wow twitch just made their worst decision in literal years Hi! Highlights are how a lot of World Records are stored! Unless you plan on reaching out to EVERY SINGLE WR HOLDER OF EVERY VIDEOGAME firmly cut this shit out. also hey! Some streamers have died! You're deleting their public grave! - ThreadSky

tietuesday.bsky.social • 3 days ago

wow twitch just made their worst decision in literal years

Hi! Highlights are how a lot of World Records are stored! Unless you plan on reaching out to EVERY SINGLE WR HOLDER OF EVERY VIDEOGAME firmly cut this shit out.

also hey! Some streamers have died! You're deleting their public grave!

Comments

djalphaomega.bsky.social•2 days ago

I've got some downloading to do... Happy that I also record my streams ever since getting 1tb external hard drive last year for the purpose of download & editing.

cublet.bsky.social•3 days ago

Sorry but is owned by a shit corporation and so what do you expect they don’t fucking care they just want to engagement with using as little storage as possible

punchystream.bsky.social•3 days ago

lol what brazen cheapskates

fionathefox.bsky.social•3 days ago

seriously! this just deletes people like everhate completely away, there is no reason for it other then capitalism.

shortiepieren.bsky.social•3 days ago

Nope according to salts on this app twitch can do NO wrong and are virtuous and saints.

solar-espeon.bsky.social•3 days ago

https://twitch.uservoice.com/forums/928429-channel-page/suggestions/49496519-do-not-implement-100-hour-limit-for-highlights-and someone else in the comments already linked a uservoice but i had already made one too! hopefully they both gain traction and eventually get merged for visibility

purexcure.bsky.social•3 days ago

This is interesting considering the likelihood that the .5% are among the most watched

boganjesus.bsky.social•3 days ago

I mean twitch is Amazon...... you expect good things somehow?

sazh50.bsky.social•3 days ago

Yuck. There's a reason I deleted my twitch.

I don't like YouTube either but it's the best I got for my streaming rn, this nonsense is beyond gross

mylinuxrig.bsky.social•3 days ago

well i guess this is what happens when u expect a platform to do everything for u and dont have any backups

lenna.gay•3 days ago

Yeah this is a horrendous idea. If you’re gonna provide the main service for a community, and you have Amazon money, it’d behoove you to pretend to care *at least a little* and make the occasional concessions that don’t benefit your bottom line, but who am I kidding this is Amazon.

kurokomix.bsky.social•3 days ago

afaik... despite being owned by Amazon they get basically zero actual funding from Amazon and are expected to run completely on their own which... kinda raises the question of why they're owned by Amazon.

corrodias.bsky.social•2 days ago

Well, it is sensible that Amazon wants the Twitch service to be at least marginally profitable, rather than a drain. But if 0.5% of active users have exceeded this limit, that undermines the argument that there's a problem that actually needs solving here.

kurokomix.bsky.social•2 days ago

Either they're massively understating that figure - nearly every streamer I know is over the limit - or that 0.5% is so massively over the limit that it is a problem. With how many streamers there *are*, 0.5% is still a lot, and some of the people I've seen have thousands of hours of highlights

lenna.gay•3 days ago

I mean yeah, was just gonna say, that’s even worse! Though I’m still curious on how much say they take in general from them. Will have to do some research there.

casstone.bsky.social•3 days ago

They're owned by Amazon so they cannot look at competitors or their own hardware for processing power or bandwidth. It does explain a lot about how the platform is optimized.

kitrolkuma.bsky.social•2 days ago

personally i kinda understand this because twitch must be paying an insane amount for the storage they have and id rather them do this then force more ads or some other form of bs that effects all content. definitely sucks and could be better but it defintely could be worse knowing twitch's past bs

lobuttomize.bsky.social•3 days ago

Video storage is incredibly expensive, so it's probably hard to avoid. Need to download and store your own highlights and stuff

moosebones.bsky.social•3 days ago

If only they could make a deal with AWS to help facilitate this. Oh well I guess no one at Twitch has connections.

lobuttomize.bsky.social•3 days ago

Amazon would still be taking the loss

jpofferz.bsky.social•2 days ago

And?

moosebones.bsky.social•3 days ago

Yeah no shit LOL. People acting like "actually this makes sense from a business perspective" are missing the point: plenty of unbelievably shitty decisions throughout history have made sense through a capitalist lens.

karashammy.bsky.social•2 days ago

Amazon also has more yearly income than the GDP of some countries. >_>

belthesar.com•3 days ago

@textfiles.com is there a good pipeline to activate Archive Team to help out with this that you can recommend?

textfiles.com•2 days ago

This is not a good use of archive team.

gnomebitten.bsky.social•3 days ago

lmao

saramaburwani.bsky.social•3 days ago

what are they gonna do it’s not like they have a parent company that has more cloud data storage than god

kobayashimaruu.bsky.social•3 days ago

but they don't want to because that doesn't make line go up 😔

lmnisop.bsky.social•3 days ago

Yeah but they need that storage for generating emails for lazy office workers and pictures of cartoon characters with a big bust and seven fingers on each hand

scottofastora.bsky.social•3 days ago

Is.... Twitch okay?

