Not to people who are allergic. They actually give me great anxiety for that reason if I can't find an exit. I'm sure accommodations can be made, though.
Only if you can set aside rooms that are isolated so that those with dog allergies are not adversely affected. Better still, would be to improve access to hospice care so this isn't an issue. Rules are in place for good reason. Even when we don't understand those reasons.
Mom just wanted to go home and die with her cats. Nurse thought she was crazy. Mom got to die with her cats in home.
You can check yourself out against doctor's wishes.
Yes they could have a wheeled travel cage carrier and bring the Dog to the room. No worry of other patients or staff getting bit or touching the Dog. So no spread of disease!
As long as they are well trained, cleaned, & non-aggressive. Bring them in crates to protect those afraid of dogs. If this can be done without impacting others in need, then it’s probably OK.
I don't think people need to be dying. Conscious maybe, and out of ICU. Probably depends a lot on critter size & hospital environment. Handled with a mind to protect people who are allergic...
My wife will drag my dying, flat butt home so my dogs can lay all over me when I transition if they aren’t allowed wherever I may be. I want to transition with my fur-children near because they’ve been a source of tremendous joy to me.
They are better souls than almost every human I know. 😂
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I think I’ll just stay at home and die with my cockatoo. He is the most cognizant, loyal, empathetic and intelligent guy I know. Yes, our pets are the cornerstone of sanity in our fucked up world. Every dog, over my 67 years, has meant so much to me. Then came Elliott. It’s a bird thing.
I love dogs, I like people who love dogs and yes I would want my dog there, with me... but, some people are allergic and have a bad immune system, in hospitals, so also no. Maybe have a special room, for dog/pets visits? That could work?
Some hospitals allow cats....even though people are more allergic to cats then dogs. I'm technically allergic to both, however I can't be in a room with a cat without going into a full blown allergy attack.
Nah, they have all the necessary medical assistance. A person dying should be able to say goodbye to their pets. Allergies don't matter when it comes to Service Dogs, shouldn't in hospice care either.
Service dogs are trained and do not engage with their surroundings.
The reality is... and I get that it does not affect you... but there are risks. Social animals are petted. Their dander gets on nurses and attendants. If your child was at risk you would feel differently.
I grew up in a hospital, very ill, where therapy dogs were everywhere. I do not and will not feel differently. We are literally talking about Hospice. Not a regular hospital floor.
Have them meet in the garden, or have a designated pets room that doesn't require the pet to come through most of the hospital. There are ways to work it out.
If the dog can be brought in through a manner that isn't a distraction or disruption to other patients and staff then who cares. Hallways and other common hospital areas aren't sanitary since people walk in from outside.
Some actually do. Several years ago, a good friend and mentor of mine was in hospice care, as myself and my mother visited with her dog. It was a very surreal experience to day the least
Absolutely. People want to see their beloved pets and their pets definitely miss them. Pets also have a sense of what's going on. They can't speak but death and dying is not lost on them. They know goodbye and feel sadness like us. Say goodbye and let them do the same.
I’ve chased dogs up on the floors. And I have been called to remove them from a patients room. How they know where to go and where there person is is a mystery.
Does a dying but dog allergic patient in the next cubicle get a say
And does a Nurse on her way to a sterile Theatre have to pick up the dog poopy poops.
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My mother had and died from Alzheimers. In the last couple of years she was in an Alzheimers living facility. Big wide halls and gardens to wander. A happy wing and a violent wing.
On Thursday, local SPCA brought animals in for a couple of hours. Patients could hold and walk them.
When my time comes. If I'm in the hospital. Take me home. Let my dogs and horses see me. Let them see my body after so they know I didn't just vanish and leave them. Let them know they were loved.
If not at the hospital, animals should be allowed to see the body in the morgue. They definitely need closure, or they will wait and mourn being left behind. -E
I agree with you. Literally they are in the hospital and have probably been breathing with a service dog around. The dogs would be in the person's room. There is no real reason to deny something dying a comfort like that. They'll be fine.
