She is very much known to be financed by Russia, at this point it is hardly a secret at all. I’m all about the idea that candidates cannot expect loyalty “because the other guy is worse,” but your “protest vote” can’t be for an enemy Agent, duhhhhhh
Stop blaming everyone else for the democratic partys mistakes. I'm not saying million of democrats staying home was cool but I literally haven't heard the name Jill Stein for 6 years.
Yes I missed that and I follow current events very closely. The main reason Harris lost is because Americans are so uniformed that they were entirely unaware of Trumps disgusting antics. If I haven't heard from Stein, neither did most Americans.
Except for the ones who literally saw her name on their ballots. And all the Trump voters who heard him endorse her on Nov. 4th. But yeah, I'm sure she's blameless.
This may not have shifted the electors, but it's still pretty damning. I would *love* to see viable 3rd parties rise, but they will not under first-past-the-post. Anyone wanting 3rd parties needs to focus their activism there.
Ah OK. And how many votes in purple states did she take away from Harris? So your solution is to do away with the democratic process and only allow one candidate from two parties? I'm pretty sure having two very uninspiring candidates to choose from is how we got here in the first place.
Of course not. Sadly, the only hope for third parties is to change the way we count votes. That would have been a struggle as well, but there was a much better chance of that happening last month than there is now. As for the democratic process itself — I guess we'll see how that plays out.
Oh man such assholery withholding your vote when the sitting president is supplying the active genocide of your people
Look harder
Also don’t be racist
There'd be bombs falling on Gaza as we speak. But it's undeniable that even if he does an evil thing later, Trump has done one positive thing and that's get the ceasefire in place for his personal clout. That's a sad reality.
So yes, I'm fucking thrilled that Kamala and Genocide Joe lost.
The 0.5% of the population that didn't want to fall in line with genocide? Be serious. We could've all shrugged it off and voted for dems out of fear and cowardice like you did and they STILL WOULD NOT HAVE WON LOL. YOU VOTED FOR GENOCIDE AND STILL LOST LOL. Punch up at power, not down at your peers
I have a sense that they're never happy ever about anything. I mean, it was like, what? 1,000,000 + votes that were pissed into the wind for HER and Smackhead Wormbrain? 750k? Something like that.
No, it's the 31% of those who decided not to vote and here we are just beginning to suffer the consequences in what will be the longest and cruelest four years in history.
Nope. I favor a two-state solution with security and autonomy for Palestinians. But I didn't vote for Trump or stay home to express my displeasure with Biden or Harris.
I don't think it would have mattered, to be honest. Apartheid Clyde's voting machine algorithms would have just been changed. The orange Fuhrer was getting elected no matter what they had to do. America better wake up and fast!
You probably heard 15 in the immediate aftermath of the election. It took California weeks to count all their votes. The final margin was much narrower than originally thought.
Thank you for posting the percentages of the final numbers. I was aware based on my own computations back on November 6th that approximately 2.1 million voters decided to vote third party.
If you want to set a party’s agenda, then you make yourself an essential part of that party’s base. You vote in every election, every office, until you show them they need you.
I know that’s not as much fun as complaining on the outside, but if you actually care about making a difference that’s it.
Why do you ask? Because it seems like you're about to shift blame to a voter, which is exactly what you shouldn't be doing. All our options were garbage and both parties work to enrich themselves. I am not your enemy
Sadly the other guy responding to this post blocked me before I could reply. He says the causes I care about would be better off without me, but I have no power beyond voting and I've not told anyone who I voted for because it's irrelevant. Don't let emotional children like that guy agitate you.
I wonder if Harris had been a lily-white man would they change their little minds about casting a vote? Can’t help but think that they are racist and misogynist MFers!
Foolish? Like ignoring the entire concept of harm reduction and instead becoming a single issue voter, like the conservatives who got for gun or abortion policy, opening het door for an administration that will make life wors for those with disabilities, foreigners, lgbtq+, Ukraine, AND Palestine?
Oh shut the fuck up. Trump will put a hotel on the West Bank. Your ridiculous self-righteousness is not a good look and YOU ARE PART OF WHAT CAUSED THIS. Maybe you’re trying to make yourself feel better because you’re in denial that you helped cause this, but you did.
Sure, because the “better you than me” stance is so moral.
You really will tell yourself anything to avoid the elephant in the room. This isn’t sudden. It’s not surprising. We will never have a just world as long as we’re beholden to capital.
Ok but Gaza you see
If you want to bake their brains ask them to consider if a ceasefire would have been agreed to sooner if Biden won, it's a known fact Netanyahu delayed accepting any ceasefire to help Trump and if Trump lost Netanyahu would have likely dropped that favor
Because he wanted to kill Palestinians
I can already see you're fishing for any little thing you can snag so you can go "see, see, people were going to die anyway so my protest vote was correct, I'm morally superior still"
I expect a lot of that from those that helped Trump into office
I'm sure they are out there doing what they always do. Making up stupid conspiracy theories, blaming everyone else, and never, ever looking in a mirror
Great day to donate to Planned Parenthood in Cecile Richard memory & have the “thank you” note sent to a Republican in an anti-abortion red state. Greg Abbott in Texas, for example:
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How much more 'in touch' with the working class could democrats have been? Biden admin was very pro union. It meant nothing. Working class favored mass deportations and tariffs. How do you fix that?
Union participation is the lowest it's ever been. Largest employer in America is Walmart and they pay minimum. That's the working class I'm talking about.
