⚡️Finland's Stubb plays golf with Trump, discusses war in Ukraine. Following the "unofficial" visit, Trump announced he would buy Finnish icebreaker vessels — critical to U.S. efforts to expand its power in the Arctic. - ThreadSky

kyivindependent.com • 12 days ago

⚡️Finland's Stubb plays golf with Trump, discusses war in Ukraine.

Following the "unofficial" visit, Trump announced he would buy Finnish icebreaker vessels — critical to U.S. efforts to expand its power in the Arctic.

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dappyhayes.bsky.social•12 days ago

So Trump lost the wager.

vans84.bsky.social•12 days ago

Greenland and Canada say wtf Finland

bensblueacc.bsky.social•11 days ago

How dare the president of Finland conduct diplomacy in order to help Europe/Ukraine?

vans84.bsky.social•11 days ago

Lol I'll believe it when I see it.

bensblueacc.bsky.social•11 days ago

Which is not the same as saying efforts to manipulate Trump should not be tried.

bensblueacc.bsky.social•11 days ago

In reality Greenland and Canada say thank you Finland for trying to talk sense into this U.S. administration by befriending the orange buffoon.

hffinnfan.bsky.social•11 days ago

The ice breaker deal was alredy negotiated with Biden’s staff. Glad that Trump confirmed it.
President Stubb also told Trump that Putin cannot be trusted.

melissa-chan.bsky.social•11 days ago

So what? Trump doesn't honour any deals as we've seen with Ukraine and Canada. Finland should absolutely slow-walk this or find a way out of it given Denmark, Greenland, and Canada are under threat from a belligerent USA. The deal signed with Biden didn't factor this in.

isonope.bsky.social•11 days ago

Neither can krasnov be trusted

pauliu.bsky.social•11 days ago

The priority for Finland is to avoid Russian aggression and remain independent. Only bad alternatives are immediately available in the increasingly dangerous situation. If a strong European defense alliance will emerge, there will be no need for Stubb to lick anyone's ass, be it Trump or Putin.

minnakiiskinen.bsky.social•12 days ago

One Finn here says the same. Wtf Stubb?

august-may.bsky.social•11 days ago

This is smart actually.

jsfellie.bsky.social•12 days ago

You may change your mind after watching this. Long but super interesting and will give you important insights into Stubb’s support of Ukraine. https://www.facebook.com/share/v/159zK7S37z/?mibextid=wwXIfr

lisapierce.bsky.social•12 days ago

Along with most of America

bensblueacc.bsky.social•11 days ago

We have to deal with the madman you voted in as President. If playing golf with him diminishes the chance of him partnering up with russia, so be it. Next time make better political choices.

lisapierce.bsky.social•11 days ago

quitecontrary09.bsky.social•12 days ago

Money up front!

stpetedave.bsky.social•12 days ago

And raise the price

grampafan.bsky.social•12 days ago

Cut 20% of the steel out, and maybe install a remote kill switch.

thedetroitdiva.bsky.social•12 days ago

U.S. acquiring icebreaker vessels to rival Russia's would be a good thing

jon-richardson.bsky.social•11 days ago

Power to do what in the Arctic? Stop Russia from invading Canada?

thanatosredux.bsky.social•11 days ago

One thing Trump needs to hear AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN from every world leader

https://bsky.app/profile/thanatosredux.bsky.social/post/3llmarlnvjs2w

creatvk.bsky.social•11 days ago

Hasn’t Finland issued a warning for its citizens to not travel to the US?

hopearchent.bsky.social•12 days ago

Stubb must have brought a beautiful painting of Trump as a bribe…I mean gift…

ihave2no.bsky.social•12 days ago

Hope there's a strategic reason for this - make Finland great agan?!

thedetroitdiva.bsky.social•12 days ago

The most likely location for WWIII is the Arctic

melissa-chan.bsky.social•11 days ago

Finland should not sell icebreakers to the USA right now, given that Trump clearly wants to annex both Greenland and Canada so the USA can control the Northwest Passage shipping lanes in the future.

