The US wouldn't even have to be involved if Ukraine had their own nukes.
Oh wait...
They DID have but agreed to give them up (in the 90s) in trade for the United States commitment to defend them, in perpetuity, against Russian aggression.
As I recall, the agreement said nothing about payback.
Maybe I remember the agreement incorrectly, but I remember thinking, at the time, "woaha, a fledgling country giving up its greatest power to protect itself (in a time of regional disruption) seems risky."
This is fucked up! Invasion and annexation are always wrong. If Siberians want to secede from russia and join the US, fine, we can go from there, but no leaders get to "make a deal" without the free and fair and uncoerced input of the residents.
The Ukraine is perfectly within its rights to convince our feebleminded dictator that it might happen. Russia is a genocidal aggressor and deserves invasion just as much as Hitler's Germany did.
You dont know Zelenskyy. He will never ever suggest invading and occupying another sovereign country. Siberia not an actual threat to the US.. The Kursk operation is purely in self-defense and is clearly temporary.
Zelenskyy has too much character to manipulate through lies and deceit.
Maybe Budanov could do it then. Manipulating Trump through lies and deceit is really the only way to deal with him at all - that is after all how he treats himself. And the Ukraine is the whole time using deceit against the enemy as a matter of course during warfare.
O/c it might not be effective - that is a far better element. But I don't think there is a moral argument against splitting two evil dictators (Putin and Trump) if it is at all possible.
Trump is going to flip out. He can’t comprehend that Z would stand up to him while seeking to secure a genuine better future for his country because Trump would never do that. He’s already sold out to russia with nothing on the line
Oh, Trump isn't going to be sending troops to Ukraine to "fight Russia", he'd be sending US troops in to rape Ukraine of the natural resources in the half he hasn't already agreed to let Russia have. Only way to stop this is marching UK & French troops in to create a human bulwark, right now
Nah, he's a Russian shill but the US isn't going to invade Ukraine. Hoping Britain, Poland, etc start sending bodies. Big enough slap in the face by his "friend" might send US troops as well
I hope the rest of NATO continues to support Ukraine, even if the US seems to be breaking its promises. I also hope this is legit what he said - Zelensky would right to call it out like that. Messaging is important, don't just let wannabe dictators like Trump make their own narrative.
Honestly, would it be worth the paper it's written on? Say it was signed. Even if it immediately led to complete victory over Russia, the first thing Ukraine would do is tear that agreement up bc it was signed under duress.
Even Churchill would have thought twice and not issued such a proclamation unless his back was against the wall.
Where is the original source? It is so gutsy it is hard to believe. I hope it pays off. It deserves to. Both for the brave man and the ukrainian people.
His back was also against the wall. Pretty much the same. US did not want to get involved and Brits were up against Nazis (and Soviet Union) alone. Anyway, was more about the defiant stance and inspiration to HIS people.
He did have to give up almost all of his ambitions regarding the empire and postwar world order and order in Europe.
But in defence of the US they gave a lot more back then, every once of both blood and treasure. And at the beginning of WW2 Britain had a colonial empire fundamentally at odds..
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Oh wait...
They DID have but agreed to give them up (in the 90s) in trade for the United States commitment to defend them, in perpetuity, against Russian aggression.
As I recall, the agreement said nothing about payback.
Stop ALL exports and payments to the US until our government honors its commitments. Period!
I know that Zelenskyy decides what’s best for the people and state of Ukraine
If he found that the deal is not good for 🇺🇦, so be it
I’m with Zelenskyy and Ukrainians, not the nazis running the Unazied Stares who whore for russia
It's also more than what Germany and Japan capitulated upon after WW2...
Trump is insane
https://bsky.app/profile/shaunc.bsky.social/post/3lhtve4ws6k2u
The Ukraine is perfectly within its rights to convince our feebleminded dictator that it might happen. Russia is a genocidal aggressor and deserves invasion just as much as Hitler's Germany did.
Zelenskyy has too much character to manipulate through lies and deceit.
Btw… how do I become a Ukrainian citizen? Asking for a friend….
They need compensation as well..
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No wonder why they hate him a lot. They will never become as brave as him.
In case there is any doubt: https://youtu.be/cfnuHrUa44Y?si=sXyXTb4-oHG_8RSJ
nothing to lose at this point
shots fired!
they wanted him to bow down to the orange man and he said fuck that noise
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Where is the original source? It is so gutsy it is hard to believe. I hope it pays off. It deserves to. Both for the brave man and the ukrainian people.
But in defence of the US they gave a lot more back then, every once of both blood and treasure. And at the beginning of WW2 Britain had a colonial empire fundamentally at odds..