I heard this but explain how pretend billionaire & actual billionaire were in touch with the working class? Seems like the GOP do just great by sowing division & spreading hate
Apparently America is anti joy & working to help all
They said over and over again that they would cut taxes and eliminate wasteful spending. It doesn't matter if it's true, that's what people heard and liked. The right has an insane propaganda game and the opposition calls them stupid for believing it. Unhelpful, and now we have the proof.
You're not understanding. Roll your eyes all you want, this is how people understand the world. How would you convince people that the spending is helpful? By being a snotty brat and huffing and puffing? Or maybe you can conduct yourself and try and help someone understand that.
I’m sorry but I’m fed up with this.
The exit polls had people saying they thought Trump is extreme & horrible but he’ll be better for the economy. A simple investigation into this idea shows how wrong that really is.
The press helped push forward this lie. Social media pushed this lie.
Not unhappier than I would have been if the other Zionist puppet had been elected. I don’t expect the partisans who think the issue is Trump rather than the whole US political system to understand…
I wasn’t the Jill Stein people that caused Kamala to lose but the over 30 million who didn’t vote plus the people who based their vote on the price of eggs and not on democracy.
Neither Jill Stein nor the other3rd Party candidates were the problem in this election. As I wrote, the problem was the 36 million people who didn’t vote and the ones who voted for Donald based on the price of eggs.
I just want them to admit they don't care about any of the causes they claim to care about, and that they're really just malignant narcissists and degenerate contrarians and the reason they vote third party is about setting themselves apart so they can feel and act superior to everyone else.
Yea, blame everyone else for Biden and Harris's stupidity, and the unconditional support of a Genocide. The Dems will never fucking learn, as bad as the republicans.
I'm much more perturbed with the 38% of eligible voters(~89 million) who couldn't be bothered to exercise their civic responsibility/privilege by voting!
Canada here. My good friend now thinks it wise to 'vote her heart'. Third party BS. We are less than a year away from likely electing PP, our conservative Trump sycophant. They are everywhere.
It's not the moral minority that is wrong for standing firm, but those who settled for less that are guilty for not doing better.
If you're mad at MAGA for electing a shitty candidate, then you should also be mad if your candidate supported a genocide instead of living up to a higher moral standard.
Could it be that the Dems refused to embrace progressive policies and continued to kowtow to the corporate elites? No, it's the 3rd party voters that are wrong!
Sorry, don't have the crocodile tears to cry over nazis that cry over bombing of Dresden, but hey, it's impossible that US wouldn't be Hitlerite, amirite?...
I’m actually more angry with those who didn’t vote, just so they could say they didn’t vote for anyone .. because they didn’t want to vote for a woman as president; god forbid she happened to be black as well. Now we have a nazi in charge .. 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
Before placing blame, consider investigating further. Smart Elections, who've studied elections for years, state the numbers don't add up. Blaming Democrats without all the facts does no good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgXOkfVVtbk
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Trump: 31.78%
Harris: 30.84%
3rd party: 1.06%
30.84 + 1.06 > 31.78
This may not have shifted the electors, but it's still pretty damning. I would *love* to see viable 3rd parties rise, but they will not under first-past-the-post. Anyone wanting 3rd parties needs to focus their activism there.
Look harder
Also don’t be racist
So yes, I'm fucking thrilled that Kamala and Genocide Joe lost.
Dems determine candidate undemocratically? Republicaaaaaaans
Kamala runs as a Republican light? Truuuuuuump
Dems fuck up economy? Bernieeeeee
Kamala runs as pro-Israel?
Steeeeeeeiiiiiin
But I guess being a Hitlerite isn't that big of a deal for some, huh...
Did they achieve their goals?
Or are they hiding in shame?
I’m hoping they’re happy as well
Millions stayed home THIS YEAR. Millions.
Makes me ill.
Fuck them.
They need to remove the "D" from their name and raise their own fucking money.
I know that’s not as much fun as complaining on the outside, but if you actually care about making a difference that’s it.
Her gender certainly was.
And not the fact she supported genocide in Palestine and had an incredibly stupid "Republican light" campaign???
Did you notice just before the #Election Trump was dancing like an idiot at a rally without a care in the world #rigged
/sarcoff
You really will tell yourself anything to avoid the elephant in the room. This isn’t sudden. It’s not surprising. We will never have a just world as long as we’re beholden to capital.
b) third-party voters did not lose Harris even one state, so shut the fuck up about them “causing this.”
c) it was her election to lose and she fucking lost it.
If you want to bake their brains ask them to consider if a ceasefire would have been agreed to sooner if Biden won, it's a known fact Netanyahu delayed accepting any ceasefire to help Trump and if Trump lost Netanyahu would have likely dropped that favor
I can already see you're fishing for any little thing you can snag so you can go "see, see, people were going to die anyway so my protest vote was correct, I'm morally superior still"
I expect a lot of that from those that helped Trump into office
I’m pointing out that Joe Biden failed to stop a genocide.
oh and those Jews who ignored the signs
and the Muslims who also played with the leopards.
Fuck all of those traitors.
Too bad no one repeated that 2020 magic and just repeated 2016…
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The idiots who think she’s on their team don’t vote anyway.
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Apparently America is anti joy & working to help all
The exit polls had people saying they thought Trump is extreme & horrible but he’ll be better for the economy. A simple investigation into this idea shows how wrong that really is.
The press helped push forward this lie. Social media pushed this lie.
And get it good and hard
Pound Town
You don't want to live with a bunch of hillbillies anyway.
Hit it on the head.
or the people who are not enforcing the 14th Amendment, Section 3?
or the people not looking into credible concerns about vote counts?
If you're mad at MAGA for electing a shitty candidate, then you should also be mad if your candidate supported a genocide instead of living up to a higher moral standard.
The result: