I never wanted to insinuate the opposite, if anything the right might be even more susceptible to it, otherwise the MAGA movement wouldn't have taken complete control of the conservative movement
I had no idea Rittenhouse murdered Health Insurance execs. On the meantime Density is calling republicans fascists after years of saying that there was no such thing as a fascist https://youtu.be/oc775dgjRFI?si=7Ww6bFGhSm_Fwupb
The irony is rich, isn’t it? One moment it’s “justice failed us,” and the next it’s “Luigi is a hero!” Guess justice is only “justice” when it fits the narrative. Consistency? Who needs it when you’ve got selective outrage to keep life interesting.
Well no shit destiny one killed a CEO (who has inadvertently killed thousands probably hundreds of thousands of people) and Kyle killed some random civvies at a protest.
I condemn both, but the moral distinction I think is that Luigi's crime is of lesser concern because he was a vigilante taking out someone who was supporting a system of greed and exploitation. While Kyle was just a misinformed right winger looking to start trouble.
If you’re begging the question you’re not engaging with this conversation in good faith. I expect better from you. This take gives Ben Shapiro. Engagement baiting at its worst. It’s not a good look on you.
If a Nazi identifies that 2+2=4, that is not the issue I am disagreeing with them on. There are many on the right that identify that US health insurance is a racket, where they take your money and then leave you to die if you cost them more than you profit them.
Should the left ally with the right to murder the people "we" agree should die?
Supporting a person who murdered someone because you disliked them is a bad thing
Who does the right dislikes, who will be the next one to be murdered? It's gonna be us
Well i don't think murdering ceo will do anything productive, so no, I don't think they should die. The system needs to be fixed, chopping off heads didn't fix anything and made things much worse for several decades (circa French Revolution and Napoleon)
Is that supposed to highlight hypocrisy? The details of each case have very little in common aside from people dying, so the implication that principles are being contradicted is kinda dumb no matter your stance. As useless as observing "people who are pro revolutionary war are anti J6."
I'd argue that a decent part of the Luigi worship comes from the fact that they're parading him around like he's already guilty with "the establishment" calling him a de facto terrorist despite not having a trial yet. It mirrors Rittenhouse in a way, being declared innocent before his trial, etc.
This has been the creepiest fucking news story of my lifetime. Everything about it is disturbing: the dehumanizing of the CEO, the cheering over his cowardly and unprincipled murder, the salivating over this ugly unhinged psycho, the insane hypocrisy, et cetera. Dunno why I expect more of lefties.
Situations are not even comparable? Dumbass kid crosses state lines when a riot is going on is not even close to someone executing a shitstain CEO. One situation is based and the other is not.
Was more pointing out he was fucking stupid for getting himself into that situation in the first place. So i guess they are similar just that Kyle was retarded thinking he wasn't going to be confronted and Luigi specifically went looking to kill someone.
Whether you think he is a hero or a villain is irrelevant. His goal was to start a conversation, and so here we are. It's unfortunate that he felt he had to resort to violence, but the conversation has been stymied for far too long by the ones who have benefited from the health insurance duplicity.
Rittenhouse put himself in that situation on purpose. It was part of a plan. He isn't innocent and could just as easily have killed someone else because the killing was the point.
Luigi put himself in that situation on purpose. It was part of a plan. He isn't innocent and could just as easily have killed someone else because the killing was the point.
By arming himself and going out of his way to insert himself into a chaotic situation with the intention of antagonizing and shooting someone at random with the excuse of self-defense.
How could we possibly tell if the guy carrying the exact weapon and a manifesto is the person that committed the murder. Oh the injustice of jumping to conclusions.
Go ahead and identify this gun for me, or find a SINGLE reputable source that can identify this gun and confirm 100% without a doubt that it was the one that Luigi was ALLEGEDLY carrying.
You can't go off of NYPD "random cop said" bullshit during a criminal investigation and court hearing because they aren't providing you with all of the facts, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE COURT HEARINGS. Sick of you drooling morons flouting the justice system because you have strong vibes or something
You think his supporters believe Luigi has a valid self defense case? What are you saying here? They like him because the believe he is guilty of murder because they support the murder
And if Rittenhouse wasnt in Kenosha hed be in prison right now. Lucky for us they're charging Luigi with "terrorism" so he'll probably end up with the same decision. In the meantime I seem to recall Density saying there was no such thing as a fascist. https://youtu.be/onuL1wEtGg0?si=shkZUh3HfF19w1Qe
True. I admit it. I cheer for Luke Skywalker when he defeats the Emperor and I jeer at the death star when it destroys a planet. Is it hypocrisy? Maybe. Are my values intact? Ayyup.
