A reminder from the past to ensure history doesn’t repeat itself: the Cuyahoga River caught fire over a dozen times, leading to change in 1969. Here is an overview of Trump’s reduction in clean water protections during his last term: (1/2) - ThreadSky

altnps.bsky.social • 106 days ago

A reminder from the past to ensure history doesn’t repeat itself: the Cuyahoga River caught fire over a dozen times, leading to change in 1969.

Here is an overview of Trump’s reduction in clean water protections during his last term: (1/2)

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ohio-lkm.bsky.social•106 days ago

Cuyahoga river - late 60s, I believe.

claw1030.bsky.social•106 days ago

Because people hear trump say, “we want clean water, we want clean air” they think he means it. We’ve become a nation of non thinking bumper sticker slogan voters.

carolhager3.bsky.social•105 days ago

There are currently otters living in the Cuyahoga River Valley. Otters. If that isn’t a success story, I don’t know what else to say. The Cuyahoga Valley National Park is a gem.

paddyonpolitics.bsky.social•106 days ago

If my local river catches fire? I might just say it’s been a good life and jump in because damn

endvm.bsky.social•106 days ago

I’m with you Bro

paddyonpolitics.bsky.social•106 days ago

jahangiri.us•105 days ago

That's what they WANT you to do, so no, you can't.

stan-or-loretta.bsky.social•106 days ago

A preview of deregulation.

altnps.bsky.social•106 days ago

(3/3)
- Limiting State Authority Under the Clean Water Act: Restricted states’ ability to block energy projects, reducing local water quality control.
- Relaxation of Lead and Copper Regulations: Slowed efforts to replace lead service lines, prolonging potential lead exposure.

groundwaterstu.bsky.social•100 days ago

With @neorsd.bsky.social and other committed partners in the #Cuyahoga watershed they're "not going back" - and these rivers are resilient given a chance. Much less "help" for our Mahoning across the divide, but very encouraging. Care for your local watershed, engage the stakeholders.

realsandy.bsky.social•105 days ago

It's too late. We are doomed by MAGAts.

stephanitaavl.bsky.social•106 days ago

Resist!

esqueue.bsky.social•105 days ago

Because lead in our water (and air from leaded gas in the day) couldn't possibly be a contributing factor to the mass stupidity we see, right? Right?

c0nc0rdance.bsky.social•106 days ago

Not a criticism! Is the photo used from the 1969 fire, or the 1952 fire? Smithsonian suggests this is the 1952 event, and that the 1969 was so brief that photojournalists didn't have time to capture a good photo.

I just learning more about the MANY fires that happened.

neorsd.org•105 days ago

this photo is from 1952, you’re correct. the 1969 fire might have been one of the smallest in the Cuyahoga’s river-fire history and no images of it exist.

c0nc0rdance.bsky.social•105 days ago

Thank you! A useful visual, but helpful not to muddy the waters too much with incorrect historical attributions.

definitelymaybeno.bsky.social•105 days ago

WKYC has one (image 3)
https://www.wkyc.com/gallery/news/photos-cuyahoga-river-before-during-and-after-1969-fire/95-451256984

neorsd.org•105 days ago

appears to be an incorrect attribution. we included that image in a 2022 story and it appears that image from CSU’s digital archives is from
1948. https://neorsd.medium.com/history-burning-river-makes-for-a-great-story-comeback-makes-for-a-greater-future-30ec04df9f09

tom.medsky.social•105 days ago

The smallest was probably this one in 2020:

neorsd.org•105 days ago

this one comes up a lot since then and we typically don’t count it but perhaps we should. the fire actually sparked on the road surface after an auto accident, igniting spilled fuel in the storm sewer hitting the river.

farmhousechic.bsky.social•106 days ago

And yet RFKJR is complaining about stuff in the water.🤔

maggiemay57.bsky.social•106 days ago

Yeah, well he's not what you'd call a critical thinker.

farmhousechic.bsky.social•106 days ago

Worm power!🪱

dtackeye.bsky.social•105 days ago

and yet, most river fishermen and pleasure boaters voted for him.

gruntledscientist.bsky.social•106 days ago

It’s taken 55 years to reach this point. Old timers described it as burbling like a thin tomato sauce. I’ll be damned to let it go back.

