Is ‘fat but fit’ a real thing? Study says fitness better predictor of health than BMI www.independent.co.uk/life-style/h... - ThreadSky

the-independent.com • 157 days ago

Is ‘fat but fit’ a real thing? Study says fitness better predictor of health than BMI
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/bmi-body-weight-fatness-fitness-death-b2651119.html

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bfg301.bsky.social•157 days ago

As a former wrestler I could backflip off the top rope and was over 300 at that time. People just want excuses to feel better about themselves and they target fat people. Problem is I'll fight you and they find out fast.

davidjohnsmith.bsky.social•157 days ago

Don't confuse youth with health. Those 300 lbs don't feel like much with young bones, cartilage, and joints. You can't outrun physics. Weight will always catch up.

bfg301.bsky.social•157 days ago

Should of looked at your profile first. Yea you would get your ass beat in about 1 minute 23 seconds

bfg301.bsky.social•157 days ago

I'm 37 275 and will still sweet chin music someone 6"2 . Shut the fuck up when talking about my body bitch

davidjohnsmith.bsky.social•156 days ago

"Black men are 70 percent more likely to die from a stroke as compared to non-Hispanic whites." Instead of fighting me go for a walk. Also I make .50 on every $1 you spend in a hospital.

bfg301.bsky.social•156 days ago

That's because we have to deal with dumbass people like you. Stress effects everyone no matter the size. Living in a racist as country where people like you are the norm is stressful. Either way you can still get your ass beat.

davidjohnsmith.bsky.social•156 days ago

I agree stress is bad. Getting this heated about weight when you could go for a walk is not great for stress.

bartgummy.bsky.social•156 days ago

You tell that piece of shit 😎

bartgummy.bsky.social•156 days ago

What’s wrong with you?

lilaclimm.bsky.social•156 days ago

I’ve always been borderline fat. Even doctor said I was fat. But I exercise regularly and eat well and can do a marathon(I can’t seem to lose my weight doing long distance running) no problems. In my 40s. So I’ve kinda accepted my body shape and not tried too hard to fight it.

ft-friendly.bsky.social•157 days ago

So, it means that "it's better to be healthy than ill"?

whitemale4harris.bsky.social•157 days ago

BMI is a stone age tool used by old fatphobic white men to try to control the bodies of others they deem "unfit".

Lizzo is a talented and active young woman by every metric, yet we are supposed to believe she's unhealthy because of some arbitrary BMI number?

Make it make sense.

michaelprager.bsky.social•157 days ago

OK, BMI sucks as a measure.

“Fat but fit” is possible, absolutely. If you walk 30 mins a day, you’re going to be more fit. Unavoidable.

AND: The statistics are incontrovertible that the more overweight one is, the more likely one is to experience more ill health and shorter lives.

enoughistoomuch.bsky.social•157 days ago

BMI is a horrible indicator. Most bodybuilders are obese on the BMI scale. Measure body fat, not weight.

chattadawg.bsky.social•157 days ago

Waist to height is a better measurement of metabolic health than BMI in my opinion

Also, you can be overweight and still have strong cardio and vascular markings
metabolic panel that includes blood pressure, waist:height and key blood markers is best IMHO

bogdoc.bsky.social•156 days ago

I have been overweight or obese my whole life since childhood. There have been times where my BMI was lower than it was today, but I ran 7 miles yesterday at a pace of less than 9 minutes per mile. Something I never could have done at any other point in my life. So BMI is certainly lacking.

dendambelle.bsky.social•157 days ago

BMI is a seriously flawed and unhelpful index, adopted by the medical field, not created by it. It doesn't account for many factors and is, I'm pleased to say, being increasingly abandoned. Then there's the demographic issue re race and gender. BMI is a no, fitness a yes.

michaelprager.bsky.social•157 days ago

Thanks, Denise. Well said.

