Next.js and Remix's focus on SSR has added cruft and complexity to the core React use case of building interactive apps. @tanstack.com is the antidote to this: an opinionated framework that actually helps you get stuff done rather than forcing you to optimise for someone else's e-commerce use case. - ThreadSky

thruflo.com • 87 days ago

Next.js and Remix's focus on SSR has added cruft and complexity to the core React use case of building interactive apps. @tanstack.com is the antidote to this: an opinionated framework that actually helps you get stuff done rather than forcing you to optimise for someone else's e-commerce use case.

Reposted from Tanner Linsley

For a long time I slightly resented Gatsby for the added pressure it gave me to stop building React Static, but I miss it now. The React ecosystem is overflowing with homogenous thinking lately and Gatsby’s decline didn’t help that.

🫡 Gatsby and @kyle.bricolage.io

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pablomayobre.bsky.social•85 days ago

Remix added cruft? It's just web standards... I like TanStack but I honestly don't see much difference other than the tight integration with TSQuery which is a nice to have

tannerlinsley.com•85 days ago

Your comment is telling that you've likely never actually tried TSR.

- Way better TS support. Way.
- Much needed URL state management APIs
- Built-in caching for the whole router
- And yes... integration with Query, but let's not inflate having a pluggable API design to more than it should be.

pablomayobre.bsky.social•85 days ago

Love what you all are doing with TSR and TS Start, I just prefer the stability and ecosystem RR built over the last 5 years. TSR is getting very close to that tipping point where it can make me question my decisions but it will not be easy

pablomayobre.bsky.social•85 days ago

- TS Support is fine in both nowadays
- Optional segments missing in TSR
- I know how to cache and how to use loaders and actions so nothing special there.
- Yes RR has less hand holding but I don't find that to be a bad thing
- TSR is too beta for my taste

pablomayobre.bsky.social•85 days ago

I'm gonna keep trying TSR but for now it's just trendy. The benefits are not that big of a deal

tannerlinsley.com•85 days ago

Fair enough. Enjoy!

jeroenpeeters.be•85 days ago

I just want ssg man, idk why libraries like remix make it so hard for me

enots227.bsky.social•59 days ago

What do you mean by opinionated? It gives you more options without constricting you. For example, file based routing gives you an easy pattern to follow, but if you really want to do something different it also gives you code based routing to let you control exactly what it does.

enots227.bsky.social•59 days ago

That's why I am so against where react and nextjs is going with the "use client", removes control, choice, and throws in logic you have no control over.

mrporato.bsky.social•86 days ago

I am really excited about tanstack start! A huge tanstack fan here

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