Might have something to do with a "Liberal" arming a genocidal state. And then being told to vote for the ones who allowed this because that orange orangutan is worse. Voting for the lesser of 2 evils is still voting for evil! And yet these same "libs" are blaming everyone else but themselves - ThreadSky

mofo75.bsky.social • 3 days ago

Might have something to do with a "Liberal" arming a genocidal state. And then being told to vote for the ones who allowed this because that orange orangutan is worse. Voting for the lesser of 2 evils is still voting for evil! And yet these same "libs" are blaming everyone else but themselves

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cmmu.bsky.social•3 days ago

In a democracy you always have to compromise. Being a one issue voter just means you often don’t get your one issue nor a whole heck of a lot more. It was extremely clear by what Trump said on the campaign trail that he was going to be a lot worse for the Palestinians and Gaza than Harris

mofo75.bsky.social•2 days ago

Its not just about 1 issue - theres a lot of other issues that I have with the Dems & republicans, but also the whole plutocratic system that masquerades as a democracy, and bombs, sanctions & destabilises its way across the world. BTW I'm not in the US, just a observer of US actions over many years

redjlt.bsky.social•2 days ago

This 100%. I even if it’s several issues, you’re always choosing between overall/total impact of the realistically available choices. Always.

arijojo.bsky.social•1 day ago

The GOP has been breaking the rules since Gingrich – and Trump turned it into an art form. Playing nice won’t save democracy. It’s time to fight back – hard.”
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metta4u.bsky.social•3 days ago

There’s plenty of blame to go around, but unfortunately, this was a binary choice. And the choice was clear. So for those who voted for other than Harris to struggle, responsibility is pure delusion. By not voting for her, they voted for the erasure of Gaza.

mofo75.bsky.social•3 days ago

If there's only a hair's breadth between Dems and Repubs, then it says more about your political system that the only choice you have is those 2.

metta4u.bsky.social•3 days ago

That’s always been such a ridiculous argument. There’s an awful lot of difference between the two. Only one party is trying to erase trans people, repeal, gay marriage, and torpedo women’s rights. Only one party rails against equality.

mofo75.bsky.social•3 days ago

Sorry, not ridiculous - do you deny there was inequality while the Dems were in power? Yes, Trump and his Maga cult are worse. But the dems are no angels, especially when they are also in hock to the MIC. Only a few like Sanders, Stein and the squad are the real trailblazers.

ba55fr33k.bsky.social•3 days ago

so you know, thats the exact same rhetoric zionists use to excuse the israeli Genocide of Palestinians..

wave a rainbow flag and suddenly that excuses killing children for not being Jewish?

pretty weak

alicetawhai.bsky.social•2 days ago

An ability to see the big picture is so important. A non vote was a vote for the orange orangutan because of the way electoral system is set up. Not voting was a vote for the far worse of the two evils. If things were bad why would you act in a way that ensured that they got worse

mofo75.bsky.social•2 days ago

Tell that to a Gazan who's been at the receiving end of Biden supplied bombs

alicetawhai.bsky.social•2 days ago

You’re completely missing the point and that summarises the problem in a nut shell

mofo75.bsky.social•2 days ago

Sorry, but the problem is more deep rooted. A plutocracy where vested interests buy both sides of the aisle. Granted Trump is worse, but as I often say, a knife stuck 4 inches in you might technically be better than one stuck 6 inches, but you've still got a knife in you. THAT is the problem

shreddertc.bsky.social•2 days ago

So what’s the viable solutions you’re working toward? Because what happened recently not only made it demonstrably worse for Palestinians, but also put a leader immune to shame and reason into the wh. Fighting one fire is much easier than fighting 100.

mofo75.bsky.social•2 days ago

And unlike the J6 "protestors" at least your cause would be legitimate

mofo75.bsky.social•2 days ago

Organise, entrench, then followed by direct action. If need be, armed insurrection. After all the oath does state enemies foriegn and domestic. You've already had a revolution and civil war. Maybe now is the time for another. Sorry to be so drastic, but these are desperate times

mofo75.bsky.social•2 days ago

Using your fire analogy, if you focus on fighting 1 fire, the others continue to spread. Personally I believe the system is the issue and needs overturning. Playing by the rules, as the Dems did, just allowed Trump to consolidate. They even censured 1 of their own. Thats not a system worth defending

jacquik63.bsky.social•2 days ago

the orange orangutan just threatened the PEOPLE of Gaza with genocide if hostages aren't released. not Hamas- THE PEOPLE. Perhaps Israel should not have been attacked in the first place. What was THAT result could it have something to do with Gaza being attacked?

