Judith Butler, philosopher: ‘If you sacrifice a minority like trans people, you are operating within a fascist logic’ A leading figure in feminism and gender studies, now voted one of the most influential minds in the world… english.elpais.com/culture/2024... - ThreadSky

mimmymum.bsky.social • 70 days ago

Judith Butler, philosopher: ‘If you sacrifice a minority like trans people, you are operating within a fascist logic’

A leading figure in feminism and gender studies, now voted one of the most influential minds in the world…

https://english.elpais.com/culture/2024-12-15/judith-butler-philosopher-if-you-sacrifice-a-minority-like-trans-people-you-are-operating-within-a-fascist-logic.html?outputType=amp

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daniel-forest-scap.bsky.social•68 days ago

How does Judith Butler define, "sacrifice"? If Judith defined sacrifice as, "put in concentration camps", then you would be correct. If the definition is, "not let access a gender surgery until they are 18", then you may prefer a younger age, but to compare it to the Holocaust is crazy.

beanychapman.bsky.social•69 days ago

What a wasted opportunity by a shitty interviewer.

litterygeniarse.bsky.social•70 days ago

This contains a differential analysis of the Conservatives Fascists and (sadly) Labour, with specific reference to their scapegoats but also my approximation of hope
https://johnhuwevans.wordpress.com/2024/11/27/fascists-conservatives-labour-hope/

ricklarios.bsky.social•69 days ago

100%

kvynall.bsky.social•70 days ago

"The more people who say that they can “live with” racism and misogyny in a candidate, even if they’re not enthusiastic racists, the more the enthusiastic racists and the fascists become stronger."

tenshimelt.bsky.social•70 days ago

hold on where's that poem

marionette.bsky.social•70 days ago

Damn, this reporter is just -Digging- to see if he can get a TERFy quote to pull

marionette.bsky.social•70 days ago

He’s trying to get sensationalist garbage and she’s just dumping substance on his fire, this is good interview management

moschoenfeld.bsky.social•70 days ago

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jsewtz.bsky.social•69 days ago

https://thecritic.co.uk/judith-butler-has-a-projection-problem/

mimmymum.bsky.social•69 days ago

Victoria Smith (Glosswitch) is a well known ‘gender critical’ transphobe. I don’t have the time or inclination to read her anti-trans propaganda.

jsewtz.bsky.social•69 days ago

Enjoy your lane.

stuntlover.bsky.social•70 days ago

Not terribly impressed with the journalist and his transparent attempts at leading, tho

stuntlover.bsky.social•70 days ago

After reading it a third time and having to point it out to him, that all his Qs about trans are rightwing talking points, I'm even less impressed.

Here's an example of a fact-based question, if you don't want to be another "just asking questions" useful idiot journo for the rightwing:

stuntlover.bsky.social•70 days ago

"A number of respected and relevant medical bodies around the world have criticised the methodology and presentation of the 'Cass Report' in the UK. Given that, why do you think parties of the US and UK governments continue to refer to it when drafting legislation?"

not hard.

ariel-haymarket.bsky.social•70 days ago

Neoreaganite "centrists" can never get their shit straight.

michaelcue.bsky.social•70 days ago

Seems what Butler is doing is being done with some passion. Probably difficult to find a young reporter who would understand. I'm sure there are some, sprinkled about.

stuntlover.bsky.social•70 days ago

& Butler's been a leading thinker on gender literally decades? Like, get a journo who's read even 1 of her books or articles, then. Journos and papers doing this sort of sneaky framing is part of what has normalised this backslide into anti-LGBT bigotry, so I'm not very charitable on this point.

stuntlover.bsky.social•70 days ago

But S AZ is nice 😍

stuntlover.bsky.social•70 days ago

He's forty fucking six. If he doesn't *know* he's using rightwing framing, then he should be thanking people for pointing it out. If he does, fuck all forty fucking six of his years. El País is supposed to a be a center-left paper, we have self-ID here in Spain,

stuntlover.bsky.social•70 days ago

so it's not an unknown topic; it's doubtful that *all* his framing would just *accidentally* all be rightwing.

loosf.bsky.social•70 days ago

The repeated invocation of the reactionary framing of "gender ideology", a fucking dogwhistle from the right and the church is fucking telling

michaelcue.bsky.social•70 days ago

All I meant was the guy lacks any passion of his own. He shouldn't be speaking with people who do, in a professional capacity.

stuntlover.bsky.social•70 days ago

yes, I agree with you, he should not have been interviewing her.

carlnyberg312.bsky.social•70 days ago

If you concede that the dominant group's feelings are inherently important, one is going to be trapped in an endless succession of concessions to the dominant group's feelings.

poemproducer.bsky.social•70 days ago

of course

frickin-dude.bsky.social•70 days ago

What if we sacrificed the oligarchs? Is that acceptable? Asking for a friend.

jaiyvonne.bsky.social•70 days ago

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digitalr3x.bsky.social•67 days ago

I advocate for treating trans people with kindness, empathy, and understanding. Just as I would anyone else struggling with mental and psychological illnesses. What does Butler mean by "sacrificing a minority?"

shardsofblue.com•70 days ago

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stanton.bsky.social•69 days ago

Throwing other people into the oven to save yourself only delays the inevitable realization that your master thinks you're naught but kindling, e.g., CEOs realizing TODAY that Trump is going to go through with tanking the economy with his idiotic tariffs.

jjacobmarion.bsky.social•70 days ago

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egyptttt.bsky.social•69 days ago

So she can write coherent sentences.

richardswagner.bsky.social•68 days ago

Lauded by transsexuals on bluesky isn't the same as being broadly "influential".

ghostdoggtv.bsky.social•69 days ago

The structure of the interview, I mean the line of questions itself, reads like a Piers Morgan propaganda piece. They use a conversation about Hamas to undermine moral credibility and then make the election of Trump about the gender wars instead of the failures of American political leadership. lol

transarchivist.bsky.social•70 days ago

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knittergamer.bsky.social•70 days ago

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bert711.bsky.social•70 days ago

For the life of me I will not understand why in 2024 anyone would think any group should be sacrificed or done away with or oppressed or whatever you want to call it.

aloner.bsky.social•70 days ago

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frigidarnica.bsky.social•70 days ago

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verymadonline.bsky.social•70 days ago

People should know by now you're not going to trap Judith Butler with a gotcha question on any topic, really.

resistorsister.bsky.social•69 days ago

Tolerance of the intolerant is a betrayal of marginalized communities. Eventually, the face-eating leopards will eat your face, too.

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