wanderingnewbie.bsky.social•3 days ago

Jesus Christ what the fuck.

rexaura888.bsky.social•3 days ago

Guess Twitch is trying to play catch-up with their step sibling Washington Post with bad decisions motivated by blatant censorship and erasing history.

samuriadi.bsky.social•3 days ago

start archiving the runs befor this clears them out

savagesquirrel.bsky.social•3 days ago

Bezo's owns Twitch...who knows why he'd order additional space requirements in the form of a purge 🤔

coxymelody.bsky.social•2 days ago

every gd website would rather spit on digital gravesites than just listen to people and upgrade infrastructure. Digital Archival is dying too rapidly for us to keep up with saving it and I am sooooo tired I'm so tired!!!

slio9.bsky.social•3 days ago

Hey What The Fuck.

lesleypro04.bsky.social•2 days ago

I think we should all speak out about this because this decision is really fucking stupid.

ashezth.bsky.social•3 days ago

There is a uservoice about it.

https://twitch.uservoice.com/forums/933812-safety/suggestions/49496279-please-don-t-implement-the-highlight-storage-limit

heygreenguy.bsky.social•3 days ago

Supported, for all the good it'll do.

coral.trans.army•3 days ago

This.
Is.
So.
Gross.

drakonis.monster•3 days ago

oh this shit is so ass

azuli.bsky.social•3 days ago

if it was ass, it'd be good.

Rancid is what it is.

highwang.bsky.social•3 days ago

Ah cool, I love having a decade of history and entertainment blinked out of existence. What the hell.

wintersky.bsky.social•2 days ago

Well, yes, that is the problem with trusting other people beholden to profit expectations with your storage.

colorprinter.bsky.social•3 days ago

They said on twitter that "Highlights haven't been effective for viewer discovery" and my dude, that's because your system for displaying VODs has been fucking dog ass for years lmfao

mellopanther.bsky.social•3 days ago

Unless "not effective for viewer discovery" is code for "not effective at generating ad revenue," I think their stated reason is back-justification if not completely made up.

gmestanley.bsky.social•3 days ago

thinking about how youtube cut community contributions, a very useful ACCESSIBILITY feature that millions used, because it was "not being used enough"

mellopanther.bsky.social•3 days ago

Like my two tinfoil hat theories are:

-Amazon wants use the server space for AWS or whatever pay-for-storage business instead & this is cheaper than buying more servers/facilities

-Someone wants Twitch dead but can't right now so they're slowly crippling it to make it easier to kill later

colorprinter.bsky.social•3 days ago

hell, on mobile it's basically half-broken. no search or filtering, it doesn't even let you scroll through all of them

and clicking "view all" on Highlights brings up Past Broadcasts instead, a bug that has been present on at least the Android version for literal months

guineaduke.bsky.social•3 days ago

I gave up on the mobile app, it is just completely nonfunctional at this point

saturn0000.bsky.social•3 days ago

it is SO GODDAMN ANNOYING just looking at clips at all

actualcastle.bsky.social•3 days ago

I want to make sure I understand this correctly.

Past Broadcasts/VODs are still safe, but anything that you manually Upload or set as a Highlight get deleted.

And even then, you still have to back up past VODs before they're deleted for 7 days [14 days if you're an Affiliate, 60 days for Partner].

izagar.bsky.social•3 days ago

I'm glad I stored most of mine on Youtube but holy fuck this makes me NOT wanna stream more and not bother with Twitch. Because it takes me time to fix VODs for Youtube. ;o;

wobblypython.bsky.social•3 days ago

At a certain point they're gonna' carve out so much utility from the site, Youtube will be the better streaming platform.

tbaggingsince1990.bsky.social•3 days ago

Unfortunately Youtube needs to overhaul and redesign their livestream page and make it more noticeable and accessible on the main page.. Literally the reason why Youtube is dead for me when it comes to streaming personally, and why I won't watch them either.

teddyras.bsky.social•3 days ago

if youtube ever figures out how to make livestreams that get less than 10k viewers have any sort of discoverability, then yeah it's so over. also if they ever make their chat better. their player is better and by extension the vod saving, and larger userbase.

wobblypython.bsky.social•3 days ago

Honestly, I switched platforms a while back during the hate raids shit and everyone who was actually plugged in showed up for me. It worked fine.

I also simply don't know a single person who doesn't have a youtube account.

gmestanley.bsky.social•3 days ago

Vinesauce *does* have YouTube channels, but the two main streamers Vinny and Joel upload VODs to there separately. I haven't heard of them streaming to YouTube in however many years by now. I have once seen a full stream get uploaded to YT but not have a bit at the end preserved

wobblypython.bsky.social•3 days ago

Okay.