A win! Thank you to everyone who spoke out! After facing bipartisan resistance, the Senate Parliamentarian, ruled that Sen. Mike Lee’s proposal to sell off millions of acres of federal land cannot be included under reconciliation rules.
Comments
Log in with your Bluesky account to leave a comment
Thank God!!! What the bleep is wrong with these senators? The land belongs to all of us. So many amazing places in this country that are irreplaceable.
Mike Lee is saying he'll alter his amendment to the big ugly bill. He's trying to fool everyone into thinking selling our public lands is about creating affordable housing. Everyone knows that's a lie except the Senators.
The reality is the techbros want our public lands to create "Freedom Cities"
My only problem is that he said that “as written.”
Mikey will find another way. So don’t stop. If they can make a profit you can bet it will come again!
They can't pass it as a stand-alone bill because it requires 60 votes on cloture they don't have. Many of the policy portions of BBB have been quashed as violating Senate rules. BBB requires only a majority. Now they can't do ANY of it. Dems worked w Parliamentarian and won!
The current parliamentarian has held the job since 2012. She was appointed by Harry Reid. If they fire her, as majority leader, it will be up to Thune to appoint a replacement. It will be hard to find someone with the same qualifications and experience.
Very true. But the rules are public, and Dems will find or hire staffers to ferret things out. The Parliamentarian just does it more easily. She is familiar w them all. But firing her doesn't stop the rules. They'd be stupid to do that. She found rules FOR the GOP. They are SO dumb!
The idiocy is that she has abetted GOP efforts using rules. The rules exist, are findable, not usually obscure, and ANYONE can do it; she just does it faster. That's why the office has existed since 1935, the less formal position since 1904. It's a help to whoever needs it. BUT anyone can do it.
It would be a massive problem. The office was official in 1935 but had less formally existed since 1904. They really have no grounds for removal of the operation, so the foolishness of trying would be disastrous. It wouldn't change the outcome of bill requirements, just no voice in advance.
The Parliamentarian as a human being tends to come up with the same findings. There have been people appointed by both parties who vex and annoy their own over those rules. They might remove her, but anyone qualified (there IS that) would find the same things. Dems could find them via staff.
This is the job ONLY they can do; we can't. And it is absolute resistance! They quashed the parts giving Trump immunity from the courts, too. Who else was going to do this? Not whiners. Just Dems in the Senate. Far more important than marching or pontificating about oligarchs.
I would agree. After 237 years of accumulated, changed, discarded, amended rules, anyone who can keep tabs and hold the Senate to a true course is a genius in my book! Dems love her! MAGA? No. No coincidence her office, more than most, got heavily trashed J. 6.
LOL! Thank you! I do pretty much everything to use that handle ironically. I care a lot for the liberal, progressive faith community and have NO truck with cristofascists. Don't care what anyone believes so long as they are good people. Hope that comes across.
Yes there are solutions or rewards up the kazoo you could offer her. Not knowing her needs, I started with a common one. If you want to add more options, that’s up to you.
That depends on the value of her actions as much as mine. And how our intent might meet in the middle. Id rather not talk in hypotheticals with such a wide ranging topic and I don't know enough of her to be specific enough to really think this all out. It was really just a suggestion lol.
MAGA can't pass any of the legislation requiring 60 votes to pass cloture. Why they put so much into the BBB? It can pass as a bill w simple majority. Dems worked w Parliamentarian to stop it. Now MAGA is screwed on many points empowering Trump. THAT is what Dems did.
The Land belongs to every citizen and not just the Reps. They no longer speak for their constituents. They speak for their Corporate and Billionaire donors.
Mike Lee is saying he'll alter his amendment to the big ugly bill. He's trying to fool everyone into thinking selling our public lands is about creating affordable housing. Everyone knows that's a lie except the Senators.
The reality is the techbros want our public lands to create "Freedom Cities"
Call your senators today. Mike Lee is pushing a new amendment to the big ugly bill to sell 1 million acres of public lands for "Freedom Zones" in an attempt to convince Congress it's for affordable housing In reality the public land is for the rich to use for unregulated experiments in technology.