We need European allies to not give the US any support towards its blatantly imperialist goals.

rampanen.bsky.social•11 days ago

Judging by trump's latest comments on putin, Stubb's swing was pretty efficient ;-)

rampanen.bsky.social•11 days ago

He also delivered European and Ukrainian messages. I prefer to see trump discuss with Stubb or Macron than Gabbard or Vance, as he has a goldfish's memory https://yle.fi/a/74-20152685

e1kka.bsky.social•12 days ago

We shouldn't sell anything to Trump.

fergusthepug.bsky.social•11 days ago

No one can trust Donald with anything.

Donald is unreliable, unstable, and untrustworthy. Canada and Mexico speak from experience, his word and agreements mean nothing.

august-may.bsky.social•11 days ago

Narcissists can be manipulated though, its what Putin has been doing, even if the goal is just disruption and not long term deals.

fergusthepug.bsky.social•11 days ago

Indeed. In Donald's case whether manipulation or simply a whim, he remains erratic and untrustworthy.

fentin.bsky.social•12 days ago

awe jeez, he told him about ice breakers. I bet Trump thought he could just drive up there, or (heh) fly up

cmhoskins.bsky.social•12 days ago

I’ve roads but for shipping. Roads, in the water, in the sky,even air roads.
Can you spell d e m e n t i a?

francesorfran.bsky.social•12 days ago

From what I have seen of Stubb he’s a very astute politician who knows exactly what Trump is. I’m wondering what he knows about trump/ Putin and also whether the icebreakers will be a negotiating tool with US wrt supporting Europe.

ballygan1.bsky.social•12 days ago

I'm inclined to agree. I have been impressed with Stubb since the start of russias illegal war against Ukraine.

francesorfran.bsky.social•12 days ago

Also a clever move to play golf and avoid the hideous press calls after meeting. Keeps away JD Vance etc too

ballygan1.bsky.social•12 days ago

True. Even I would play golf if it avoided meeting that putrid worm.

edolis.bsky.social•12 days ago

only problem being trump's unreliability. I think what is most important is the political grip. Icebreakers too long a commitment to even start thinking of building them imho.

ballygan1.bsky.social•11 days ago

Maybe that was Stubbs' plan along. Get leverage over Trump with regards to Ukraine and hope that the demented fool forgets about the icebreakers. 😁

francesorfran.bsky.social•11 days ago

I’m now wondering if the current narrative around ‘trump is angry with Putin’ and threats of tariffs on oil are a very clever play by stubb. It looks like stubb and trump were slagging Putin off whilst playing golf which will feed into putins paranoia/ psychopathic thinking.

iammenotu.bsky.social•12 days ago

Sell the vessels to the idiot.

If you know the capability of those vessels to an inch and how to disable them, there's your strategic advantage WHEN a confrontation occurs in the Bering Strait.

bisol1.bsky.social•12 days ago

Finland is the global leader in manufacturing icebreakers. Let's hope he got to Trump. Anything with Greenland is going to need icebreakers and maybe the U.S. will buy a dozen. And, let's stop Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/icebreaking-explained-finland-europes-icebreaker-superpower

uusisuru.bsky.social•11 days ago

A fantastic read! 🤓

ctx700.bsky.social•12 days ago

With only 14 icebreakers in its fleet, is it a world leader? Questionable leadership.

bisol1.bsky.social•12 days ago

What country has more?

ctx700.bsky.social•12 days ago

At the moment, 41 icebreakers are in use in Russia. Two more nuclear-powered icebreakers will leave the shipyard by the end of the year.

genericeccentric.bsky.social•12 days ago

And how many icebreakers of that fleet were made in Finland?

ctx700.bsky.social•12 days ago

Russia is building its icebreaker fleet at the Baltic Shipyard and Zvezda shipbuilding complex. The icebreaker base is located in Murmansk.

