Probably because the CIA has spent the last 60 years infiltrating and dismantling any leftist organization and if they couldn't just fuckin killing people - ThreadSky | a Reddit-style client for Bluesky

voicesbyzane.bsky.social • 13 hours ago

Probably because the CIA has spent the last 60 years infiltrating and dismantling any leftist organization and if they couldn't just fuckin killing people

Reposted from G. Willow Wilson

Real q: why are modern American progressives so bad at building coalitions? The right wing is this ideologically incoherent hodge-podge of unrelated or even oppositional causes, yet they manage to work as a bloc. By contrast, liberals + leftists spend a huge amount of energy fighting w each other.

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shrikedan.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Hell even the supposed "Big Leftist Party" is doing everything in our power to try and still pacify the masses despite also now infamous for doing similar shit. This fucking government doesn't want change, IT WANTS ALL THE MONEY AND POWER IN THE WORLD AND NOW THEIR'S A MAN IN CHARGE TO FULFILL THAT!

shrikedan.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Like if their's one clip that perfectly represents how the U.S. Government actually sees any legitimate change, it would be this one: https://youtube.com/shorts/bowHrVvGZ9E?si=CQreUjD1CL9Znu8c

voicesbyzane.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Fuck off! Shut up! No we don't have problems consolidating! No we don't have purity tests! No we don't turn on fucking internet streamers! The government dedicates significant resources to ensuring that workers do not organize! Both parties do not want leftist action in this country!

morglea.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Them: The problem with leftists is they argue too much!
Me: Then what the fuck are YOU doing???

Fucking bootlickers.

voicesbyzane.bsky.social•12 hours ago

I mean hell did we forget the one time in recent history the democratic party actually moved quickly and decisively was making sure Bernie didn't pull the party left in 2016.

theanimationvoice.com•11 hours ago

The way the dems screwed Bernie was what made me abandon them.

schmaniel.bsky.social•9 hours ago

not just dems, there was also a concerted effort by media to silence, dismiss, and reduce his support

polling reports included biden in their surveys, despite him repeatedly and explicitly saying that he wasn't running

stardustneon.bsky.social•12 hours ago

And Super Tuesday in 2020 where most everyone pulled out suddenly and endorsed Biden?

voicesbyzane.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Like I am begging people to read about COINTELPRO and operation gladio. The government has spent years and massive amounts of resources to prevent any sort of leftist organizing from happening in this country. It's not because "leftists fight a lot."

voicesbyzane.bsky.social•12 hours ago

This isn't even conspiracy shit all of this is just like out there.

voicesbyzane.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Like I really can not exaggerate that every major system of power on this planet has dedicated itself to keeping people from organizing. Like do you think we did the cold war and it's brutal series of proxy conflicts because we were bored? Fucks sake.

voicesbyzane.bsky.social•12 hours ago

"Why can't the leftists organize" I don't know maybe because every major form of communication has been directly controlled by wealthy industrialists since fucking newspapers became a thing

voicesbyzane.bsky.social•12 hours ago

What fucking part of "the government fucking kills people" is so hard to get

mstrmustache55.bsky.social•12 hours ago

They have conversely made small cell organizing and action the wiser choice. Small cells don't do big movements, they do direct action to target threats directly and keep their mouths shut. We don't need clout or credit, we need action.

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cutts.bsky.social•11 hours ago

It also doesn't help people organizing that we live in a surveillance state that's invested trillions in spying on it's populace in the name of security.

The former head of the Stasi said his former employers would be envious of what the Five Eyes have accomplished in terms of sigint.

anthrodiva.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Rosebud.....

anthrodiva.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Read Wikipedia people!

delbertgseasons.bsky.social•9 hours ago

Also

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suibeom.bsky.social•10 hours ago

They didn't even stop the COINTELPRO shit after they got caught! They just contract it out instead! It's literally still happening!!

https://alphabetboys.xyz/#season-1

rohmersimpson.bsky.social•10 hours ago

I take every opportunity to recommend the podcasts Death is Just Around the Corner (Michael S. Judge) and Ghost Stories for the End of the World ("Matt"), they've done my head in good teaching me about this stuff.

jscram3254.bsky.social•9 hours ago

And on top of that, all that infiltration automatically leads to a sense of distrust. As a result, even if someone is genuinely with you, the moment something seems off, it’s easy for everyone to assume someone is working to undermine things from the inside.

energydrinklock.bsky.social•9 hours ago

And in other countries too.

upongoblinhill.bsky.social•12 hours ago

It's infuriating how every single person is blaming personal identity politics for the lefts lack of organized cohesion and not the very real gov. sabotage that's afflicted every org that bears the rose. Same with every serious large union.

cutts.bsky.social•12 hours ago

LtCol. Michael Aquino was involved in Project Gladio and invented the term "psyop".

Allegedly he was also involved in the Presidio and Franklin child abuse scandals.

He took a lead aspirin in 2019.

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voicesbyzane.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Why does he have dune mentat eyebrows

cutts.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Probably because he thought it made him look spooki.

