Ya I get that & it makes sense. What I mean is TFT's playerbase evolves over time and Riot's decisions impact that evolution. If 51% of players like variance & 49% of players don't, and Riot adds more variance into TFT, maybe they gain&retain more players that like variance & lose players that don't - ThreadSky

purpleporing.bsky.social • 3 days ago

Ya I get that & it makes sense. What I mean is TFT's playerbase evolves over time and Riot's decisions impact that evolution. If 51% of players like variance & 49% of players don't, and Riot adds more variance into TFT, maybe they gain&retain more players that like variance & lose players that don't

Comments

purpleporing.bsky.social•3 days ago

so the next time they take a look at the player base, maybe it's become 55% of players who like variance and 45% of players who don't. and so "hey, most people want variance!" and so they push more variance in again and it becomes 60/40 next time. and so on...

laurenwu.bsky.social•3 days ago

It may be more than that.

A shift only in preference for variance isn't that interesting. A shift that comes along with a meaningful increase in the player base... That's something worth investigating.

I don't think more points of variance is bad. When a single point (and early one)

laurenwu.bsky.social•3 days ago

can greatly influence the outcome of the game without much (perceived) counter play... I don't like that.

If I wanted a deterministic game I'd play chess!

Having said that I understand why some people feel like TFT variance takes away player agency. Maybe it's just not the game for them.

purpleporing.bsky.social•3 days ago

Ya I use variance as a very broad shorthand given character limits and it being a much more nuanced discussion than one concept (for example, your points)

I view variance on a scale. Chess being 1 out of 10. TFT was never a 1 as far as I played & that's a good thing. But it has increased over time

purpleporing.bsky.social•3 days ago

And your last point is partly mine too, if for example TFT is no longer a game for me and I quit, that's 1 fewer player on the anti-wandering golem side of things and thus the % shifts, ever so slightly, towards an overall preference for wandering golems!

laurenwu.bsky.social•3 days ago

You and Ramblinnn are notable players who publicly talk about this!

rainbowmeowy.bsky.social•3 days ago

I think most who dislike the afforementioned level of variance don't want a full on deterministic game (nor would chess feed the craving these sorts of video games hit, unless the person was just looking for something to win at rather than a game w/chars they like or any other thing that brought

rainbowmeowy.bsky.social•3 days ago

them specifically to TFT. Which isn't really the majority of gamers on the whole.) It's just the level of disparity between what some and others get is occassionally a bit extreme, and that's the issue most I know who dislike it have. Reskinned chess-esque is not the desire (& themed chess exists.)

rainbowmeowy.bsky.social•3 days ago

Personally, winning mattered to me less when there wasn't the risk of getting flashbanged into a migraine episode upon loss. :p Winning itself still dosn't matter to me much, lasting long enough to cook (trainers) is nice, which isn't as doable if someone has the perfect set. Thus disparity concern.

Comments

Posting Rules

Reply