ehen.bsky.social•11 days ago

🤔🤔🤔

chegatsby.bsky.social•11 days ago

You mean to tell me the US cannot manufacture ice breakers? Shame!

cmhoskins.bsky.social•12 days ago

Appeasement will only make him want more . Much like Putin, his hero.

kiguhotaru.bsky.social•11 days ago

Stubb has always been a brown nose.
No morale whatsoever.
At least he has something common with Trump.
Will to help rich while cutting from poor.

mjaphotography.bsky.social•12 days ago

Finland enabling the orange man. All of Europe should be black listing this scumbag.

nictaugirl.bsky.social•12 days ago

You won't get paid from Trumpy. He never pays his debts.

msbrmn.bsky.social•11 days ago

I feel like this was more of "Keep your friends close, your enemies closer" type visit

martinrayner.bsky.social•12 days ago

Omitted what everyone wants to know: Did Stubb beat Trump at golf? For the sake of transparency, let’s see their scorecards!

newsupdates.bsky.social•11 days ago

I like this guy.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/30/trump-putin-ukraine-ceasefire-interview-alexander-stubb-finland

yanadear.bsky.social•12 days ago

surt42.bsky.social•12 days ago

... and now on an attack from the USA on Greenland - Finland will veto an intervention of NATO? Or fight on the side with USA?

Stubb sided in his early days with ruzzia ... maybe now he will side with the next best dictator, trump!?

lenar1.bsky.social•11 days ago

Finland is 100% on 🇬🇱🇩🇰 🇺🇦 side. Stubb has admitted he was wrong about ruzzia issues earlier. Then there was relations with the bully neighbour, and was also tried to be kept so for our own safety basically. Better get along and get the best out of it is better than being invaded, right?

wallawalla-99.bsky.social•11 days ago

Oh so Stubb has a history of being pro Russia?

lenar1.bsky.social•11 days ago

I'd say a man with a spine can also admit of being wrong. Unlike trump.

wallawalla-99.bsky.social•11 days ago

Doesnt really seem like he has changed that much - still cozying up to dictators

lenar1.bsky.social•11 days ago

Diplomatics. And it's not about Trump, he's not USA, it's you guys.

lenar1.bsky.social•11 days ago

Not pro russia really https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/22394-former-finnish-pm-stubb-admits-to-making-mistakes-on-russia.html

wallawalla-99.bsky.social•11 days ago

lenar1.bsky.social•11 days ago

Yes, and previous president Niinistö had quite close relations with Putin as well, he was a link between russia and the west for a long time, before ruzzia went totally crazy again.

maddmatty03.bsky.social•12 days ago

I hate, but know that this type of diplomacy is necessary. The free world deserves better than having to spend a minute with this internationally (and nationally) ignorant fuck.

grahampatts.bsky.social•12 days ago

WTF

hewhoisbraveisfree.bsky.social•11 days ago

No tariffs on ice breakers?

loverespectnature.bsky.social•12 days ago

With trump's politics, the climate itself will solve the problem, there will be no ice left to break

isonope.bsky.social•11 days ago

Sadly

coolat49degr33.bsky.social•11 days ago

Make sure you get the cheque up front - and leave plenty of time for it to clear.

isonope.bsky.social•11 days ago

Anyone who trusts trump is a fool

cassiej444.bsky.social•12 days ago

That’s only because the United States coast guard is worse than the USN at building ships. And that’s a high bar to jump.

claynotmarble.bsky.social•11 days ago

The TRUTH, however, is that President BIDEN negotiated the purchase of icebreakers from Finland in NOVEMBER.

Trump is like the little shithead sitting next to you in 6th grade math who leaned towards you during tests and tried to copy your answers.

jsfellie.bsky.social•12 days ago

Before criticizing Stubb, watch this video. This guy is no dummy.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/159zK7S37z/?mibextid=wwXIfr

lenar1.bsky.social•11 days ago

Thank you 😊 🇫🇮👋👋

jpmegraw.bsky.social•12 days ago

Hmmmm aren’t they part of nato

curious-bystander.bsky.social•12 days ago

Yeah.

