I'll be that guy for a second, but is it just me or do these ArtFight account by non-artists who ask for art of just their fursonas/vtubers/etc come off as leeches who just want free art to use?
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Either to get free art of their Fursona or to get art for an adopt to sell for a higher price.
I've seen a few who just follow 1.000 accounts got some nice art but didn't Attack a single person (and probably never planned to)
Yeeeah, there's some who follow 58396300503 accounts, with LOL-MEME profiles, get hundreds of attacks by goodwilling people and never attack or revenge a single one.
ALSO, OMG I DIDNT EVEN CONSIDER THE ADOPT THING FGSJFKSK
Yeah, its not always easy to prove, especially if they claim its an oc and still sell it later. Cant do much about it then.
Yeah, I think a lot pf people are drawn in by the prospect of free art instead of drawing for others. There will always be assholes.
Gotta make the best out of it.
I'm so mindboggled about the adopt thing, I cant π₯²
And yeah, there's always people who like draw 1 thing and ask for their following to give em lots of free shit, but these guys are a whole new level of leech
Oh that's crusty... The whole point of art fight is to do art...
I usually make an effort to make sure those folks drew for others at least, but yeesh!
Yeah, same, I usually do not attack accounts that didnt deliver anything yet or have abysmal ratios (like receiving 100+ and giving less than 10).
Especially if its people who found the time to upload 328392 ocs, yet they claim they have no time to draw - but take the free art anyway.
Not cool
That really seems like it yeah, I did AF just once last year and with my friends so it was quite chill. And it was basically art trades since we were all artists. If those non artists don't offer anything in return to anyone, it's a bit suspicious.
Ho sure, if there's a design you like, it's always nice to draw something and it makes the person's day. But yeah, it's best to be a bit careful and see if they're just asking free art and don't give anything.
oh absolutely. It wa smy first year in AF last year but I could tell that a lot of folk were REALLY pushing tog et art of their characters for free and then....just, didnt apprechiate it if it didnt hit their criteria of aesthetic-
YES, that too β I was lucky so far, but some of my friends had cases where they didnt even hear a thank you back, I guess cuz the person didnt like the style and didnt appreciate the effort.
I basically did lots of tiny artworks for lots of character designs that I found and liked and...a lot of people didnt even acknowledge it bc my art (which tbh is rather cartoony) didnt fit their aesthetic. If you exchange art with other artists however - difference as night and day!
Yeah, I dont understand it β the least you can do is a "thank you".
Even if an artwork doesnt fit your personal aesthetic, its important to acknowledge that they took some of their time to draw you something. People are so entitled sometimes.
it is weird tbh :') It made me feel pretty self consious in my art as well. I still decided to join again this year, if I can, tho bc I really enjoyed drawing new and different characters, it felt like revitalizing my skills. And if it only makes 1 of 5 people happy...thats okay!
That sucks it made you feel that way, just cuz some people are being entitled jerks : /
I'm the same, I will defo focus on some attacks this year and trying to keep some good vibes.
Yeah, thats the thing - just watch AF if you dont wanna draw.
Its not even a skill issue. Its fine if you aren't a good artist but at least TRY to give back.
But some people just try to be cute or guilt-trip you into drawing for them, when irl they just dont wanna pay an artist
Yeah; I'm always afraid it comes off as whining I won't be revenged, but it's really just that I'd rather attack people who are participating. There's no rules that art needs to be "good" to post, either, so it feels extra sad they don't try to give anything back to the community at all :(
YES, thats the thing. No one expects you to be a freaking DaVinci, but the least you could do is draw SOMETHING back. Worse, some don't even say thank you or anything.
I kinda wish you could report such leech accounts in some way.
Oh, I personally never joined AF due to my schedule, I amazed to know that this is open for non- artists as well, still curious if they would draw something for joining, wanting without giving back is actually so terrible π
I hope no one is facing that type of person.
I actually don't know if its "open" for non artists. Like, I guess no rule explicitly states that you gotta be an artist (thatd hard to enforce/check), but the name/themes strongly imply it, since its an art TRADING game π¬
So going there as a non artist is scummy af
I'll be that guy with you; there's so many accounts looking for adoptable art to sell off that I wanna pull aside and tell "this event is not for you, my dude".
In years past I'd attack via "random character" but now I have to dig through accts else find my drawings for sale on TH the next day v_v
I'm always so jelly of AF every year bcuz it seems so fun but I'm not fast enough to be able to attack back so like. i just don't participate lol. anything else would be selfish!!!!
(goodluck to everyone btw, I hope you have a fun AF!)
I personally think its fine to enter as long as someone actively participates in any way.
But there's people who really just want free art and deliver nothing.
I think that goes against the spirit of the event yeah, might even be reportable? (And I know the adopt thing is definitely against the rules somewhere)
I'm honestly not sure if it goes against the rules and its hard to prove in some case.
Like sometimes you see a big artist joining, saying they wont have time to draw, yet found the time to upload all of their ocs and want art. That also seems a bit iffy imo. Like either you join or you dont.
Maybe itβs more just, a given. That youβre supposed draw things for people when you join this event haha.
And yeah, I know what you mean about the big artists thingβ¦
I tend to devote my whole month to it, not everyone needs to do that, but, you should at least have the intention of participating!
Horrid :C I honestly only get to see the frustrating side of it. One of the main reasons I don't participate. A friend always does, draws awesome attacks, never gets revenge back or attacked in the first place, bummed me out real hard, remember drawing them something afterwards to cheer them up.