Here are 2 links to help understand freedom cities versus (and?) network states.
https://www.vcinfodocs.com/what-is-the-network-state (other docs are available on that site explaining some of the risks and dangers of these network states becoming more entrenched than some already are.
And for freedom cities:
The Freedom Cities and Freedom Zones are named that to try to get maga on board for the sale of public lands. Mike Lee just introduced a new public lands sale for Freedom Zones near urban areas for his sham "affordable" housing scam. Please get the word out.
That’s exactly the plan. JRvarsity is an investor in AcreTrader and they’ve been buying farmland, even from some of the farmers who are folding because of tariffs
Call your senators today. Mike Lee is pushing a new amendment to the big ugly bill to sell 1 million acres of public lands for "Freedom Zones" in an attempt to convince Congress it's for affordable housing In reality the public land is for the rich to use for unregulated experiments in technology.
Call your senators today. Mike Lee is pushing a new amendment to the big ugly bill to sell 1 million acres of public lands for "Freedom Zones" in an attempt to convince Congress it's for affordable housing In reality the public land is for the rich to use for unregulated experiments in technology.
BEWARE: They want to build homes for millionaires in rural areas near parks (they can’t sell parks) and extract
they are
Good to know what they are trying to do.
I’m sharing a couple maps I made with info on this rape of Mother Earth 🌎 IMO
There is nothing good about it.
This big ugly bill is falling apart & that's good. The provision stopping judges from holding the administration in contempt was removed. Keep up the calling!! 💗
Hooray! I was afraid all of the conservation organizations I support were going to have to sue the administration, and we all know how long that takes to be effective. I know they won't give up on this, but I hope they know the people don't want this and won't tolerate the government's attempts.
Still trust them...NOT! We have to remain ever vigilant to the ever-corrupt intent to those who wish to harm our country...for whatever reasons they have. Is all about bowing down or is about making more and more money? Whatever drives them..their ultimate reasons are corrupt & treasonous!
A win for our parks, land and more important the wildlife, habitats and biomes which are so fragile and already thrown off balance by our encroachment and growth; the people who enjoy and respect the environment and the wildlife that lives within it can all breathe a collective sigh of relief.
Please sweet Jesus let this be true. Please PLEASE LET THIS BE TRUE. I’ll give up my health care to protect my sacred lands. I’m soulless without my wilderness. It is my Cathedral. My church as a spiritual person. I’m willing to sacrifice my life to preserve these sacred places.
No they can't. Long explanation of why, but they can't. The sections giving Trump immunity from the courts? Also killed. Other blocks on policy that MAGA tried to hide in the budget bill.
Disagree. The parliamentarian's ruling is advisory and may be overruled on a proposed reconciliation bill with 60 votes. Unlikely that would happen, but it is a procedure that is available.
Well, that's not exactly true, and it's all been removed, so enjoy your skepticism and doomscrolling. You kind of miss your OWN point of needing 60 votes they DO NOT HAVE. That is the ONE remaining power we have over them. Fuckin' USED it. Slam and dunk by the Dems.
No, I said it’s unlikely they would get 60 votes, but I properly responded that there is a mechanism to accomplish it. Like there is a mechanism to remove 47, but no political will. Accuracy is not doomscrolling.
There is NO mechanism to get Dems to join in cloture on policies they just had terminated. There is political will on the part of Dems to impeach but NO VOTES. How you conflate these things as 'acts of will' is bizarre. Structural walls exist and are real, not fantasy.
Let's hope Congress listens to her. There are a lot of items that she believes are unlawful. I hope lawsuits are already being drawn up if they ignore her and pass this bill.
Praise the Lord we have a win. Those mag pies wouldn't know how to enjoy a win if it smacked them in the face. They are so busy trying to shit on everyone they aren't thinking straight, when Trump gets everything he wants he will shit on them. He won't need them for anything so out the door they go.
I love that rich people really need to stop buying our farmland. That the food industry is already colonized why the one percent as it is. People like Jeff Bezos need to stop buying farmland.
There was a big high wall there
that tried to stop me.
The sign was painted,
said: 'Private Property.'
But on the backside,
it didn't say nothing.