Maybe they can make icebreakers out of something water soluble...

chenaridge.bsky.social•12 days ago

It's true that when I read the problems of the most recent US icebreaker, built in Louisiana I believe, that I immediately thought that we ought to get some expertise from those who know how to build icebreakers.

I can only hope there was no quid pro quo - but when isn't there one with Donald Trump

euantaylor.bsky.social•12 days ago

Do prime ministers need to play golf to get 1 to 1s with an amicable Trump?

jwvld.bsky.social•11 days ago

"the U.S. would purchase Finnish icebreaker vessels"

And there I am thinking having read he wanted ships in American ports to be 100% American built plus American owned plus American crewed.

Must have misread.

lukian.bsky.social•11 days ago

Making mutually exclusive statements is Trump's core competence.
After all, he is a genius.

meviv.bsky.social•12 days ago

Just make sure they come with kill switches.

spacecadetty.bsky.social•12 days ago

Traitor or spy, he can't be both.🍻🇨🇦

pacoheney.bsky.social•12 days ago

I hope those Finnish vessels have a "kill switch" since you never know who Krasnov might use them against...

kettlecorncandy.bsky.social•11 days ago

I'm sure this story will change 10 times over.

canadianduckie.bsky.social•12 days ago

Unofficial visit from a world leader meeting on a golf course, I wonder WTF they privately agreed on? No official record kept.

Trump needs an ice breaker and he wants Greenland......and Finland just joined NATO.

Nothing to see here folks.

idefixasterix.bsky.social•12 days ago

And a Nokia phone I presume. A 3210 oldtimer. Easy to use.

farkinaustralia.bsky.social•12 days ago

i hope they were hitting their own balls around

farkinaustralia.bsky.social•12 days ago

bet not 1 of them put down a truthful score

floor6.bsky.social•12 days ago

Whatever happened to the orange man insisting that shipbuilding was coming back to MAGA land? A country the size of Finland can build them but he can’t get it done in the USA?

grampafan.bsky.social•12 days ago

I wouldn’t worry too much. Trump will be dead long before they’re built.

wandalevitt.bsky.social•12 days ago

oh, cmon Finland?
that was your chance to save the world, wack him over the head..

kristen64.bsky.social•12 days ago

Finland should go ahead. But tone the icebreaker s down a little bit, maybe 10%, cus though US is an ally for now it may not be in the future.

profsteiner.bsky.social•12 days ago

The US is not an ally.

kristen64.bsky.social•12 days ago

Until formal withdrawal from NATO 🇺🇸 is still an ally. Albeit not a very trustworthy nor reliable ally, whose actions are disturbingly hostile.

profsteiner.bsky.social•12 days ago

That's not a reasonable definition of an ally. You wouldn't call a person who's bullying you and is constantly threatening to take your house and plotting with your enemies against you a friend.

kristen64.bsky.social•11 days ago

I should rather compare it to an abusive marriage. Outsiders cant understand why she doesnt leave. But perhaps she has no other option but to outlive the precarious circumstances. Thats the situation for Denmark, we dont have a clear cut alternative as we are tangled up in depedencies

profsteiner.bsky.social•11 days ago

That's not proving your initial point but rather is helping mine: the US is not an ally, just like an abusive spouse is not a loving, caring, trustworthy, reliable person. An abusive spouse is not your ally. I don't know how else to explain it, and that's YOUR analogy.

mrparadise.bsky.social•11 days ago

We all know what you are both staying. NATO is marriage. Normal circumstances is that we respect and can trust each other. That moment (80 years) has passed. Denmark and the rest of are just speaking to our lawyers and working out how to detach without losing the house and reducing the acrimony.

mrparadise.bsky.social•11 days ago

Very well said....I watched that briefing and thought the US Arms manufacturers would have had there heads in their hands..Art of the deal my arse.

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