Fiona Fox’s recent article in Research Professional News cautions that expelling Elon Musk from the Royal Society could undermine public trust in science. I disagree... 🧵 1/25 www.researchprofessionalnews.com/rr-news-uk-v... - ThreadSky

kityates.bsky.social • 5 days ago

Fiona Fox’s recent article in Research Professional News cautions that expelling Elon Musk from the Royal Society could undermine public trust in science.
I disagree...
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https://www.researchprofessionalnews.com/rr-news-uk-views-of-the-uk-2025-february-if-the-royal-society-expels-musk-it-could-harm-trust-in-science/

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kityates.bsky.social•5 days ago

I think that this perspective overlooks the critical role that scientific institutions play in upholding ethical standards and defending the integrity of science, especially at times when science and scientists are subject to threats and intimidation from political institutions
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kityates.bsky.social•5 days ago

It's imperative that scientists and their representative bodies actively engage in political discourse to protect scientific integrity, particularly when it is under direct threat, as has been clearly evidenced by recent developments in the United States
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https://www.iflscience.com/us-science-is-under-attack-77917

kityates.bsky.social•5 days ago

The Royal Society bears the responsibility of maintaining the standards among its fellows.
Elon Musk, admitted as a fellow in 2018 for his technological innovations, has recently engaged in behaviour that many argue contravenes the Society's code of conduct.
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kityates.bsky.social•5 days ago

Notably, over 2,000 scientists (including myself) have signed an open letter urging the Royal Society to expel Musk, citing his public frequent dissemination of unfounded conspiracy theories, his assault on the conduct of science in the United States and beyond...
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kityates.bsky.social•5 days ago

...and his malicious accusations towards public scientists (like Anthony Faucci) and other public figures, which they believe undermine the Society's values and reputation.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2022/12/11/elon-musk-tweets-my-pronouns-are-prosecutefauci-heres-the-response/

kityates.bsky.social•5 days ago

In my view the argument that expelling Musk could harm public trust in science fails to consider the damage inflicted by retaining a fellow whose actions contradict the ethical principles the Royal Society purports to hold.
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ricecp.bsky.social•4 days ago

STAND UP!
WE'RE HERE FOR THE RUMBLE.
It's a time for fierce compassion. Be fierce, do an activity everyday. It's self care. Be the rain, the howling wind, and the mountainous wave. Be the storm. Be the broken record. Pass it on.

christopher-hervez.bsky.social•4 days ago

I'm not entirely sure why he was elected anyway. The scientifically engaged public - even those who are less engaged - will want this answered. After all, his major achievement has been raking in money through exemptions and rebates from governments. I'm not sure there's a Nobel Prize for that.

ricecp.bsky.social•4 days ago

The science I learned discards hypotheses that the evidence demonstrates are unsupported. In my view the evidence is clear that Musk's behavior does not indicate that he has the integrity to be a scientist of the Royal Society. To continue Musk's membership would be merely a political act.

cuckoosnest.bsky.social•5 days ago

anti-vaxxers are not scientists

astill73.bsky.social•5 days ago

📌

deepseadawn.bsky.social•5 days ago

@shelevergreen.bsky.social, sounds familiar. 🤨

shelevergreen.bsky.social•4 days ago

But sCieNcE DiPLoMacY!

deepseadawn.bsky.social•4 days ago

🫠

shelevergreen.bsky.social•4 days ago

this emoji 24/7

dj1au.bsky.social•5 days ago

He thinks the private sector can take on research. He has no idea.

ceri38.bsky.social•5 days ago

Is Musk a scientist? Or does he just employ them. I read that he bought Tesla from someone who’d done the hard work

boysek.bsky.social•5 days ago

He's not a scientist.

ceri38.bsky.social•5 days ago

I thought he wasn’t so why was he invited into the Royal Society?

boysek.bsky.social•5 days ago

Likely "contributions" to science, by buying businesses that supposedly advance science.

Tesla and SpaceX have legit made some useful technological advances.

dj1au.bsky.social•5 days ago

The only treason he bought them is to make money. He has no interest in climate change and most would be tesla buyers are deserting the brand as his values do not align with theirs.

boysek.bsky.social•5 days ago

Oh I know that that.

He's a stone cold narcissist.

Cares nothing about other humans or the world.

ceri38.bsky.social•5 days ago

Nah. Don’t like it. It should be the actual people doing the science. IMO

boysek.bsky.social•5 days ago

I'm with you

mike.doughney.net•5 days ago

There are solvents that people like Fiona Fox can use to dissolve the superglue that's keeping their lips fully bonded to Elon Musk's ass.

tbrunner.bsky.social•5 days ago

sod "public trust in" anything. what matters is intellectual worker trust in intellectual institutions.

mike-kukla.bsky.social•5 days ago

When I heard that the Royal Society had admitted Musk, my admiration for the Society went down. I mean, did he buy his way in? If not, what scientific things did he do to earn admittance? And if him, why not Tarpenning and Eberhardt?

oldenaturalist.bsky.social•3 days ago

I have no idea why Musk was in the Royal Society in the first place.

He hasn't got a scientific bone in his body, nor an engineering one. He's a grifter through and through.

I don't understand how the Royal Society did no due diligence, and could be so gullible!

markxryan.bsky.social•3 days ago

😂

kokorogenic.bsky.social•4 days ago

Why on earth would it do that? As with most people like Musk they build their appearance mostly off the backs of much more brilliant workers..

trishap.bsky.social•4 days ago

He should be expelled from every where!

trishap.bsky.social•4 days ago

Who is she?

salwitcher.bsky.social•5 days ago

The polat opposite is true. If the Royal Society DOESN'T expel Musk it will, not could, undermine public trust in science.

mishwoz.bsky.social•5 days ago

@royalsociety.org must expel musk

@kityates.bsky.social the alternative is to resign if you are a member

Thanks @deevybee.bsky.social

https://www.researchprofessionalnews.com/rr-news-uk-charities-and-societies-2024-11-royal-society-fellow-resigns-over-elon-musk-membership/

salwitcher.bsky.social•5 days ago

aargh! Polat=polar 🤦‍♀️

seaghano.bsky.social•5 days ago

Having nazis in your ranks is not generally great for public trust.

benfpiercephd.bsky.social•4 days ago

The biggest flaw from her statement: the majority of the geberal public have no idea what the RS is or that Musk is a Fellow. This really is about scientists and credibility within the fellowship of evidence-based science.

juiceianturner.bsky.social•5 days ago

Musk has very little to do with real science!

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