This land was made for you and me.
Have you heard this one from Woody Guthrie? It’s about the RUMF‘s’s dad. Woody wrote it in 1957 but he never made it into a song and some really great people made it into a song and I think there is a link on his website here. YouTube,
Lyrics here.
Only HOURS LEFT
THESE ARE REP CONGRESS-MEMBERS w/MILITARY BACKGROUND
The switchboards are open 24/7. Leave msgs until answering machines are full and call again tomorrow
TELL THEM THEY ARE VOTING AGAINST HUNGRY VETERANS AND VETERAN CHILDREN on SNAP
WE HAVE ALL NIGHT
🌟🌟🌟CALL 202 224-3121🌟🌟🌟
Only HOURS LEFT
THESE ARE REP CONGRESS-MEMBERS w/MILITARY BACKGROUND
The switchboards are open 24/7. Leave msgs until answering machines are full and call again tomorrow
TELL THEM THEY ARE VOTING AGAINST HUNGRY VETERANS AND VETERAN CHILDREN on SNAP
WE HAVE ALL NIGHT
🌟🌟🌟CALL 202 224-3121🌟🌟🌟
I was glad to see this. I did read he was going to come up with another proposal. In Queen Creek, AZ where I live there are many available homes for sale, also in Surprise where my son lives and more being built. They do not need our public lands for this.
Mike Lee is saying he'll alter his amendment to the big ugly bill The reality is the techbros want our public lands to create "Freedom Cities" Google it and please let your senators know about Freedom Cities. 47 wants 10 of them. None of the Senators aides I've called have heard about Freedom Cities
Thank you. I had read about these a couple of years ago and of course had forgotten. I will call again. I called today and gave an earful about our public lands. Ruben Gallego has said he is fighting for the preservation of our public lands. Thanks for the reminder about Freedom cities.
Call your senators today. Mike Lee is pushing a new amendment to the big ugly bill to sell 1 million acres of public lands for "Freedom Zones" in an attempt to convince Congress it's for affordable housing In reality the public land is for the rich to use for unregulated experiments in technology.
I have called and will call again. I spoke with someone at my MAGA congressman's office yesterday about just this. He actually lives in my community so when I mentioned the plethora of housing options, new builds, old builds all up for sale and many of them he knew what I was talking about.
Thank you. Please call again today. They may vote as soon as tomorrow. This is about Freedom zones for the techbro oligarchs. This article is full of excellent information about why they are a terrible idea. https://www.vcinfodocs.com/what-is-the-network-state
The Big Ugly Bill must be stopped altogether! Senators vote NO or give up your jobs. If congress has no power over the president then why do we need you?
That is JUST what the Dems accomplished along with the Parliamentarian. They found all the policy issues illegitimately put into the bill and killed them. THAT IS THEIR JOB AND THEY DID IT. Killing other things is on our voices, constant reminder WE vote, and they need to watch out.
They haven’t stopped it all together. They will negotiate a horrible agreement and take some things out and we will still be fucked. It is the democratic way unfortunately
There is no “negotiation” on a piece of legislation that is this far along. Are you aware it takes 50 votes? Republicans have 53. So don’t try & blame democrats. They’ve been fighting this for weeks. Hours of amendment hearings. Democrats doing so well with The Byrd rule makes a huge difference
And fyi.. every democrat has already said they’d vote no. That won’t stop the bill. Republicans then have to negotiate with House republicans. It’s all on republicans
They seriously do not get to restore what the Senate just got kicked out, so those policy irregularities can't be put back. What will be negotiated is budgeting, and with so many in both houses fearful of their constituents being angry at cuts, it will be very interesting.
How do you know? Experts in legislative process know the policy stuff has been largely quashed esp. the parts discussed here. How do you KNOW it's all a fraud? No, it's NOT the "democratic way". Can't stop the budget issues. Can remove policy changes. Done and gone.
Mike Lee is saying he'll alter his amendment to the big ugly bill. He's trying to fool everyone into thinking selling our public lands is about creating affordable housing. Everyone knows that's a lie except the Senators.
