If I'm honest, I feel like this is bullshit people like to say to make themselves feel good (and feel superior) but isn't the actual reality. Who is the left in this scenario? If they are talking about US electoral politics this makes little sense - ThreadSky

thekavernacle.bsky.social • 27 days ago

If I'm honest, I feel like this is bullshit people like to say to make themselves feel good (and feel superior) but isn't the actual reality.

Who is the left in this scenario? If they are talking about US electoral politics this makes little sense

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thekavernacle.bsky.social•27 days ago

The Far-Right can consolidate power easily in a country like America because it's an oligarchy where both political parties serve the same masters and leftists are shamed into voting for the Genocide Party. Not because leftists are cancelling eachother because someone said NATO was good or something

chumley2.bsky.social•27 days ago

I think the original poster is using 'left' and means liberals.

Workers movements are out organised, the rich have class solidarity even if they hate each other personally.

This person sounds like an idiot.

catsronaught.bsky.social•26 days ago

Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds. If you give up fighting fascism, you give in. Dude sounds like a liberal

chumley2.bsky.social•26 days ago

Agreed. Liberals need to figure out leftists don't claim them. I see Liberalism as another right wing ideology.

catsronaught.bsky.social•26 days ago

Absolutely, American liberalism right of center at best, and full right-wing at worst.

gay-disaster.bsky.social•26 days ago

We didn't want perfect, we wanted not-genocide. Not a lot to ask for.

izaiahh.bsky.social•26 days ago

I agree with the OP. Liberals mostly, but we need to accept ignorance is the starting position, and we are all victims of social conditioning and propoganda. SOME Trump supporters are reachable. They've never heard a coherent lefist message outside of being wokescolded

suse-official.bsky.social•26 days ago

The OP hasn't considered the possibility that it's not "The Left" that is "consumed" with anything - but a figment of their imagination

earthcoin.bsky.social•26 days ago

there is no left organization in the US for a reason, its been subjected to active repression by the US government for over 70 years. i suspect people who unironically post this to fundamentally misunderstand liberal vs left. or think "im socially liberal and fiscally conservative so im left" lol

ogaerik.bsky.social•27 days ago

everybody who says this just wants you to accept a really fetishized bigotry they have. they want you to publicly give them an excuse to 'leave the left' and start that grifter career.

applechips.bsky.social•26 days ago

probably what he really means:

someone said something mean to him on the internet this one time.

rvbdrm.com•26 days ago

These imperfect candidates expect perfect voters…

nopasaran161.bsky.social•26 days ago

moderate capitalists !!

nutmegryan.bsky.social•27 days ago

The only people who speak this way are the ones whose brains are broken from spending way too much time on Twitter.

failed-state.bsky.social•26 days ago

Takes like these usually boil down to people claiming that being anti-genocide or anti-imperialist is somehow unrealistic. Like american leftists are petulant because we should be okay with voting for war criminals

twowrongs.bsky.social•26 days ago

‘accept’

marxistvalerie.bsky.social•26 days ago

Anarchist analysis being mids again?

de-sco.bsky.social•26 days ago

Ugh. The Right can consolidate easily is because they have millionaires and billionaires funding anyone willing to be capitalist and reactionary mascots, and entire institutions and branches of the government enabling them. Where for the left even being anti-Zionism has gotten people fired.

racatiwood.bsky.social•26 days ago

I can't not read that with Cenk's voice in my head

prem8uaprocrastn8a.bsky.social•27 days ago

Ikr, there hasnt been a leftist U.S govt 4 a century. They have 1 centre right party, & 1 far right fascist party. Yet they claim the issues undeniably caused by decades of right wing economic policy are because of a few centrist social policies, which they relabel "leftist", & ppl still believe it?

newscoulomb.bsky.social•26 days ago

American liberals use the term "not perfect" in place of "highly problematic."

jordan3097.bsky.social•16 days ago

Yes, we should be nicer to the authoritarian regime that wants to ethnically cleanse other nations, and conquer allied nations, and strip people of their rights. It's definitely a weird superiority thing--by people who refuse to rock the boat, because they'd have to actually do their jobs.

winterpancake.bsky.social•26 days ago

I just assume they're complaining about some 16 year old girl in tumblr in 2014 who had a bad take once and they still lie awake mad about

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