Aww, that sucks D: I'm sorry to hear!
My experience was pretty positive overall so far, I admit. I'm just very careful with who I'm attacking/i make sure they are active/no leech/have their own art posted.
Overall AF is pretty fun, but you defo have to avoid a specific kind of user there.
Oh, also all that aside, I wish you all a super fun time I don't want to be all doom and gloom. I think the core idea is really nice and I hope everyone participating gets something out of itπ
Its fine : ) It sucks when you get the short end of the stick, its fine to complain.
AF isnt perfect, but it can be a lot of fun if you keep your expectations reasonable
I'm sure its a balance of finding not TOO popular artists to attack, obviously they cannot attack back everyone, but I'm sure my friend went with smaller artists and all in all there is never a guarantee you get any art at all even when you attack countless times. It feels more like gambling :(
However I do sorta "precheck" the people I attack:
I check if they are active, how their ratio is, i follow (if they follow back i guess that means they like my art), comment to see if they even respond at all
Its not a gurantee but at least so far I at least got a thank you from everyone I drew for
I guess it is a gamble to begin with. I usually go into AF with no expectations about revenging/getting art. I usually am more of an attacker than revenger to begin with (people often dont revenge me either, its fine - but I also sometimes get random attacks)
I'm mostly there to draw cool designs.
Yeah I can definately see some people trying to "game the system" like that.
This will be my first Artfight where will try to participate, so I am not sure about how common those accounts are.
I have never heard of this, and frankly that's kind of horrific... Like I know there are some big name artists that only do like 5 attacks and get a 100, but I never would've thought there's non-artists that join... That's so scummy.
Guess it's good I'm picky with who I attack..
Yeeah, the big name thing is kinda ugh too. I totally get it that they can't revenge anyone or might not do revenges at all.
It gets scummy when they have the time to put all of their oc on AF/promote their account, yet not give anything back. That screams DRAW ME FREE STUFF CUZ UR MY FOLLOWERS!
Yup exactly! I get it too, but man when they go around promoting it everywhere it really raises some eyebrows.
At the very least they could write thank yous, that doesn't take long, but I've seen so many not even do that. It's really sad.
I'm glad there's plenty of people who aren't like that.
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I've seen a few who just follow 1.000 accounts got some nice art but didn't Attack a single person (and probably never planned to)
ALSO, OMG I DIDNT EVEN CONSIDER THE ADOPT THING FGSJFKSK
It sucks; thatβs not what the month is aboutβ¦
Yeah, I think a lot pf people are drawn in by the prospect of free art instead of drawing for others. There will always be assholes.
Gotta make the best out of it.
It really stinks but my version is now not to engage with people I expect this to be happening.
And yeah, there's always people who like draw 1 thing and ask for their following to give em lots of free shit, but these guys are a whole new level of leech
I usually make an effort to make sure those folks drew for others at least, but yeesh!
Especially if its people who found the time to upload 328392 ocs, yet they claim they have no time to draw - but take the free art anyway.
Not cool
I dunno why it bothers me so much , but it does!!
Just leeching free art isnt cool.
I do like attacking random people, so I get to draw designs I just like, but I think I'll be even more careful this year.
Like, give the people at least some wonky doodles back to show u care.
Even if an artwork doesnt fit your personal aesthetic, its important to acknowledge that they took some of their time to draw you something. People are so entitled sometimes.
I'm the same, I will defo focus on some attacks this year and trying to keep some good vibes.
like.. people, please, artfight is an art trade game. you're supposed to draw things too!!
it's fine to be just a non-artist spectator, but if you join a team you are kind of expected to do art yknow
Its not even a skill issue. Its fine if you aren't a good artist but at least TRY to give back.
But some people just try to be cute or guilt-trip you into drawing for them, when irl they just dont wanna pay an artist
I kinda wish you could report such leech accounts in some way.
I hope no one is facing that type of person.
So going there as a non artist is scummy af
In years past I'd attack via "random character" but now I have to dig through accts else find my drawings for sale on TH the next day v_v
(goodluck to everyone btw, I hope you have a fun AF!)
But there's people who really just want free art and deliver nothing.
Like sometimes you see a big artist joining, saying they wont have time to draw, yet found the time to upload all of their ocs and want art. That also seems a bit iffy imo. Like either you join or you dont.
And yeah, I know what you mean about the big artists thingβ¦
I tend to devote my whole month to it, not everyone needs to do that, but, you should at least have the intention of participating!
I guess if nothing else we should all collectively not attack people who are clearly not doing anything.
My experience was pretty positive overall so far, I admit. I'm just very careful with who I'm attacking/i make sure they are active/no leech/have their own art posted.
Overall AF is pretty fun, but you defo have to avoid a specific kind of user there.
AF isnt perfect, but it can be a lot of fun if you keep your expectations reasonable
I check if they are active, how their ratio is, i follow (if they follow back i guess that means they like my art), comment to see if they even respond at all
Its not a gurantee but at least so far I at least got a thank you from everyone I drew for
I'm mostly there to draw cool designs.
This will be my first Artfight where will try to participate, so I am not sure about how common those accounts are.
Also, yay! i hope youll have a fun experience! :D
Guess it's good I'm picky with who I attack..
It gets scummy when they have the time to put all of their oc on AF/promote their account, yet not give anything back. That screams DRAW ME FREE STUFF CUZ UR MY FOLLOWERS!
At the very least they could write thank yous, that doesn't take long, but I've seen so many not even do that. It's really sad.
I'm glad there's plenty of people who aren't like that.