The reality is the techbros want our public lands to create "Freedom Cities"
Call your senators today. Mike Lee is pushing a new amendment to the big ugly bill to sell 1 million acres of public lands for "Freedom Zones" in an attempt to convince Congress it's for affordable housing In reality the public land is for the rich to use for unregulated experiments in technology.
Lots of info on the Freedom cities. Just a quick Google away. They're already trying to get the old Alameda site in California and even writing sample Executive Orders they want 47 to sign. They've also already had meetings in DC and are bragging about how receptive 47 is to the idea.
Just about as dumb as it gets. You would think hunters and conservationists would be screaming like hell. Even the NRA. But no. Just the dumb and blind kids are Americans. His name was Tommy I think
That’s wonderful news!
My family has visited practically every National Park in the country, even one that hasn’t been built yet throughout my childhood, throughout my daughter’s childhood and now she is doing the same with her children every summer!
This is just one victory. Mike Lee and his ilk are far from done. For decades Republicans have been salivating over Federal land and parks, wanting to privatize them so only the rich can profit from and/enjoy them.
We got you. Now we all know how it feels when rhe government trys to take our land. Perhaps a little more sympathy for our Indian friends is in order. We'll stand behind them too!
Mike Lee is saying he'll alter his amendment to the big ugly bill. He's trying to fool everyone into thinking selling our public lands is about creating affordable housing. Everyone knows that's a lie except the Senators.
The reality is the techbros want our public lands to create "Freedom Cities"
I'm not American but the thought of desecrating such beautiful landscapes sickened me. Sen. Lee and the regime epitomise one of the very reason natures' treasures are vitally integral to society. When evil roams the earth in the guise of human beings such unparalleled beauty affirms the world 1/
BUT he IS trying again with a pared-down version that will "only" include BLM land within 5 miles of a population. This will impact the Wasatch Front in Utah, the land where we hike, birdwatch, run, ride horses, walk our dogs. This is land that is in an earthquake zone, too. KEEP CALLING. DON'T STOP
Mike is saying he'll alter his amendment to the big ugly bill to try to more easily fool everyone into thinking selling our public lands is about creating affordable housing. Everyone knows that's a lie except the Senators
The reality is the techbros want our public lands to create "Freedom Cities"
Call your senators today. Mike Lee is pushing a new amendment to the big ugly bill to sell 1 million acres of public lands for "Freedom Zones" in an attempt to convince Congress it's for affordable housing In reality the public land is for the rich to use for unregulated experiments in technology.
Yeah, "Affordable housing". 'Affordable' means riffraff like us could purchase them. Republicans don't want the peasants to have anything - not vaccines, nor healthcare, not even drinkable water or breathable air. Now all of a sudden they want to start help house people?
I call bullshit.
Call your senators today. Mike Lee is pushing a new amendment to the big ugly bill to sell 1 million acres of public lands for "Freedom Zones" in an attempt to convince Congress it's for affordable housing In reality the public land is for the rich to use for unregulated experiments in technology.
Mike Lee is trying to fool everyone into thinking selling our public lands is about creating affordable housing. Everyone knows that's a lie except the Senators.
The reality is the techbros want our public lands to create "Freedom Cities". Google it...no way do we want Freedom Cities.
Exactly. It's a COMPLETE lie. I live very close to one of the areas on this map. it is bordered by mansions and elite, gated communities. "Affordable" is just part of the big lie.
Is this the same Mike Lee who basically celebrated a democratic senator being assassinated? If so, this dude is just straight trash. He also has zero respect for veterans and officers as displayed in his reaction to hearing 9/11 stories. He’s gross.
They didn’t observe anything Jesus did as something they should do too. Not sure where that disconnect is but listening to the word of Jesus is supposed to make you act like him.
Yeah right.. Trump will just write another executive order to do it and the do nothing complicit republicans won’t stop it. Or they will take it immediately after and pass it. I’m certain Trumps received too many bitcoin bribes already for the ownership and destruction of our protected lands.
I don’t know if your assessment is correct. The articles as written might not have met the standards required. I think it has to be specific. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
Comments
I love our beautiful federal lands. I used to take them for granted, but never again ❤️ Go U.S.A.!!!!!!