I can see that but then again, you'd never be able to go in public places if it was such a problem. Wouldn't want to harm anyone but when I'm at the end of life, I'd really want to see my dog.
Thing is, if someone has an allergy to dogs which is so serious as to be life threatening, anywhere outside their home will be a hazard because dog owners bring their hair and dander and shed it around everywhere, even if you can't see it. Sit next to me and it'd be lethal already.
What do people think dying entails for most hospitalized patients? These people are intubated, ventilated, on multiple drips, have a tube in every orifice, and that's *before* we're pounding on their chest. There is no room for a dog. We're busy.
I’m in hospital at this moment, in Vancouver BC.
My dog is allowed in, welcomed even so I will see home tomorrow.
However, any rumours of my imminent passing are premature.
Not unhygienic- we allowed pets in our MICU- they don’t come in contact with anyone except their people - we also had many many therapy dogs that came through the hospital to interact with family members and staff to help with stress and trauma.
Maybe you aren’t a dog person, but old, sick people don’t die from a dog walking past their room, I don’t care how unhealthy they are. But people spread lethal shit all the time #Facts
You all have to be acting intentionally obtuse. Humans have a right to be in a hospital, and, within guidelines, visit their family. Somebody's random pitbull or housecat should not be brought into a high stress and high risk environment. There is no guarantee they won't bolt or bite someone else.
I'm not so sure. From what I can find 20-30 percent of patients in the US die in a critical care unit. That's not a good place to have animals. Were talking lots of immuno compromised people and oftentimes lots of Life sustaining equipment. It May work in some units with some
dogs. And no cats.
That would require some modifications for safety, but nothing any good hospital can't manage.
The real problem is drawing the line, because if you start with dogs, people are gonna ask for other pets to be allowed in, and some of them are really not fit to be in this kind of environment.
When I worked as an ICU nurse I a
his dog in thru the side door and slid him into the patient’s room! He passed 2 days later and was the happiest I had seen him!
As a RN in 1979, we use to have to sneak a beloved pet into patient’s rooms. Now, 45 years later, most hospitals and care facilities have procedures to allow that to happen (including for the homeless and their pets)!! Makes a huge difference for the patient, their significant others and staff!!
Not saying they don't. But 1. Do they know they died? 2. Would taking them to hospital have any significance to a dogs understanding?
I suspect it's no different to just disappearing one day...
I won’t claim to be a dog psychologist. As a hospice NP, I’ve witnessed dogs being present when a family member died. And, yes, there appears to be a response. The significance & interpretation is out of my purview.
They do grieve. My 2nd dog grieved my 1st dog after she passed for 2years. My vet came to our home and recommended that my 2nd dog be present during the passing so she would understand why her buddy wasn’t going to be home anymore. ❤️🩹🐾
So arrogant. D poor child thinks we r d only ones that can experience & express feelings.
Feelings r nothing more than a chemical reaction triggered by hormones and amino-acids in our body, specially our brain. If u truly believe animals don’t have feelings, we r in a worse place than I thought.
Bless you… someone did this for us when my partner’s mom was passing of cancer. It gave her the strength to fight to get home and die with her family in her favorite place in the world. It was so lovely and needed. ♥️
Some hospitals will. Our local Kaiser let us take our dog in when my dad was ill. Stanford Hospital let us bring our dog in while my daughter waited for a new heart.
OMG yes! If I should be dying, I would love to see them one last time. If I am already gone, I beg for someone to let them see and smell my dead body. Animals understand death, but they don’t understand you walking out the door and never coming back. They need to say goodbye in their own way.
It's tricky. I've encountered way too many poorly behaved dogs in the last decade. I wouldn't want them inside a hospital with sick and stressed-out patients. They can also be an infection risk.
What I'd rather see is more support for people to die comfortably at home with all their loved ones.
