Not sure why they have to be separate. We know that yes to renewables, for example, doesn't automatically mean no to fossil fuel, so we have to go after fossil fuel directly to get to yes a thriving planet, and yes a clean energy system. www.reuters.com/business/ene... - ThreadSky

rebeccasolnit.bsky.social • 100 days ago

Not sure why they have to be separate. We know that yes to renewables, for example, doesn't automatically mean no to fossil fuel, so we have to go after fossil fuel directly to get to yes a thriving planet, and yes a clean energy system. https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/renewables-growth-did-not-dent-fossil-fuel-dominance-2022-statistical-review-2023-06-25/

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rebeccasolnit.bsky.social•100 days ago

More metaphysically, there's a lot of yes in our no. No to clearcutting forests is yes to forests. No to fossil fuel expansion is yes to the transition. It could all be better articulated, but 'no' is not necessarily negative. No to destruction and corruption is pretty positive to me.

jonrynn.bsky.social•100 days ago

Generally, my experience of Left writing over the last 50 years, is that analysis, critique, and 'no', are at least 90% of the various articles and books, while solutions and 'yes' are at best 10%. I would suggest just trying to up the 'yes' to 50%, and see what happens

rebeccasolnit.bsky.social•100 days ago

When I become in charge of all left writing, I will be sure to try that.

jonrynn.bsky.social•99 days ago

I will be excited to see how you do! I try to practice what I preach -- for instance, https://prospect.org/power/else-1.9-trillion/

asiegel.bsky.social•99 days ago

Career opportunity? 😉

martinsbarata.bsky.social•98 days ago

😂

polareclipse.bsky.social•100 days ago

Fossil fuels depend on scarcity. Like a drug, you must continue getting your fix. Price is hard on the poorest.

Solar, wind and storage are cumulative. As prices drop, energy becomes widely to all. Pakistanis, like many others, are bypassing their grid.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-22/surprise-solar-boom-in-pakistan-helps-millions-but-harms-grid

vector-ze.bsky.social•100 days ago

The extra available energy provided by renewables has just fed our insatiable desire for more power.
We need to learn to live a life that consumes less, not more.

jcharleshood.bsky.social•100 days ago

That doesn't have to be the case and this framing will reinforce opposition to the transition needed. We can and should have more, but we have to YES it to being done in a way that doesn't force unnecessary losses/consumption

vector-ze.bsky.social•100 days ago

Did you notice that the increasing production of clean energy has not reduced our consumption of fossil fuels, which has increased? I respect your credentials, but you seem to have missed that point.

jcharleshood.bsky.social•100 days ago

If you draw the boundary right, they do. Emerging nations have driven basically all growth in fossil demand, the US is starting to come down and much of the increase in Europe is driven by misguided nuclear shutdowns.

jcharleshood.bsky.social•100 days ago

The bigger picture story is we need to build clean energy faster and allow dense development and promote the right transportation options. Electrification is good, but trains and shared transit in dense neighborhoods does far more.

asiegel.bsky.social•99 days ago

Absolutely don't need to be separate.

Increased density, for example, helps drive down housing costs, improves livability, and (walkability, etc ...) inherently leads to reduced emissions (all other things being equal).

Environmentally, one could start w/last point ...

kevinrmatthews.bsky.social•100 days ago

It doesn't happen quickly or at our low levels of current penetration, but it does happen. https://search.app?link=https%3A%2F%2Ftheprogressplaybook.com%2F2024%2F09%2F18%2Fchinas-ev-and-high-speed-rail-boom-is-curbing-global-oil-demand-data-shows%2F&utm_campaign=aga&utm_source=agsadl1%2Csh%2Fx%2Fgs%2Fm2%2F4

kevinrmatthews.bsky.social•100 days ago

Another example. https://search.app?link=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theenergymix.com%2Fsolarstorage-helps-displace-gas-on-california-grid%2F&utm_campaign=aga&utm_source=agsadl1%2Csh%2Fx%2Fgs%2Fm2%2F4

josephinebloggs.bsky.social•100 days ago

I suspect the public perception is that if they see more solar panels and wind turbines they assume less fossil fuels are being burned.

kubar69.bsky.social•99 days ago

What's wrong with earth? Easy it's mankind.

What's wrong with mankind? Easily lead (fossil fuel owned politicians) and gullibility(media)

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