, what will be different next time??
Answer...Nothing. GOP will force feed them an even worse shit sandwich next time. It's a road to nowhere.
You're brain is buried in Senate procedure - just like too many Dems. Regular voters have ZERO idea how the filibuster works (supermajorities??) Ppl understand that the GOP is in charge AND they want politicians to "work together." but Ds suck at driving that message.
I don't actually agree with that - though I share your outrage. Dems don't agree with what the GOP is doing, but too many of them are terrified to fight back, for fear they'll be "blamed." As a result, they look weak and feckless.
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Fixed that for ya. No candidate is owed a vote. You earn 'em. Get it straight, lib.
I remember this when we lived in normal times
Trump breaks the law everyday
When he refuses to obey court order then what?
Schumer give another floor speech
We are over the Rubicon, lead the fight
Not cooperating with the Oligarchs
Primary all democrats.
Trumpmusk would probably fire another 100,000 people.
Lots of people pretend to know the obvious "better path" now.
I'm not convinced they know what they're talking about.
Mostly they just want to place blame and lash out.
Dems need to stop acting like hostages.
Answer...Nothing. GOP will force feed them an even worse shit sandwich next time. It's a road to nowhere.