True. But sexual and dark doesn’t necessarily imply sexual assault. Fight Club movie is sexual and dark, but doesn’t feature an immediate cases of sexual assault. Just sex in addition to the psychological horror and violence. The two concepts can coexist without overlapping after all. 😊 - ThreadSky

wolfsrahne28.bsky.social • 14 days ago

True. But sexual and dark doesn’t necessarily imply sexual assault. Fight Club movie is sexual and dark, but doesn’t feature an immediate cases of sexual assault. Just sex in addition to the psychological horror and violence. The two concepts can coexist without overlapping after all. 😊

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thatzachreacts.bsky.social•14 days ago

Okay but This isn't fight club.

And there's no standard set way that media handles the subjects.

If it doesn't work for you, that's valid, but also that is a YOU problem. Not the fault of any Creator who didn't personally consult with you first, which is what this always sounds like.

wolfsrahne28.bsky.social•14 days ago

Like I explained before, my theory is that people only want to be acknowledged, properly warned of SA themes, and heard out. If SOME victims don’t need or want that is okay. But if SOME OTHER ONES need it, that is also reasonable.

thatzachreacts.bsky.social•14 days ago

And that's fair. They didn't have a TW on ep 4 at first, but that was corrected. But Also that's on Amazon for not doing, cuz they host the service & are supposed to put Viewer Discretion.

There's no reason to come at Viv for that.

localragdoll.bsky.social•14 days ago

THISS!!
I saw their comment earlier and had a thought similar to this but I didn't know how to put it into words.
Atp if you don't like how something is handled in media; don't consume said media.

raisoramizu.bsky.social•14 days ago

Trigger warnings are there, big as a building, even if you didn’t see them, even if you disguise yourself as a lamb and fail to grasp the dangerous idea you’re promoting.
TV and shows are not your parents, nor your therapists. Stop blaming the innocent and get help from the right professionals.

wolfsrahne28.bsky.social•14 days ago

What am I saying that’s dangerous? I don’t understand what you’re accusing me of. Like, I’m genuinely lost.

raisoramizu.bsky.social•14 days ago

And therefore, she supposedly lacks empathy for victims. If your argument is correct, then it applies to any negative character.. Joker, Hannibal, Ghostface.. they could all be triggers for someone. So what do we do? Ban them all? Fill art only with goodness as if evil doesn’t exist in the world?

wolfsrahne28.bsky.social•14 days ago

I did not accuse Viv of lacking empathy. I was simply theorizing that the issue is that some SA victims feel talked over, dismissed, and triggered, and that they would like to be acknowledged. Is that a bad thing to assume people would like to be heard when they feel hurt?

raisoramizu.bsky.social•14 days ago

A lot of people like Valentino, I like Valentino. I also like Joker from Batman, and I think the recruiter from Squid Game is a really well-made character. So what?

So the problem for sexual abuse victims is Valentino’s keychain and not Angel Dust?

wolfsrahne28.bsky.social•14 days ago

That is not at all what I said. And I wonder how you got that from me saying that some victims don’t like being dismissed or talked over.

raisoramizu.bsky.social•14 days ago

There are billions of people in the world, each with their own experiences, ideologies, and traumas. Anything we do, say, or create can potentially trigger someone with related trauma.

You accuse Vivienne of making an abuser character that people like…

wolfsrahne28.bsky.social•14 days ago

So I am incorrect? People do not like Valentino?

raisoramizu.bsky.social•14 days ago

Your arguments are the foundation of suppressing freedom of speech and artistic expression, but we won’t stop expressing ourselves despite people like you. The people you think you're protecting while oppressing others need therapy, not an adult-oriented product.

wolfsrahne28.bsky.social•14 days ago

I’m not sure where you’re getting that from. I’m all about freedom of expression, and I’m against censorship. I also don’t recall saying anyone needs adults products. Can you explain how I came across that way?

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