Kyle and Luigi both went hunting. Their mistake was murder. Luigi chose one person and killed that one person. Kyle went looking for people to kill. I like Luigi better than Kyle because of who he killed and that he stopped at 1. I don't like Kyle because he wasn't careful and ended up killing 2.
I think death is tragic. I think that it’s somewhat less tragic if it is in the name of saving innocent lives. Putting a relative values on the loss of life of some protester vs a CEO seems random. You seem to imply that my valuation of life is biased. It is, towards loss of innocent life.
Sure. People that are dying of a disease that, in this country, requires expensive treatment. Kids with cancer for instance. I suppose that would constitute an innocent life. The fact that Trump stole from charities benefitting child cancer would seem to be fucking evil, by way of example.
Can it really tho? I mean you are talking about the failure of the leading country in the world, and I'm pretty sure its not going to go well for other countries if that happens.
MAGA be like “we shouldn’t be involved in the world”
Oh, would you rather China? Have you no interest in world’s reserve currency? What will you make of the power vacuum if we pull out of NATO and fucking everything else because “America First”, which was originally funded by Germany in the 1930’s?
I get where you’re coming from, but the kid was putting out dumpster fires and giving minor medical aid to hurt protesters, I could be very off though as it’s been a minute.
If anything, he got the idea to bring his firearm from his friends and/or family.
He didn't actually put out any dumpster fires, he just moved one that was previously lit.
He claimed he went there to aid people injured in the protests, and to defend a gas station and car dealership, but it's not stated anywhere he actually provided medical aid to anybody.
That fact-check does state he headed to that car dealership with a fire extinguisher so imo I believe those intentions were good. But thank you for the fact-check, nice to know these things against after its been a minute.
I don't doubt he had any good intentions when it came to counter-protesters, the gas station, and the car dealership - I just find it hard to believe he had any good intentions for the protesters/rioters. It seems very "my side/their side". An AR is a strange personal defense weapon choice.
again, I am not certain what level of "trouble" he was looking for... but the idea that he was being benevolent is silly, just watch the vid some days before of him talking... his friend talking to KR day of about medical, maybe he was benevolent, but not KR
Similarly, it is the case that Trump is almost certainly legally in the clear for trying to do a coup but that is a separate thing from how we should look at his actions.
Personally I think both Luigi and Rittenhouse should be condemned.
you are missing the concept of false aquittal, which applies to Trump but not Rittenhouse... as for Luigi, I agree he should be charged for murder, but the terrorism charge is insane
Technically trump is not in the clear. None of his court cases denied that he did a coup nor did they give him the authority to do so they just made evidence inadmissible, and now that he's president again the DoJ can't/won't go after him.
It's everything that led up to this self defense that shouldn't have happened in the first place. I'm soying out because Rittenhouse is practically a folk hero for DGG just because Destiny doesn't like the left's reaction to him, Rittenhouse can go eat a dick.
Destiny just saw that it was super obviously self defense even in the weird case that lefties made up in their head. The rittenhouse case made so many lefties prove that they’re just cultists. Nothing Kyle did leading up to the shooting justifies trying to murder him btw
you weren't there, you don't understand the context of the moment by moment actions that happened on that night leading up to the self defense, we just have the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, I know for a fact anyone in a high tension situation like that would be weirded out by a kid brandishing an AR
We actually watched a lot of the moment to moment happenings, it was almost all on video including the ambush of Kyle by rosenbaum and ziminski. Would you be weirded out enough to attack some person open carrying a gun during a riot?
I got to 4 minutes before I realized this video is a waste of time, Destiny probably thought debating you was a waste of time so it makes sense he dodged you
Ok. The debate was to on the accepted historical narrative that George W Bush cheated in Florida in 2000. Feel free to debunk anything in this clip https://youtu.be/ZaTkKkGBVtQ?si=mxiBnFb5R2R3nPAK
The issue is that they're framing what the CEO did as "he murdered thousands of people". When you frame someone's actions in such a bad faith way it's easy to be okay with what Luigi did.
'Killing people for a living' would make you a hitman. It's a stupid thing to claim but that's the argument that is being made right now, that he killed people for a living.
