I imagine I could hear a thing made by an AI and like it as much as I like this Specials song, but I can definitely confirm that I have not had that experience. I have thoughts about why that is, and some people might dismiss them as “magical,” but I don’t think that is it. - ThreadSky

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gabriel-solis.bsky.social • 5 days ago

I imagine I could hear a thing made by an AI and like it as much as I like this Specials song, but I can definitely confirm that I have not had that experience. I have thoughts about why that is, and some people might dismiss them as “magical,” but I don’t think that is it.

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gabriel-solis.bsky.social•5 days ago

Also, goodness knows, I know artists who use machine learning as a tool in making art. And some of it is great! (Some of it isn’t, but that’s the way of all things). But notably, the machine bit of that art is incidental. It’s technical.

gabriel-solis.bsky.social•5 days ago

It’s not unlike the way non-machine learning synths, sequencers, etc. opened up sounds and tools to musicians in earlier decades.

gabriel-solis.bsky.social•5 days ago

I can’t really imagine why AI would change my strong feeling that The Specials should be compensated despite not making a thing that is specifically at the outer bounds of creativity/innovation. Or why I would not see it as a real loss that fewer people can be so compensated now.

gabriel-solis.bsky.social•5 days ago

I get that my thread here is about a separate issue, to a degree, but I think it’s relevant. I think we ought to have wide understanding of what constitutes a kind of “citation” in making art that should not trigger a compensation to the cited.

gabriel-solis.bsky.social•5 days ago

But inasmuch as this seems to revolve around a combination of knowledge and innovation/creativity, it seems like a problem that despite a long tradition of thinking about it in both theory and practice, I don’t think there’s a really satisfying account of what innovation or creativity is in art.

tedunderwood.me•5 days ago

Yeah, when I wrote the original thread I briefly wondered whether this would apply to art or only to truth-claim kinds of discourses.

I don’t know. But I also don’t think I know for sure that originality works in a very different way in, say, fiction & music than it does in research.

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