' released

mofo75.bsky.social•2 days ago

Aided and abetted by both Dems and Republicans

jacquik63.bsky.social•2 days ago

What was aided by both Democrats and Republicans/

mofo75.bsky.social•2 days ago

The warmongering over the last 20 years in the middle east and support for the Israeli occupation

mofo75.bsky.social•2 days ago

Ah, Oct 7th again. Try and look at what Palestinians have been facing on multiple orders of magnitude worse than oct 7th FOR THE LAST 60 FUCKING YEARS

ba55fr33k.bsky.social•2 days ago

100 years

gjzig.bsky.social•3 days ago

I always love responses like this because it doesn’t matter. Be mad but everyone knew what was coming by letting this administration take control of the government. So now I get to just enjoy the fall of America as we knew it with everyone else.

mofo75.bsky.social•3 days ago

America was already falling when corporations got their claws into your "democracy" to finance the warmongering and "do as I say, not as I do" attitude

gjzig.bsky.social•2 days ago

Yup, citizens united was a pretty stupid decision which has screwed over the working class and eroded our institutions. Not going to disagree. Like I said, I’m along for this dumbass ride, like it or not.

ba55fr33k.bsky.social•3 days ago

..been a long time coming

The World will be a safer place when america fails

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emarbach.bsky.social•3 days ago

Do I sense a Russian troll on this platform? Please go back to X they miss you there.

gjzig.bsky.social•2 days ago

I see you didn’t skim my profile. That’s okay, exchanges on social platforms are rarely productive anymore. Bluesky is just as bad of an echo chamber as X is and both rarely allow for discussion. If someone has an opinion that isn’t 100% the same, must be a troll.

emarbach.bsky.social•1 day ago

Can you elaborate further on your statement: The World will be a safer place when america fails?
I’m really curious about this opinion of yours.

nassdhoe.bsky.social•2 days ago

Biden was a centrist.
Literally had a 50-year track record as a Centrist.

Calling everyone who isn't MAGA a "lib" is a flawed narrative.

mofo75.bsky.social•2 days ago

The problem is everything has shifted rightward politically in the last 30 years that todays centerists would be considered right wing. That is the reality you are ignoring

nassdhoe.bsky.social•2 days ago

Haaa.
You went from calling Biden a liberal to a fASciST to right wing. Your logical fallacies are as incoherent as your foul-mouthed rants.

mofo75.bsky.social•2 days ago

And I did not once use the term fascist. So clearly your observational skills need work along with your debating skills

mofo75.bsky.social•2 days ago

And posting an image like that actually highlights your incoherence. Because you do not understand the term relative. The Victorians had a medical term for people with your intellectual capabilities. What was that term? Oh that's it..."Moron"

nassdhoe.bsky.social•2 days ago

BWAHAHAHA!
Four unanswered tantrums!
Clearly, I touched a nerve!
Seethe on, champ.

mofo75.bsky.social•2 days ago

Awww, projecting again. Cry away, won't change your shit debating skills and even shittier memes!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

mofo75.bsky.social•2 days ago

Utter dickhead who cant even read properly. If you'd cared to read what I wrote, it's that TODAY'S "liberals" shifted to the right compared to 30 years ago. But you call yourself liberals when it suits you, or centerists when you want to be seen as responsible. Your arguing is on a par with MAGA

ba55fr33k.bsky.social•2 days ago

Correct 👍

Compared with politics around the World, Biden & the Democrats would be considered 'right wing'

kevinfishgerald.bsky.social•3 days ago

What about literally every other issue... What about womens rights? What about LGBTQ rights? What about the environment? What about the war in Ukraine? What about science? What about healthcare? What about one side supporting democracy and this admin supporting fascism? What about project 2025....