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/12/nx-s1-5123532/cuyahoga-river-cleanup-sturgeon-cleveland-ohio

gruntledscientist.bsky.social•106 days ago

Also appointing 2 more Justices that overturned the Chevron doctrine. That is perhaps the worst of all.

maggiemay57.bsky.social•106 days ago

Wow...so much states rights. Douche bags.

chasingdawn5683.bsky.social•106 days ago

Meanwhile it’s clear why he’s appointed Zeldin… gotta make 1st Lady Elonia happy

https://www.wknofm.org/2024-11-15/regional-power-authority-approves-request-for-musks-memphis-ai-supercomputer-project

altnps.bsky.social•106 days ago

(2/3)
- Repeal of Clean Water Rule (WOTUS): Removed protections for smaller streams and wetlands, increasing pollution risks.
- Overturning Stream Protection Rule: Allowed coal mining debris to pollute waterways by rolling back regulations.

gm1950.bsky.social•105 days ago

Alt NPS —We have a lot in common —we your help and want to help NPS. We need NPS resisters to join us at the Environmental Protection Network https://www.environmentalprotectionnetwork.org/

bsu2024.bsky.social•106 days ago

Smaller streams and wetlands discharge pollutant loads to other waters. In FLA, Tally punts on cleanup and shifts it to local/county governments. Locals struggle to provide services. Tally refuses to provide resources needed to keep our waters clean, usable, and free of hazardous algal blooms.

naturelover59.bsky.social•106 days ago

And there were lots of dead fish floating and covering the beaches at Lake Erie.

marimin91.bsky.social•106 days ago

coconinoite.bsky.social•106 days ago

I’m loving the pingu gif!

dbnishi.bsky.social•106 days ago

I used this as evidence with my 9th graders while discussing the right to access clean water.

pdc23.bsky.social•106 days ago

😡

deb6377.bsky.social•106 days ago

😳😞

guyonabike.bsky.social•106 days ago

This is what happens when a president eliminates the regulations in place to protect our natural resources. It's disheartening to say the least.

gamedaywreath.bsky.social•106 days ago

I'm old enough to remember this

theshutteredroom.bsky.social•106 days ago

And it baffles the shit out of me why Chrissie Hynde is a Trumper.....

franterest26.bsky.social•106 days ago

Ohhhhh!! So THATS why DNC didn’t play her Ohio during roll call!

mrldragon.bsky.social•106 days ago

What?!?!

theshutteredroom.bsky.social•106 days ago

During Trump's presidency, she wrote an open letter to Trump, praising him for honoring Rush Limbaugh.

aimeeu2.bsky.social•105 days ago

Isn't she transphobic as well?

theshutteredroom.bsky.social•105 days ago

I believe so. She said she finds "the whole gender thing" annoying.

anakaye.bsky.social•106 days ago

Well, fck.

islandofreil.bsky.social•106 days ago

Kinda not surprised. She's a longtime PETA supporter. That group has *serious* issues with bigotry.

xsfool.bsky.social•105 days ago

Maybe...she is pretending?

mondakwe.bsky.social•105 days ago

Beyond disappointing 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔😭😭😭😭

weimarunner.bsky.social•105 days ago

Seriously? Ugh, that’s soooo disappointing.

aquavibe.bsky.social•104 days ago

Guess we can file her away with Roseanne now.

debeckert2.bsky.social•106 days ago

I remember this well. Was a young kid when we would go swimming in Lake Erie and come out covered in green gunk. Our parents didn’t give it a thought about what it was. Remember the fires too

sgtsue.bsky.social•106 days ago

Aww my youth. Lake Erie became so polluted all fish were inedible and beaches were closed. Do you know how big Lake Erie is? There wasn’t much in NE Ohio that wasn’t polluted.