And now those same people are string a conspiracy theory about the judge b/c her husband formerly worked for Pfizer. They’re claiming their stock portfolio makes the judge bias and should recuse. JFC Americans have lost their GD minds
It's almost as if those were two entirely different cases moron. Aren't you guys going around calling republicans "fascists" after spending a year saying no one should call republicans fascists ? https://youtu.be/oc775dgjRFI?si=KssIYz8ZTXHrIxdP
AVERAGE AMERICAN LIFE EXPECTANCY=77
Maxine Waters = 86
Rose DeLoro = 81
Gerry Connolly = 75, has Cancer
Richard Neil = 75
Frank Pallone = 73
BIDEN = 82 👉Ran AGAINST his word
RBG = Retired/Died 87
Dianne Feinstein = Retired/Died 90
I think the difference is that Rittenhouse and the guy he killed were part of the oppressed of a perceived oppressive system.
While for Luigi he went beyond and killed a perceived oppressor.
Why does this have anything to do with oppression?
Rittenhouse shot 2 people who were threatening his life.
Luigi killed a man who is in charge of a company that exists in the overly-complex American healthcare system, which can have legitimate reasons to deny claims.
Rittenhouse was defending his own life. He was threatening other people's lives and when someone tried to stop him he shot them. Just like Brian Thompson was threatening people's lives and someone stopped him. https://youtu.be/bwuMpuwpIMI?si=d2-LQIIcAXEKW2_k
Rittenhouse never went out to threaten other’s lives, or at the very least you will never be able to prove that. Fact of the matter is while jogging around with a gun, he was asking if protestors needed medical aid.
"Medico". He couldn't even pronounce the word much less offer help. He didn't have a first aid kit. He had a rifle and the presence of that rifle was a threat.
Rittenhouse went to Kenosha thinking there wouldn't be any concenquence.
Mangione went to Manhattan knowing full well his life was going to be forfeit.
The charge is terrorism you moron. What he did does not fit the legal definition of terrorism. That means he's not guilty. In the meantime yr man here spent a year defending republicans, claiming that there was no such thing as fascism. Why aren't you calling him out? https://youtu.be/oc775dgjRFI?si=IgdRFiAbxK-rHn9A
1. Murder and murder as an act of terrorism are separate charges, as long as we agree that he is the person in the video he is certainly guilty of murder
2. If one writes a manifesto and then commits murder with the intent of spreading their manifesto...
The legal definition of terrorism is the intent to instill fear in the public for a political end: 1) The public isnt in fear, theyre enthused 2) he hasn't revealed his political ends 3) Jan 6 rioters (yr people) did exactly that and weren't charged with terrorism. Jury nullification.
Lefty's inconsistent? No way.. but at least it destroys your narrative that "only if he wasn't white they would cheer him" narrative. It's just populist brainrot at the end of the day.
"What it means to you"? That's not how definitions work. And don't try to distract. He said that trump was not a fascist and now he says he is. The burden is on him (and you) to explain that walk back.
So what experience happened to Density to make pull a complete 180 besides the consistent trouncing he took over the genocide in Gaza ? Because if a guy makes a living debating, losing debates might be bad for business so he might need a few easy wins.
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https://youtu.be/bwuMpuwpIMI?si=d2-LQIIcAXEKW2_k
https://youtu.be/oc775dgjRFI?si=7Ww6bFGhSm_Fwupb
https://youtu.be/oc775dgjRFI?si=IgdRFiAbxK-rHn9A
The guy isn't even some leftist supporting medicare for all
The far left will support you so long as you kill the people they dislike and you are reasonably attractive, your own reasons and ideology be damned
The far right will support you so long as you kill the people they dislike and you worship God King Trump
I never wanted to insinuate the opposite, if anything the right might be even more susceptible to it, otherwise the MAGA movement wouldn't have taken complete control of the conservative movement
https://youtu.be/oc775dgjRFI?si=7Ww6bFGhSm_Fwupb
They got the death sentence pretty quick. No trial, no rewriting of history... But mangione...?
I thought that if there’s a Nazi and 9 other people at the table, there's 10 Nazis at the table
Supporting a person who murdered someone because you disliked them is a bad thing
Who does the right dislikes, who will be the next one to be murdered? It's gonna be us
This is a bad choice road for the world to take
https://youtu.be/hsR_NLoXZfg?si=-Fnz3zuoxn6mPjGO
https://youtu.be/oc775dgjRFI?si=IgdRFiAbxK-rHn9A
Makes sense to me tbh.
That said, there is overlap with other groups that also partake in this viewpoint. America is a violent country!
You lack a moral system so of course none of this makes sense to you
Luigi Mangione literally executed someone because he didn't like them.
Good to know.
take care..
Because those were the ones being described as "peaceful, but fiery".
Jffccccc
If he was looking for randos to shot the dead would have been in the double digits
I think he was and still is a fascist little shit but lying about the facts of the matter is meaningless
Which of these don't apply to Luigi?