mofo75.bsky.social•3 days ago

And you think that your political system guarantees that? The only thing both support is the power of Wall St & warmongering. Black people were still being killed by cops under Obama & Biden. Women still earn less than men on average. Science? well seems that the bulk of R & D is in weapons

ba55fr33k.bsky.social•3 days ago

the whole country is rotten, best it crashes to rubble completely & start fresh

mofo75.bsky.social•3 days ago

Pretty much, yeah. There is no way that a system which is a plutocracy and not a democracy will change just by voting. Voting under the current system gives the illusion of choice rather than any actual choice. Witness the neo-libs moaning about Trump, yet cannot see their role in this

kevinfishgerald.bsky.social•3 days ago

You deflected all of those issues I mentioned becuase you are aware (whether subconscious or not) that one choice could have lessened the suffering of many and this admin seeks to increase it. This is a rationalization of your brain to remove blame from yourself for your own inaction on Nov. 5th

mofo75.bsky.social•3 days ago

Nope, I answered those points you raised, but interestingly, you've not responded to them other than pointing the finger back. It's you with the cognitive dissonance and inability to see that cosmetic change without meaningful change just perpetuates the broken system

ba55fr33k.bsky.social•3 days ago

Tgats quite the Cope bro...

kevinfishgerald.bsky.social•3 days ago

It isn't 'my' political system. Im one person who does not possess a direct line to the president or the ability to change our system of governance. I just made a pros & cons list of Trump vs Kamala and she was objectively the better choice on every single issue I care about.

mofo75.bsky.social•3 days ago

Then the only way forward is to destroy the system and not vote for the lesser of 2 evils. You had a revolution and a civil war before. Do it again

kevinfishgerald.bsky.social•3 days ago

This is the most violent call to action there is. If your goal is truly to end human suffering, then do the bare minimum of civil duty before telling people to resort to soemthjng so terrible.

mofo75.bsky.social•3 days ago

Bare minimum of civil duty? In a system that is blatantly for the rich and powerful? Sorry, that is either wilful ignorance, chronic naivety or ivory tower thinking

ba55fr33k.bsky.social•3 days ago

literally half of voters supported tRump bro ... they want all this shitty stuff to happen

that is your real problem to tackle.. this infighting is a distraction

kevinfishgerald.bsky.social•3 days ago

Then stop accusing the dems of being just as bad as Trump and unite behind leaders who actually stand for some good things.

mofo75.bsky.social•3 days ago

Its the Dems are are blowing a gasket at those who protested. Take ownership of their role in this fiasco and then we can move forward. Because if the Dems come back in and it is more of the same, then you have learned nothing

ba55fr33k.bsky.social•3 days ago

Dems are just as bad as tRump, they just hide it behind rainbow flags like their heroes in 'israel'

kevinfishgerald.bsky.social•3 days ago

You have been radicalized to believe this and all I can do is tell you this is incorrect. Nothing in life will ever be perfect. Sorry to be the one to tell you this.

gg-rn.bsky.social•2 days ago

I blame Hamas for instigating on 10/7 and I blame Netanyahu for war crimes( special place in hell for him, his enablers).
I believe Biden and Blinken worked hard on ceasefire but when chants of “from the river to the sea” prevail, no way US is not going to arm Israel.
Resulting in heinous Trump.

mofo75.bsky.social•2 days ago

How is chanting from the river to the sea anything other than a call for freedom? Biden did fuck all before Oct 7th and did even less after. Trump is even worse, but it just shows how the corporate pro israel narrative has filtered into many peoples thinking. This did not start on 10/7.

stralyafella.bsky.social•3 days ago

So you are really happy that Gaza will be turned into a billionaires Mediterranean paradise and the palisinians are expelled. Trump will still arm Israel.

mofo75.bsky.social•3 days ago

Ah deflecting.....Gaza will still be a prison no matter if its the Dems or Trump. Re-read my analogy. And then decide if your spineless reps in the Democrapic party are worth listening to

ba55fr33k.bsky.social•3 days ago

you mean as opposed to Biden Vetoes at the UN and daily shipments of Bombs used to flatten the whole Strip, killing tens of thousands of Children for not being Jewish?

mofo75.bsky.social•3 days ago

Preach it sister!! ✊ ✊ ✊