I am troubled. I can't for the life of me understand why we all can't work together, at least until we get our independence. Then we can all decide which party we want to follow. Tell me why this is such an impossible ask. - ThreadSky

loobyloo55.bsky.social • 90 days ago

I am troubled.
I can't for the life of me understand why we all can't work together, at least until we get our independence.
Then we can all decide which party we want to follow.
Tell me why this is such an impossible ask.

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annemarief.bsky.social•89 days ago

I feel your pain but until everyone sees the bigger picture this is what will happen and the unionists will be rubbing their hands in glee🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

wisecelticlass.bsky.social•89 days ago

because media and misinformation is placed to divide us - if the acknowledged 50+% of indy support was to work together there no stopping it!!

loobyloo55.bsky.social•89 days ago

Would you agree that there are a lot of perceived barriers around working together that could be put aside?
After all, we all want exactly the same thing.

wisecelticlass.bsky.social•89 days ago

oh definitely! if all indy folk & politicians could focus on the need to attain indy then it would be unstoppable.

loobyloo55.bsky.social•89 days ago

I agree wholeheartedly.

wisecelticlass.bsky.social•89 days ago

discussion on.....

wisecelticlass.bsky.social•89 days ago

That doesn't negate the need to have a citizen council of duscuon currency , EU membership and constitution - we need those so everyone knows they've been heard and we know what we are voting for. Holyrood'26 or a indyref or whatever...we can't be another Brexit

carnsallan.bsky.social•89 days ago

Me neither. It’s utter madness. Get Independence then sort out our issues via an actual Scottish Election. Sometimes I think it must be the unionists somehow “stirring” it up🤷.

loobyloo55.bsky.social•89 days ago

And the politicians sitting on their hands?

carnsallan.bsky.social•89 days ago

I’ve no answer🤷

tlazolteotl1519.bsky.social•90 days ago

I think because the SNP's a progressive left party & tries to govern Scotland as such, the movement's fractured along political lines.

The sad reality is - as we can see with what's happened with UK Labour over the last 7 or 8 years - for the Right, crushing Lefties comes before anything else.

radiojammor.bsky.social•90 days ago

People often conflate two things: Support for Independence with preferred party. This of course overlaps on differences over how we go about it.
Our biggest problem is that we do NOT have a non-party aligned umbrella org. AUOB blew it & Salvo/Liberation Scotland is not big enough (at least not yet)🧵

radiojammor.bsky.social•90 days ago

Without an umbrella body that we can ALL support, we get initiatives from political parties, which followers of other parties reject on principle or for 'reasons'.
We need an independent, non-party aligned umbrella org to agree/decide this & it becomes upto the parties to follow or not.

radiojammor.bsky.social•90 days ago

As things stand, the pro-Indy SNP & SGP are campaigning for the ability for Scotland to have a referendum. This is dry and uninspiring stuff and could quite possibly be utterly fruitless. It ultimately led to the SNP losing most of its MPs five months ago.

radiojammor.bsky.social•90 days ago

We need another route that does not rely on the good-will of Westminster. I think Salvo/Liberation Scot may have that, but more people need to come to terms with the party political situation to support it.
And party political support can be diehard.

meteorgirl.bsky.social•89 days ago

I don’t know how many times it needs saying, an Indy movement built on the exclusion and persecution of minorities is unacceptable. It doesn’t matter how the argument is phrased, or how much the advocates of hate try to gaslight the others.

It’s really easy to resolve though, drop these policies.

soosider3.bsky.social•89 days ago

Because some don’t want to, they can’t be reconciled with, they are looney fringe.

rableather.bsky.social•89 days ago

I can explain it if you like.

scottishsmile.bsky.social•90 days ago

United we stand and all that can only last for so long. I hope there’ll be a renewal and refocus at some point. Sadly I cannot see it being imminent. It’s relatively easy for malevolent actors to foment division about topics that would divide any group isn’t it?

glittermonkey.bsky.social•90 days ago

It’s not as easy as that unfortunately. I wish it were. For example, I am unable to swallow misinformation, hatred and bigotry from some of the Indy parties. That’s not something that I can “work together” with ever.

melissapudding.bsky.social•90 days ago

It’s not an impossible task! All it needs is the will and determination to be an independent nation.

loobyloo55.bsky.social•90 days ago

Don't we all have that will and determination though?
Is it the block is with the political parties?

melissapudding.bsky.social•90 days ago

I don’t know, are the parties so egotistical that they want the win?
The political landscape in UK (particularly England) is changing so much to some extent the battle lines have to be redrawn.
Now the argument is almost as simple as Freedom or Privatisation.

melissapudding.bsky.social•90 days ago

Ignore link, I didn’t add.

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