A far as forming a coalition is concerned, this should be the only qualifier. You're against the pillaging of the government by the ultra-wealthy and incompetent? You're in.
Just to prove the OP correct, no the *policies* were absolutely not the problem here. Too many people blamed Biden for inflation and unironically thought Haitians were eating people’s pets. Almost none of this is from the shit liberals and leftists have spent years fighting about.
You think history began in 2020, that’s your problem. Democrats have been implementing neoliberal bullshit since the 90’s when Bill Clinton ended welfare and signed NAFTA. Nice try though. Read some history.
There’s this thing called “willful ignorance” and liberals engage in it just as much as maga. You’ll forget or make excuses for everything a democrat does, just like maga does for their daddy Trump. Please stop.
Why do you think 1/3 of eligible voters don’t bother to vote? They can’t see a fundamental difference between the parties. Both parties get their money from the capitalist class. Both parties work for their billionaire donors. Wake the fuck up.
“Why do you think 1/3 of eligible voters don’t bother to vote?” Because they *never* have. Like bro, seriously, you think Trump won 2024 because of NAFTA and Obama not prosecuting Bush admin officials? WTF kind of bubble is that?
I do. Everyone I know does. Remember when Obama refused to investigate the Bush administration for war crimes? I do. Remember when Obama bailed out the banks instead of prosecuting them for financial crimes? I do. Just because you choose to forget, doesn’t mean the rest of us do.
The left and center-left neoliberals creating a cultish, worst-of-both-worlds system, together and in bickering, open the doors for the faster-moving, metasizing cancer of a fascist-imperial kleptocapitalism overseeing an obedient rapture cult. There’ll be post-mortem later— if we survive. Unity.
They know what’s it’s done to their cities and towns.
They know the current course has screwed them. So when Kamala doesn’t distance herself from the status quo, that has meaning with or with the correct definitions or terms.
This is allllll the democratic parties fault. Period point blank.
This is utterly delusional horseshit. NAFTA was signed during the first Clinton admin. The notion that this is why Harris lost to Trump in 2024, when it’s not even in effect anymore, makes no sense at all to anybody who spends more than two seconds thinking it through.
I don't understand how you work with a zionist authoritarian party like the dnc? They're literally zealots. As soon as they get what they want they'll be right back to attacking leftists, if you can even get them to stop.
You want us to pretend the Biden administration weren't war criminals?
And no, I just want us to fucking move on from it.
If we’ve decided to not build coalition with liberals then we absolutely need to start building with whoever else is out there to bring our numbers up.
Because again, if leftists alone could change the system then it should’ve been done already
And again, I'm just very curious how you build a coalition with people who benefit from the system, do performative acts, and then tell everyone to vote blue matter who.
I just don't know. I've tried having conversations and they just fly off at every criticism with Russia/China propaganda!
There are *some* liberals that I say “not going to help them don’t want to fucking talk to them” and then there are some that are opening up to the conversations leftists have been having for decades.
How do we capture those people if every other post is like “LIBERALS ARE ZIONIST B!TCHES”?
I hate to break it to you but every. Single. White. Leftist benefits from the system. Period.
Posting online about our moral purity is performative AF too. In fact, people think their shitposting is somehow THEIR CONTRIBUTION to the movement, which is the definition of performative activism.
That feels like colonized mindset, and I'm not trying to be rude. You start with community action that doesn't dabble in politics and never brings up voting. That's the base and it's happening right now in your community. People are buying direct from farmers. People are gardening and making art.
I definitely don’t need a lecture on what people are doing offline considering I’m suggesting that we stop our current ONLINE behavior of like waxing poetic about how we’re morally pure and liberals are satanic.
If any one group could’ve done it alone it would have been done already.
Are you saying that while fully understanding Fred Hampton and Huey P. Newton existed?
What you're preaching is compromise. We could have done that by selling out the Palestinians. Go be a liberal if you want. No one is denying your right to free association. You don't need our validation.
It's rather warranted. The democratic party knew how awful the Trump administration would be, and decided to run with the worst strategy possible: court right wingers at the expense of alienating their own base. After that failed, the response has been to rollover and do nothing to fight the GOP.
look, i'm already down here in the trenches dissolving into a puddle of gangrene while i beat some nineteen year old kid to death with a splintered log just because he has a different opinion about soviet domestic policy in 1920. what more do you want me to do?
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They know the current course has screwed them. So when Kamala doesn’t distance herself from the status quo, that has meaning with or with the correct definitions or terms.
This is allllll the democratic parties fault. Period point blank.
But hey cool graph I guess.
We need coalition, and I’m sorry but pissing off (or on) liberals isn’t going to build coalition with them.
And to liberals: IF YOUR LIBERALISM WORKED THEN WHY TF ARE WE HERE? So just chill out and work together
You want us to pretend the Biden administration weren't war criminals?
The sheer ENERGY devoted by leftists to talk about liberals is staggering. Like we could be using that for actually moving the needle.
If we’ve decided to not build coalition with liberals then we absolutely need to start building with whoever else is out there to bring our numbers up.
Because again, if leftists alone could change the system then it should’ve been done already
I just don't know. I've tried having conversations and they just fly off at every criticism with Russia/China propaganda!
How do we capture those people if every other post is like “LIBERALS ARE ZIONIST B!TCHES”?
Posting online about our moral purity is performative AF too. In fact, people think their shitposting is somehow THEIR CONTRIBUTION to the movement, which is the definition of performative activism.
If any one group could’ve done it alone it would have been done already.
What you're preaching is compromise. We could have done that by selling out the Palestinians. Go be a liberal if you want. No one is denying your right to free association. You don't need our validation.
I’m also a community activist and work in my hyper-local and state communities with way smarter leftists.
We’re all just people dude. And if you think liberals are beyond help or beyond saving or whatever THEN JUST MOVE ON.
I’m asking this in all seriousness. Either we work towards helping them change their minds, or we abandon them altogether.
If we choose the latter then WHO ELSE is there to build a sizable coalition with?
trueamerican.bsky:
"GINNY, I WANT YOU TO KNOW I'M NOT LISTENING TO YOU"
But now? The online Left has only doubled down on its idiocy, and who can blame them? Liberals clearly refusing to learn fucking ANYTHING. Bad sitch.