suebeedefender.bsky.social•105 days ago

I lived outside Louisville KY when the Ohio experienced a fish kill the same week I watched Soylent Green at the drive-in and it blew my mind turning me into 70s green activist.

tlmac.bsky.social•106 days ago

Same goes for Buffalo.

anakaye.bsky.social•106 days ago

Yep. I grew up in Chautauqua County and everyone knew Lake Erie was a hot mess.

itsamini1.bsky.social•105 days ago

Louisiana too we are the nations toilet everything east of the continental divide drains though here

glitterandsnark.bsky.social•105 days ago

I live by the lake on the eastern edge of CLE and we still get all kinds of plastic and garbage washing up because people are gross assholes. And sometimes have to deal with algae from farm runoff. But it's so much better now. The beaches are rarely closed and folks do eat the fish.

factsnotfiction.bsky.social•105 days ago

Elon musk really wants to dump a bunch of what are in the colorado river in texas

elizemme.bsky.social•106 days ago

According to the altnationalpark X account, this account is an imposter

jaeger1957.bsky.social•104 days ago

According to @altNPS, they have killed their X account.

brutalkimpact.bsky.social•106 days ago

Pretty sure it's not an imposter..

beakerless.bsky.social•106 days ago

I’ve seen a smaller waterway burn it was horrifying.

mjgreenland.bsky.social•104 days ago

Many still joke about the burning river, but now people kayak and pleasureboat where that fire took place. I walk along it regularly. And downriver, the Cuyahoga Valley is now a national park. Keep fighting the good fight.

brad-burton.bsky.social•103 days ago

I remember being unable to wade in the river by our house. Then the EPA was passed. I live beside a national lake shore that is in the process of converting back to "wilderness" The eagles have returned. Wolves can be heard moving through the area.Things can get better.

kelso129.bsky.social•106 days ago

I grew up near the Hudson River and remember the yellow/brown smog when we looked across to NYC. I now live in RI and you can swim in Narragansett Bay. You couldn't do that in the 70s.

sjsweeney.bsky.social•106 days ago

Cleveland is my hometown and anytime I mention that to someone new, most often they query, “Isn’t that the place where the river caught on fire?”

glitterandsnark.bsky.social•105 days ago

I live in CLE now and it's like clockwork.

sjsweeney.bsky.social•105 days ago

Lol people say, isn’t that the place that lit their river on fire?

carlakay.bsky.social•106 days ago

I live in Pittsburgh. No way I want to go back to the "good old days" when you couldn't seen the sun.
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mjrcc.bsky.social•106 days ago

I once lived upstate NY on the Hudson my neighbors said in the ‘70s they watched toilet paper float by and knew what color paper the local mills were producing by the tint of the water.

elkridge.bsky.social•106 days ago

🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

elkridge.bsky.social•106 days ago

🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

annie1234.bsky.social•106 days ago

The thing is- some of these idiots who promote things like abolishing the EPA- have no recollection of what it was like before the clean air and water act because they weren’t even born yet- so they haven’t experienced first hand to know how horrible it was without these regulations.

wellsycreates.bsky.social•106 days ago

I mean, it only takes five minutes to do a quick internet education on why environmental protections are not a bad thing. In historically significant events that lead to the creation of the EPA and so on. People who don’t know, don’t want to know. That’s a pretty established theme now.

recklessbeading.bsky.social•106 days ago

Ah yes. "Burn On, Big River." I still remember when Randy Newman came out with that song- it was so embarrassing.

thiafin.bsky.social•105 days ago

😪

wench-ciara.bsky.social•106 days ago

I remember watching this on the news. I don't want to go back to filthy air and water.

endvm.bsky.social•106 days ago

😡😡😡😡

thingstoshea.bsky.social•106 days ago

fun fact: this isn't a photo of the 1969 fire. this pic is from 1953. there's only a photo of the fire boat from 1969.
check out the progress since 1969 at https://neorsd.org/riverreborn

credac55.bsky.social•105 days ago

Consider supporting

voiceinwilderness.bsky.social•105 days ago

History does not repeat itself. History is repeated by those who have not learned it, learned from it, apply lessons to the present, and are steadfastly refusing to do so. So much easier just to believe whatever the orange god (Golden calf) says.

stupidshouldhurt.bsky.social•106 days ago

It’s sad that those voters care so little about their own survival, let alone everything else’s.

anygirl99.bsky.social•105 days ago

skyhoglet.bsky.social•106 days ago

I'm always surprised at how many people don't know that a river was once so polluted it kept catching on fire. When people talk about rolling back environmental protections, I wonder if they're aware of this. Acid rain, lead paint, and the hole in the ozone also.

skyhoglet.bsky.social•106 days ago

Asbestos, radon, pfas, and the many times that mine waste has spilled out and polluted local watersheds or even washed away entire towns.....

jemiaj.bsky.social•104 days ago

In Los Angeles schools, we had to have recess indoors because of smog. My eyes & chest burned all the time. We're not really supposed to see air, but ours was always visible because it was brown. Amber- brown air.

awinita.bsky.social•106 days ago

https://youtu.be/XVNuT4fkjAs

bjpease.bsky.social•105 days ago

Ouch!

shieldedsoul77.bsky.social•86 days ago

Bingo!

lakelivingpa.bsky.social•105 days ago

📌

sheilarsully.bsky.social•104 days ago

I remember the Connecticut River catching fire.

lobsternanny.bsky.social•106 days ago

I lived through that. But with the current drought across the US, clean water or any water may just be wishful thinking without emergent fossil fuel use stoppage globally.

thevail.bsky.social•105 days ago

@steelshanks.bsky.social

iconoclasticdick.bsky.social•106 days ago

They ended up making a great IPA, though.

anakaye.bsky.social•106 days ago

And now it's discontinued except in the brewpub itself.

anakaye.bsky.social•106 days ago

(actually a pale ale, not an IPA)

jaeger1957.bsky.social•104 days ago

Not an alcohol user, but I thought IPA was India Pale Ale. What am I missing?

anakaye.bsky.social•104 days ago

Pale Ale and India Pale Ale are not the same style. IPA is a hoppier style than just pale ale. (I'm a brewer, been brewing beer as a hobby since 2007, and drinking craft beer since the late 1980s.)

iconoclasticdick.bsky.social•104 days ago

Nothing, really. As a recovering malted beverage snob you might find pale ales a little less hoppy and slightly lower abv.
There is considerable crossover and the beer we referenced, Burning River, is VERY hoppy and has a sold abv of 6% I believe.

anakaye.bsky.social•104 days ago

IPA isn't necessarily higher ABV than regular pale ales. Their overall range is higher, but the ranges overlap considerably. (Though if you want something with a real kick and not so much in the hops department, I make a killer Wee Heavy Scotch Ale.)

orchidchick.bsky.social•106 days ago

I lived in Ohio when this happened.

mgakemp.bsky.social•105 days ago

Went to Cuyahoga river 3 years ago. It was beautiful. I’m sure it will become polluted again.

debhowesnh.bsky.social•106 days ago

We all need clean water to drink and clean air to breathe!!!

jahangiri.us•105 days ago

Nestlé will corner the market in the last of our and sell it to you in tiny, non-biodegradable (but cute!) little bottles at premium prices.

But little deformed eggs will be cheap.

clarenceawilliams.bsky.social•106 days ago

What are we supposed to do about it other than petition our local and state officials to use whatever authority they have to ensure clean water?

onwardttf.bsky.social•106 days ago

This was one of many events that led to the passage of the National Environmental Protection Act.

realshrimeypibbles.bsky.social•106 days ago

Learned about this in my 8th grade chemistry class when I was a kid. It was filled with toxic materials that were highly combustible. My own kids are in 11th and 8th grade and have never even heard about it. And my son is in a pre-AICE environmental science class. Very sad.

walterwilliams.bsky.social•106 days ago

Cool. Really looking forward to the YOLO approach to environmental protection.

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