Well I don't use Twitter but I get the joke. The KKK are the US "Leftists" and the Swaztika guy is Deutsch Antifaschistische. He kind of looks like a GSG 9 agent. At least I think that is the joke.
Hey dude, I’m from germany and the left here pivoted to the right a lot. They support Israel to a maximum, look up “anti-deutsche” who are pro israeli apartheid and anti anything Palestinian. You guys are being over dramatic tbh. Organize, be kind and get offline. You can’t take jokes!
Well then they aren’t leftists are they. Every one of his posts about the spectrum demonizes resists by equating them with fascists. Jokes or not, it’s bad form, there’s no context, and it tarnishes the image of those that are actually for the people and not corporations and government
The problem is they are pretending to be leftists, in regards to the anti-deutsche. And i think Kav is pretty much aiming at these charlatans who espouse progressive points but support the genocide in gaza. I immediately think of grifters like fetterman, these are the people he is criticizing
Thanks for clarifying. I’ve never seen this guy before (I’m new to Bluesky and never had Twitter). So his rhetoric went past me and he didn’t explain anything when I got upset.
So I mean there really aren't any real boots on the ground leftists in america. The actual irl organizing in the community leftists. We've been so captured by neoliberal ideology that what we call leftism is usually nothing more than virtue posting.
But I don't think the sentiment here is accurate
Once again with the infighting. What does this solve? Who does this help? What purpose does it have other than to alienate? This is shit I'd see from a faceless right-wing bot on Facebook.
3/ The talk had been on YouTube but is no longer available, alas.
Kaplan's point was that humor like that will always carry charge, in that it has the potential to spread the very ideas it's meant to lampoon. This is the inherent danger of this type of humor.
What censorship? I asked for the OP to reconsider. That's not censorship, my friend.
All things need to be weighed against costs and benefits. There is a distinct cost to describing leftists as Nazis, especially in this particular moment we're in that I previously described re: Musk & Weidel.
2/ You probably haven't heard of Merrill Kaplan. She's a folklorist. Some time ago, she gave a talk about online "humor" about folks not getting their George Soros checks. This was clearly a dig at those who believe anti-Semitic world control conspiracies, but some took those statements to be true.
I get that this is supposed to be edgy humor. My point is that those on the other edge will not recognize this as humor. (Kind of like how RW Americans though Stephen Colbert's stage persona on the Colbert Report was real.)
I literally was pilloried by someone here at Bluesky not 2 days ago who, after identifying himself aggressively as Jewish for some odd reason, said in the context of Elon's Nazi salute that Nazis -- '30s German Nazis -- were left-wing.
You think you're being funny, but there's a growing number of people who honestly believe that the Nazis were left-wing. This ironic humor will not be read as humor by those folks, who tend to be fascists themselves and look to blame Nazism on others. Same for anti-black racists.
Aaaaaanddddd crickets. That’s what I thought. You didn’t study history or international blah blah. Because no school teaches that any fascist ideal is left wing. Fascist governments label themselves as socialist to fool people and steal power. You’re disingenuous and uneducated
I think the complete subversion of "Whig Historiography", which is a main principle of the Neo-Reactionary (NRx)/Dark Enlightenment Movement, allows the inversion of the events preceding the Night of Long Knifes to use the term. Ernst Rohm, the Gregor Strasser Brothers, SA ect, which were called---
Which were called l, "The Left Wing of the Nazi Party" to justify the broad and incorrect statement that "Nazism is Leftist". I have encountered some of the most absurd far right Progandists recently. I have some ridiculous screenshot. Lol.
It's the 4chan "Anons" who preform literal Psyops on the MSM, which helps the modern Liberal Narrative. That Narrative if openly supportive of Corporatism, the Economic System of Fascism. Modern Corporatism, as a form of Hyper-Capitalism is much more dangerous due to modern technology.
There are even videos on YouTube that show this point by point. The situation in the US is EXTREMELY complex, and Post-Modern in the extreme. Using aspects of "Internet Absurdism", Meme Culture, Pop Culture, Pseudoscience, Psedohistory, Psedophilosophy, ect. It is not simple.
I agree with you. I believe with the correct context this is supposed to be interpreted as a critique of US/European left for upholding white supremacy in various ways, which is of course a real and serious problem. But in any other or broader context it looks like obfuscatory fascist propaganda
The US is in a very complex and difficult time currently. There is an organized but relatively small "Core" of right wing Influncers, Ideologues, Wedge-Issue propagandists, and most of all Trolls. Trolls on 4chan or "Anons" have cynically used organized Psyops to divide, even by "Ageism".
Something I do online is try to explain this phenomenon to people of all ages who are "out of touch", which I don't think is a proper description because it is obviously such a niche space wh we re this stuff happens. I have unfortunately noticed many US people over a certain age maybe 65
But I don't want to be arbitrary. I hate that whole concept of "OK Boomer", but there is a disconnect in these modern cynical online "political spaces".
So to get on with it,I try to explain the situation to as many as possible because the "anons" rely on mocking people for being taken in. Its sad
Not going to lie when I played this game and I was in this exact part in Roswell I was like holy fuck I know at least 30 individuals by proxy who would act just like all of these motherfuckers and I was sadded and disgusted cuz it's so fucking pathetic
I’m more talking about equating American “leftists” with the KKK? I mean, are people outside the US under the impression that American leftists and liberals are the same? Because if so, maybe go fuck yourselves? 🙃
Kav is displaying his superiority. He's so smart. He's is such a real leftist that he can sit on a pedestal and look down on us peons.
This is virtue signaling. He is making statements about America to platform his ego. Imagine trying to organize with this mindset. This is keyboard communism
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But I don't think the sentiment here is accurate
It's not sports teams. You don't have to defend your social/political brand.
Be a good person. Embrace the divisions inside and grow. Connect with people outside the internet.
https://www.npr.org/2025/01/10/nx-s1-5252473/elon-musk-germany-election-afd-candidate-alice-weidel
It does no one on the left any good to engage in this kind of humor. It will boomerang badly.
Kaplan's point was that humor like that will always carry charge, in that it has the potential to spread the very ideas it's meant to lampoon. This is the inherent danger of this type of humor.
That would be strengthing public education, critical thinking and media literacy, and holding exploiters to account.
Satire highlighting shitlib hypocrisy is a necessary form of truth to power.
All things need to be weighed against costs and benefits. There is a distinct cost to describing leftists as Nazis, especially in this particular moment we're in that I previously described re: Musk & Weidel.
How is it this person doesn't know this history?
Please stop.
You wanna clown on liberals, go ahead, but quit using “leftist” in your critique. Leftists didn’t tell the Harris campaign to ignore Gaza. But go off.
So to get on with it,I try to explain the situation to as many as possible because the "anons" rely on mocking people for being taken in. Its sad
This is virtue signaling. He is making statements about America to platform his ego. Imagine trying to organize with this mindset. This is keyboard communism