I’d like NATO to propose halting weapon supplies if Russia agrees to an immediate ceasefire. This could push Russia to end the war and allow NATO to use the ceasefire to integrate Ukraine into the EU/NATO while offering serious support/protection. 1/2 - ThreadSky

thorbodon.bsky.social • 91 days ago

I’d like NATO to propose halting weapon supplies if Russia agrees to an immediate ceasefire. This could push Russia to end the war and allow NATO to use the ceasefire to integrate Ukraine into the EU/NATO while offering serious support/protection. 1/2

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thorbodon.bsky.social•91 days ago

Diplomacy is the only way to end this war. I’m tired of hearing that Putin won’t negotiate. It might be true, but the same people are outraged when Scholz tries to call him. Again, how do you think this war can end otherwise? 2/2

enormo.bsky.social•91 days ago

Because Scholz, Biden and Macron repeatedly tried to negotiate with Putin, both, before he raided Ukraine and afterwards with no results at all. He isn't even considering Germany a serious negotiation partner (he might be right on that one). 1/2

enormo.bsky.social•91 days ago

And Putin sure as hell wont agree to a ceasefire if it means what remains of Ukraine joins the NATO. In fact he stated NATO membership of Ukraine is a red line. so what is your strategy if he wont make concessions or if just isn't open for negotiation as has been the case for the last 3 years? 2/2

thorbodon.bsky.social•91 days ago

I agree that Ukraine joining NATO is ambitious, but a ceasefire deal should appeal to Russia, and avoiding constant bombardment is in Kyiv’s interest too. What alternative do you see especially with Trump in the White House?

enormo.bsky.social•91 days ago

Its not ambitious its delusional. A ceasefire without NATO membership would be pointless though. Best alternative would have been full-hearted support of Ukraine when they stood a real chance. This war is very expensive for Putin. economy, demography, reputation all went down the shitter.1/2

thorbodon.bsky.social•91 days ago

If a ceasefire without NATO membership is pointless, but NATO membership is “delusional,” doesn’t that mean this war will never end? A ceasefire is never pointless, even a one-week ceasefire could save thousands of lives. How is that pointless?

enormo.bsky.social•91 days ago

Catalyzing this decline to actually force Putin to negotiate is the best option imo. But we are failing at that and now we have to hope that Putin is willing to negotiate and that Trump will manage to get a fair deal for Ukraine. But as long as Putin is unwilling I say give Ukraine everything. 2/2

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