Which is exactly what he ended up using the weapon for, because a few rioters decided they wanted to murder some kid.
https://youtu.be/oc775dgjRFI?si=PidmyC_8W6P5cfyY
Which means it is murder.
By acting as if Luigi is already guilty you subvert justice and the court system and give more credibility to Luigi's supporters.
Luigi killed 1, the CEO killed many more.
Show me where you condemned the CEO before this happened.
https://youtu.be/onuL1wEtGg0?si=shkZUh3HfF19w1Qe
Hol up. That is more evidence eof intentional murder, right?
Cool thanks.
because if you aren't maybe stop nitpicking for false equivocations
and if you are... maybe stop posting?
Lol. Maybe grow up a little and see that murder is bad.
Jfc Americans are so cooked..
My system is not.
And yours is just full of extremely dumb people, evidently.... Which explains these stupid little contrarian takes
(Although, for the record it doesn't surprise me that you think a person needs to live in a place to know anything about it..)
And I have lived in the us, and china and the UK.
Oh, would you rather China? Have you no interest in world’s reserve currency? What will you make of the power vacuum if we pull out of NATO and fucking everything else because “America First”, which was originally funded by Germany in the 1930’s?
If anything, he got the idea to bring his firearm from his friends and/or family.
He claimed he went there to aid people injured in the protests, and to defend a gas station and car dealership, but it's not stated anywhere he actually provided medical aid to anybody.
In fact, it was a wise decision, as he ended up using his gun for EXACTLY the justified purpose he said he had it for
Wouldn’t you?
Whether what he did not carrying any consequences is moral is another question. In some other western legal systems he would not have gone free.
Personally I think both Luigi and Rittenhouse should be condemned.
https://youtu.be/onuL1wEtGg0?si=shkZUh3HfF19w1Qe
cool vape though!
https://youtu.be/ZaTkKkGBVtQ?si=mxiBnFb5R2R3nPAK
That's the whole point.
If you pick and chose hills... You're a pussy.
And maybe the law should change if it leads to bad outcomes like this, it doesn't have to be set in stone
Maybe the law should change. Work on that instead.
Although, maybe just start with your blatently stupid gun laws over there. I imagine that would be a baby-level start.
In the meantime, speaking of hypocrisy
https://youtu.be/oc775dgjRFI?si=KssIYz8ZTXHrIxdP
/s
https://youtu.be/oc775dgjRFI?si=KssIYz8ZTXHrIxdP
Maxine Waters = 86
Rose DeLoro = 81
Gerry Connolly = 75, has Cancer
Richard Neil = 75
Frank Pallone = 73
BIDEN = 82 👉Ran AGAINST his word
RBG = Retired/Died 87
Dianne Feinstein = Retired/Died 90
AOC, Maxwell Frost ...WTF DEMS???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEiV0VV6CKA
While for Luigi he went beyond and killed a perceived oppressor.
Rittenhouse shot 2 people who were threatening his life.
Luigi killed a man who is in charge of a company that exists in the overly-complex American healthcare system, which can have legitimate reasons to deny claims.
This is not analogous.
https://youtu.be/bwuMpuwpIMI?si=d2-LQIIcAXEKW2_k
Lower-class vs lower-class.
Lower-class vs higher-class.
https://youtu.be/onuL1wEtGg0?si=shkZUh3HfF19w1Qe
Mangione went to Manhattan knowing full well his life was going to be forfeit.
Is he not trying to escape any consequence?
https://youtu.be/oc775dgjRFI?si=IgdRFiAbxK-rHn9A
1. Murder and murder as an act of terrorism are separate charges, as long as we agree that he is the person in the video he is certainly guilty of murder
2. If one writes a manifesto and then commits murder with the intent of spreading their manifesto...
3. In both cases whether he is guilty or not will be decided in trial, not by the public sentiment
P.S. lmao you tried to peddle your 100 views video as proof that destiny ever said that there's no such thing as fascism
Honestly, kinda cringe
I touch myself thinking about CEO deaths every night before bed.
I'm doing it now.
https://youtu.be/L8_IOnFyHlM?si=sD-t2bFQ4kOgF4Zq
Yeah, the groundswell of support for murder is disconcerting. I wonder how much of it is astroturf, too. On the internet there's no way to know.
People are angry, people are dumb, it's a dangerous combination.
https://youtu.be/onuL1wEtGg0?si=koJnRdvm6pnSUfFm
Define your terms so I know what we are talking about
Second, This is your source of truth? A self described comedy channel?
Want to regroup and try again?