Oooooo

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cutts.bsky.social•12 hours ago

I should probably point out that he was also a Satanic priest and started his own sect of Satanism called the Order of Set. He had a falling out with Anton LaVey at some point.

kelatonin.bsky.social•13 hours ago

THIS. and the fact that collecting capital and generating revenue are what guarantees success in this country, and a lot of leftist orgs aren’t about that (which is good, but unfortunately not for gaining traction in this broken system)

downthebastards.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Maybe also because many liberals are really right centrists and not politically aligned with progressive liberals or leftists at all?

nukboii.bsky.social•13 hours ago

also the fact that liberals love capitalism and pretty much no one else on the left does.

jack-a-dandy.bsky.social•9 hours ago

This.

pc2000s.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Pretty sure they were still infiltrating the Society of Friends during the Iraq war. You know, the Quaker organization that opposes violence in all forms. The people who refuse to raise a hand against another to defend themselves. The simple idea of peaceful individual liberty is a threat to them

agnosticnixie.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Cointelpro was the FBI

metaphysician.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Hey now...

Our robber barons deserve credit too.

tukenfarben.bsky.social•12 hours ago

The Black Panthers were treated like terrorists and the Proud Boys aren't. That's why the right can organize. It's not some secret.

annie.redpanda.fun•9 hours ago

I always think too about the fact that one of the things that really got the feds angry about the Panthers wasn't the guns or the speeches or the black berets ... it was the school lunches.

Nothing scares power more than the people realizing they can provide for each other without them.

talitherose.bsky.social•7 hours ago

Wise words

haqistan.net•7 hours ago

+1
I'm always reminded of the words "we know what the pigs don't like"

Yes, we do:
- school lunches
- medical care
- education
- any structure without a white overseer

gothedistance49.bsky.social•12 hours ago

FBI murdered Fred Hampton so absolutely correct.

tubbles.bsky.social•11 hours ago

It's of course muddled as hell, but they also very likely murdered MLK Jr. too. I wouldn't be surprised if they had a hand in Malcolm X's assassination too, since it seems like they knew a lot of people wanted him dead.

striderhlc.bsky.social•11 hours ago

I’m not a conspiracy theorist but a lot of Ferguson leaders have turned up dead under mysterious circumstances.

donch-eadle.bsky.social•10 hours ago

people need to read the jakarta method by vincent bevins

beallyoucanbop.hellthread.cc•8 hours ago

it came out a year or two before the pandemic that el hajj malik el shabazz's assassins were encouraged and protected by the FBI

dianecmurphy.bsky.social•9 hours ago

What I’ve read and understood about the Black Panthers: they were more educated people that were black. Also,coming from prejudice environment, they knew how to be stealth and function below notice. They have this advantage. Proud boys are loud,intimidating,predictable. Not educated

qrca.bsky.social•8 hours ago

Yep. Time and time again power protects itself and goes full bore after the groups agitating for change.

They make up scenarios and implant fear and suspicion in the populace to maintain control.

semiquaver.bsky.social•10 hours ago

funny that the initials of Proud Boys and Black Panthers are reversed

semiquaver.bsky.social•10 hours ago

thinking that we need to co-brand Left militias to confound demonization: Proud Boys Black-watch for the new Panthers...

nothingsmonstrd.bsky.social•8 hours ago

I'd throw money into the mix, too. Right wing radicals are happy to serve rich people's greed, so they have an easier time getting backers.

geordie6.bsky.social•7 hours ago

This right here

mathew1927.bsky.social•10 hours ago

KKK Police are are part of the 'right' team.

bz2.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Some of those that work forces.

kodakazar.bsky.social•9 hours ago

The Black Panthers dared to feed kids breakfast for free and the feds went and shot up some of their leaders(granted that was the FBI and not CIA, but still)

wboler.bsky.social•57 minutes ago

And a few other groups. Plus, lefties tend to have the bigger brains and always try to critique each other to death, and opos use this to drive a wedge between them.

waitescorner.bsky.social•6 hours ago

The left really was good at organizing at one point in American history I swear to you they were.

nearzone.bsky.social•10 hours ago

This shit makes me see red. They're living in a fantasy where the left organically failed, a thing that never happens. People who should absolutely know better!

mikecastoro.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Fair , but I think the real main thing is bc there’s no economic incentive behind a left movement so it’s much harder to grab sponsers and lobbiers and all the things that go w that

isakcoffee.bsky.social•9 hours ago

There’s no “economic incentive” for the *ruling class*.

Work security, free healthcare, free education, free public transportation and cheap rent is a great economic incentive. For the people.

It’ll be financed by billionaires’ dragon hordes.

Aaaaand there’s the class war.

mikecastoro.bsky.social•9 hours ago

Well yea lol we’re on the same page - no one refers to the economy being good or bad by the gaze of the average person only said class aforementioned

schmaniel.bsky.social•9 hours ago

there's loads of economic incentive in leftist ideas, universal healthcare and living wages increase productivity and save costs

what's lacking is a *power* incentive. they'd rather lose money than lose power

mikecastoro.bsky.social•9 hours ago

Totally right. See “the (height of the) pandemic “ and the wfh employee that gained thousands of dollars more a year and had way more free time. But the mega real estate portfolios ! lol Also legislation that was pro renters bc they were scared to have plebs out and about getting them ill/dead.

schmaniel.bsky.social•9 hours ago

i'll never forget the rush to reopen came right after the report that found Black people were disproportionately impacted by covid

mikecastoro.bsky.social•8 hours ago

Sounds right Idr the timing though - they’ll gladly walk over
bodies at any given time to check their stock portfolios