I agree. Everyone loves their pets dearly, but people have allergies, phobias, and even the most well trained dogs can be loud and disruptive to the healing process. It might help someone to have their dog there but it shouldn’t be at the cost of other people’s rest.
I've got 4 dogs myself and they're all my family members. They're not something to take for granted, but to be cherished for their loyalty, friendship, (and at times totally baffling behavior, lol), so yes... I very much agree with you.
I have spent years working in ICUs and post op brain surgery/cancer and i DID actually work in a place where dogs could come in( Not ICU). I even worked in a place which had a departmental dog and two cats
And cats. Most hospitals will allow this. I know my uncle had his cat sleeping on his chest for most of the last week of his life. My aunt brought Mokey in every day.
I once did a bedside consultation on a patient who ate the wrong mushrooms. Her dog also ate them and was allowed to share her hospital bed...Both survived
Cats, too. But the issue would be sanitation and people with pet allergies. That is why support for in-home care would be best as owners could die at home, with their furry loved one at their side.
While in hospice, a dog visited. It was determined to climb into bed with him, the gently laid beside him and remained for over an hour. Dad reached his arm around the dog and gently petted his head, smilimg gloriously. I swear it was his long-deceased dog come back to take him across.
They are welcome, with advance notice, here in WA. My sister-in-law's Corgi spent several days with her as she neared the end. He has a great comfort to her. I'm certain.
Not the same, but I just took my dog to the nursing home to visit my dad who was recently admitted, and she brought great joy to everyone in there. She will be a regular visitor!
You will never have a more devoted, protective and fearless companion than a Bully. You will also have no shoes, no bedding, no furniture and, after a while, no neighbours. What's not to love?
OUCH! Hope you're husband is ok! My mouth hurts looking at that. I had a Jack Russell named Lily who chipped my tooth when we were playing once. I didn't think such a small dog could pack a punch. She was very apologetic after.
Some people, even those who might be dying, just do not have a healthy relationship with their dog. I don't know how this can be policed but some fearful people get big dogs they haven't trained properly and these dogs are, at the least, disruptive. Dogs are the best, but some people let them down.
I totally agree, especially after seeing that dog crying over its owners grave....dogs have emotions and their loyalty is something humans need to learn.
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You can check yourself out against doctor's wishes.
They are better souls than almost every human I know. 😂
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The reality is... and I get that it does not affect you... but there are risks. Social animals are petted. Their dander gets on nurses and attendants. If your child was at risk you would feel differently.
Hospice is different.
Good idea, since it's has positive mental effects on the primary patient, but...
The pup must be UTD on shots, properly controlled, well behaved & leashed or harnessed.
Always ask
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And does a Nurse on her way to a sterile Theatre have to pick up the dog poopy poops.
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On Thursday, local SPCA brought animals in for a couple of hours. Patients could hold and walk them.
They loved it
The dying person should be able to choose where they pass, and with whom, but it shouldn't put others at risk.
Fixed.
The allergies are for the humans, some of which are on the verge of dying.
Let's try a dog tranq on the humans.
My dog is allowed in, welcomed even so I will see home tomorrow.
However, any rumours of my imminent passing are premature.
dogs. And no cats.
The real problem is drawing the line, because if you start with dogs, people are gonna ask for other pets to be allowed in, and some of them are really not fit to be in this kind of environment.
his dog in thru the side door and slid him into the patient’s room! He passed 2 days later and was the happiest I had seen him!
I suspect it's no different to just disappearing one day...
Feelings r nothing more than a chemical reaction triggered by hormones and amino-acids in our body, specially our brain. If u truly believe animals don’t have feelings, we r in a worse place than I thought.
That's giving dogs buttons to "talk."
Unless they're in the ICU I don't see why not as long as the dog is clean.
What I'd rather see is more support for people to die comfortably at home with all their loved ones.
Even then, im sure there's workarounds
House pets are the same as family, but, sometimes they’re better. All animals deserve the right to say goodbye to their humans!
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