Lebron James is obese, according to BMI.

myunclejesse.bsky.social•153 days ago

BMI can't distinguish muscle weight from fat. I've read however it's a fairly, though crude, predictor of certain health risks.

johnonymous62.bsky.social•157 days ago

Odd to use a photo of someone who could not be considered "fat" in any way, shape, or form whatsoever.

jermhoosierfan.bsky.social•157 days ago

I was going to say that the woman in the picture is not what I consider "fat".

johnonymous62.bsky.social•154 days ago

I don't see how any reasonably sane person could possibly think that.

eatmopig.bsky.social•157 days ago

Heard someone once say that America is simultaneously the fittest and fattest country in the world… and sometimes we put them together and make an offensive lineman…

michaelprager.bsky.social•157 days ago

Maybe someone said it, but I don’t think it’s so.

musicmark.bsky.social•157 days ago

spursyknight.bsky.social•157 days ago

To give you an example, Michael Jordan was considered to be obese by the BMI scale.

soundersfan74.bsky.social•156 days ago

I've ran 2 marathons and a bunch of 1/2 marathons "Obese" according to the BMI. 🤷‍♂️

davidjohnsmith.bsky.social•157 days ago

So much cope in these replies. BMI might be fake but weight is real. Being heavy damages your bones and joints. Go for a walk.

klassmi.bsky.social•156 days ago

Walking is the best for body and mind.

robconway.bsky.social•157 days ago

As a runner I can tell you I am more fit and healthier at my current weight/BMI than I was 5 years ago at the same weight when I wasn’t running.

thebeehammer.com•156 days ago

I am 6’ 295 and can run circles around a lot of thinner friends. I regularly kayak 10+ miles. BMI is trash

rescott.bsky.social•156 days ago

You can be built thick and fit, but not obese.

taukanda.bsky.social•157 days ago

How do they measure fitness though?

helencoaches.bsky.social•156 days ago

Have a look at the article and it explains what the researchers discovered to be better indicators of fitness - cardiovascular health apparently.

taukanda.bsky.social•156 days ago

I read it, but my concern is BMI works as an objective health measure, even if flawed.

To replace it, we'd need a clear, numerical way to measure CV health. Without that, it risks being subjective or limited.

The article didn't suggest a way of doing that so unfortunately it's a bit redundant.

helencoaches.bsky.social•156 days ago

There are numerous, well established ways to measure cardiovascular health! If you mean a quick and dirty way, any "healthcare" provider can work without even looking someone in the eye? Then no, you're right! There isn't an easy formula needing no real medical equipment and under 2 minutes!

garagegymdad.bsky.social•157 days ago

The way someone looks isn’t always reflective of how fit they are

Some dudes look jacked af but are pumped full of gear, eat like shit and couldn’t jog a mile

Some chunks can leap skip and jump a mile easy and are much healthier inside

BMI has always been flawed for the majority of the population

shawjaws.bsky.social•157 days ago

Absolutely me. I don't look it but I can quite happily do 12 hour hikes in the mountains

if7ate9.bsky.social•156 days ago

By BMI metrics I’m borderline obese. By dr standards I’m perfectly fine.

araitatsuya.bsky.social•157 days ago

Health has been always predicted the level of fitness. It’s the society that projected the prejudice of which people with high BMI must be unhealthy. BMI has a merit - doctors cannot let their patients to walk 30 min to evaluate his/her health. Going after the metric solely misses the point.

offbrandheels.bsky.social•157 days ago

People's perspectives on everything are totally warped. We need a docu-series about what different bodies on different diets can do. A 7 stone person with a restrictive couldn't hike 10 miles. A 14 stone person with a varied diet could.

mayzi103.bsky.social•157 days ago

Fat but fit is bullshit. Lose weight, being obese is the worst thing for your health.

caroling2.bsky.social•157 days ago

I have no trouble believing this, especially for certain body types, but for me personally with my ectomorph-ish body type, it’s easier for me to be fit when I’m less fat.

starkcontrast.bsky.social•157 days ago

Imagine being the stock photo chosen for this. Wherever you are lady know that you look great

fangyang80.bsky.social•157 days ago

One thing I had trouble explaining was that while there are downsides to too much fat (joints, viceral fat, mobility) but the fat itself is biologically meant to be there it's part of your body the fat cells aren't the thing making you unhealthy (except as above) its comorbid behaviours that are.