The reality is the techbros want our public lands to create "Freedom Cities"
Mikey will find another way. So don’t stop. If they can make a profit you can bet it will come again!
land but about the flora and animals.
National Parks are maybe the greatest treasure of this country.
A slice of the miracle of Mother Earth that we can bath our souls in from time to time. Owned by all of us. Preserved for generations.
I love the National Parks. I teared up Olympic Hoh Rain forest & North Cascade.
Let's hope it sticks
The reality is the techbros want our public lands to create "Freedom Cities"
https://www.vcinfodocs.com/what-is-the-network-state (other docs are available on that site explaining some of the risks and dangers of these network states becoming more entrenched than some already are.
And for freedom cities:
https://www.fieldandstream.com/stories/conservation/public-lands-and-waters/10-ways-to-kill-mike-lees-land-grab
they are
Good to know what they are trying to do.
I’m sharing a couple maps I made with info on this rape of Mother Earth 🌎 IMO
There is nothing good about it.
Those corrupt, low rent grifters want to sell off our land and our birthright.
It’s just disgusting.
Finally, something went the right way.
I keep my head on a f🤬cking swivel
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/23/climate/trump-end-protections-for-58-million-acres-of-national-forests.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Rk8.r7QX.5ocJ-Zr76a0N&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
How f🤬cking GREEDY can these f🤬cking people be?? I despise them.
Every. Last. One. Of. Them.
We will never get that back, once it’s gone.
Wild lands are me and I am them.
A Democrat would have been rail roaded out the day he did the deed!
Will take every when we can get and this is a big one!
Mikie Jr (not the big Mikie) still pledges to seek this another way.
Further, the MAGAts have a reputation for lying. Don’t stop!!
We’ll see.
https://resist.bot/petitions/PUOMQL
https://youtu.be/wxiMrvDbq3s
There was a big high wall there
that tried to stop me.
The sign was painted,
said: 'Private Property.'
But on the backside,
it didn't say nothing.
This land was made for you and me.
Lyrics here.
https://woodyguthrie.org/Lyrics/Old_Man_Trump.htm
I also don’t think he could get 50 votes in his party.
THESE ARE REP CONGRESS-MEMBERS w/MILITARY BACKGROUND
The switchboards are open 24/7. Leave msgs until answering machines are full and call again tomorrow
TELL THEM THEY ARE VOTING AGAINST HUNGRY VETERANS AND VETERAN CHILDREN on SNAP
WE HAVE ALL NIGHT
🌟🌟🌟CALL 202 224-3121🌟🌟🌟
THESE ARE REP CONGRESS-MEMBERS w/MILITARY BACKGROUND
The switchboards are open 24/7. Leave msgs until answering machines are full and call again tomorrow
TELL THEM THEY ARE VOTING AGAINST HUNGRY VETERANS AND VETERAN CHILDREN on SNAP
WE HAVE ALL NIGHT
🌟🌟🌟CALL 202 224-3121🌟🌟🌟
🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
https://www.vcinfodocs.com/what-is-the-network-state
It is not Mike Lees terra to sell.
Asking for a friend.
The reality is the techbros want our public lands to create "Freedom Cities"
Elizabeth MacDonough
OFFICE OF THE SENATE PARLIAMENTARIAN UNITED STATES SENATE
Address S-133 U.S. Capitol
Washington
DC 20510-0001
Telephone (202) 224-1299
-Senators Risch and Crapo from Idaho
-Steve Daines from Montana
https://www.newsweek.com/republican-split-federal-land-selloff-2089441
My family has visited practically every National Park in the country, even one that hasn’t been built yet throughout my childhood, throughout my daughter’s childhood and now she is doing the same with her children every summer!
The reality is the techbros want our public lands to create "Freedom Cities"
The reality is the techbros want our public lands to create "Freedom Cities"
I call bullshit.
The reality is the techbros want our public lands to create "Freedom Cities". Google it...no way do we want Freedom Cities.
Maybe it wouldn’t do a thing to impeach him again, but let’s make a statement folks!!
I guess they are afraid of MAGA.
Reposting to keep track.