dmarchell.bsky.social•157 days ago

I recommend checking out the HAES philosophy. There are many other ways to understand health besides weight or BMI.

mareechan.bsky.social•156 days ago

Have you ever thought about how your brand name is an oxymoron?

frankstfu.online•157 days ago

Yes and my ass is proof.

eddie-l.bsky.social•157 days ago

BMI is stupid, it doesn't work unless it's stupidly specific on the demographic, Dwayne Johnson is incredibly unhealthily obese according to BMI

awesomecc.bsky.social•157 days ago

BMI has been proved to be false for years
It doesn't take build into account

andrewt1800.bsky.social•157 days ago

BMI becomes flawed after 1-2 years of consistent training. It really doesn’t apply to anyone in the late beginner stage and beyond

addlebob.bsky.social•156 days ago

BMI is an outdated method for determining obesity. Girth measurements for example are a better determinant for predicting diabetes. Especially in men!

jinbahji77.bsky.social•157 days ago

Yeah my BMI is like a 24 but I couldn't do a single push up (should issues) and might be able to walk an hour without stopping. Jogging is out of the question. Anything outside of light weights is impossible. I am in terrible shape.

purepaks.bsky.social•157 days ago

Yep, can confirm. Especially when it comes to ultras, it’s surprising to see how many runners have a’ high’ BMI.
#RunClub

oldmanfitness.bsky.social•156 days ago

What is the measurement of fit? The military uses Physical Fitness tests, do you propose everyone does that? BMI sucks, but patients lie (Dr. House - and everyone else).

kategriffiths.bsky.social•157 days ago

mayzi103.bsky.social•157 days ago

His arteries were clogged..

kategriffiths.bsky.social•157 days ago

With awesomeness

cakeofbeef.bsky.social•157 days ago

I hate this reply. So much.

Heart disease is the leading cause of death for males and we know how to prevent it. Yet we don't.

kategriffiths.bsky.social•157 days ago

I'm sorry you feel this way. It was a joke reply.

Unfortunately Bam Bam Bigelow died of a drug overdose

cakeofbeef.bsky.social•157 days ago

No worries. He was dying from Heart Disease either way though unfortunately

mayzi103.bsky.social•156 days ago

Yea he did but in the post mortem they found out his arteries were clogged and he was screwed either way.

timcanhandlebar.bsky.social•157 days ago

Yeah, I exercise twice a day, five days a week. Looking at me, you’d think, “Oh, he must be out of shape.” Because I’m not trim. I’ve been maintaining the same weight for over a year, and I’m down 60 lbs since April 2021. I took the slow method and I feel better than ever. Learned a lot, too.

mcfarrelly.bsky.social•156 days ago

This is important information because I suspect many people who are overweight don’t exercise because they think getting thin is unattainable, so they don’t bother to exercise. We should turn this around and encourage people to get fit regardless of weight.

zackkerwin.bsky.social•157 days ago

Did that lady dirty

geekofmanytopics.bsky.social•157 days ago

"The review reveals that fit people, across all BMI categories, have statistically similar risks of death from heart disease. Unfit individuals, in contrast, have a two- to three-fold higher risk of death from heart disease compared with fit people of normal weight."

ejthemarx.bsky.social•157 days ago

I'm 240. According to the bmi chart I'm obese even though I'm right at 15 percent body fat along with being vegan and active for years. The BMI scale is ridiculously outdated and people should stop using it.

occamstaser.bsky.social•156 days ago

BMI as a health measure has been a scam for a long time.

stirlingnewberry.bsky.social•157 days ago

It is called "delusion."

shawjaws.bsky.social•157 days ago

I don't agree with you there. I have a bit of a gut and I am definitely overweight, I also run 3 times a week (including 1 or 2 half marathons a month), rock climb twice a week and hike at weekends. I would absolutely consider myself fat but fit.

alicemichaud.bsky.social•156 days ago

Thank God.

onemangang.bsky.social•155 days ago

Looking at indigenous people who generally achieve ripe old ages with far lower incidence of the degenerative diseases seen in western cultures, they still take around 17k steps per day into their very ripe old age. I understand the difficulty of doing this due to financial demands on most of us.

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