Worse, they are propagandized in a lot of instances. Its like negative education. It makes you dumber than where you started. Like Fox News viewers were known to be less informed than people who watched no news. This is just a bigger example. These people are getting their brains melted by Rogan.
You mean the same system that 19 states have declared war on, weakening licensing systems, loading curriculum with political bullshit and banning books and words that dare encourage critical thinking?
Not blaming schools or teachers. Consider: For 25 years, private foundations, fed and state govts have poured money (and testing) into math, literacy, and science. At all levels, social studies and history have suffered (esp k-5). Yet that's where ppl learn critical thinking and new lit.
Skills are things you learn in school too, and yet in this decades-long age of school accountability, I know of few tests that look at the skills to distinguish rhetoric from reality. Sadly, we've learned that what isn't tested/measured isn't taught.
That’s the most annoying part. You literally don’t need media spin to make Trump look bad, listen to the shit he says entirely of his own volition that they defend
“They’re eating the cats, they’re eating the dogs”
‘Ok well what he meant there is he’s going to implement some insightful policy..’
It pains me that this is reality. The utter stupidity. Even the idiotic fashion has come true with Crocs. Literally chosen as part of the costume design for their ridiculous look.
Mike Judge, wherever you are, please make a sequel and make it stop 🥺🙏🐊
This past election does make me yearn for technocracy. Why yes I would like to be governed by people who know how things work. No I doubt think reality TV stars who can rizz up the idiots should float into power through "entertainment value" or whatever they voted on.
There's always been stupid people.. the problem is the opposition, there is none. Where an opposing ideology, party & platform should be is instead occupied by the democrats
Agreed. Isn’t that their goal? I mean, they’re not even covert about it anymore. Trump’s conservatives and Project 2025 actively aim to defund public schools.
This is something we can work with. If people are low information, incapable of understanding macroeconomics and need to see politicians fighting for them, we have been running the wrong kinds of campaigns and can run different ones.
On some level, reacting to this with despair and the impulse to give up is an understandable emotional reaction. But it isn't an informed one. In order words, it's a smaller version of the emotional reaction we're judging here and if we give up or refuse to change tact then it's just as harmful.
Believing that you can reason with people who cannot be reasoned with is not an informed reaction. It means you're just as disconnected from reality as these people.
If you run the numbers, Trump isn't even a popular figure. He doesn't have positive net approval. We can absolutely work with that. People want a reason to not support him.
I think it's uncomfortable and risky to change tact so we are predisposed to not try. But I think it makes a lot of sense.
Your point was these people can be reasoned out of a fantasy. Trump's "positive net approval" is irrelevant. There is no campaigning that will change the minds of people who choose to ignore reality for what they've invented.
Trump has a ceiling of enthusiastic approval. That ceiling is relatively low. The rest can be reached - and *have been reached* - by other means and policies. Adjust rhetoric from technocrat to populist and you may see change.
Also keep in mind that these are most likely people who only think about politics like three times every four years. We only need to capture their attention and enthusiasm for that very small window.
Democracy shouldn’t be our desire for it was not our design. It’s the ones who care for our nation, who vote to keep our Republic & it’s freedoms. The indoctrinated believe in democratic government & limiting freedoms.
And lazy. Don't forget lazy. Lots of people not willing to read about how things work or policies for 5 minutes even with the internet in their pockets. Instead base it off of feels and what others tell them (not even media). They don't want to be bored or feel uncomfortable for any amount of time.
If you believe obviously incorrect things that can easily be checked, and persist in believing them for years despite the best efforts of other people to point out how factually wrong you continue to be, then you absolutely deserve to be called stupid. Because that's fucking stupid.
I do. I voted for Harris because I didn't want Trump to be president. I also see the legitimate reasons people voted for him. A lot of people feel that their concerns weren't being addressed. I'm sure that if people weren't pouring across the border, she would have stood a better chance.
Your first reply was true at least- you aren't playing stupid like conservatives tend to. You have voluntarily chosen to blame your problems on immigration because you are an insecure person who needed a scapegoat, so you sought out rhetoric that confirmed your biases.
denying climate change makes you stupid, voting for a serial cheater makes you stupid, ignoring science makes you stupid, so yes, trump supporters are fucking stupid
Being raised around conservatives, I know that the truth is worse than "stupidity". They treat minorites badly & craft or seek out rhetoric to justify it, because they are selfish people. They pretend to be stupid to avoid accountability. If you fell for it, understandable, a lot of people seem to.
It's easier to accept that a conservative relative might just be Stupid, rather than Selfish or even Cruel. But, you eventually have to accept the truth. Bigots have deep personal flaws and insecurities, and thats why cruel, racist and self-serving rhetoric appeals to them. They're dangerous people.
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The more likely explanation is that they are misinformed, bigoted and lack the time or the skills necessary to distinguish rhetoric from reality.
https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/social-studies-and-science-get-short-shrift-in-elementary-schools-why-that-matters/2024/02#:~:text=A%202023%20report%20from%20the,subject%20in%20grades%20K%2D5.
“They’re eating the cats, they’re eating the dogs”
‘Ok well what he meant there is he’s going to implement some insightful policy..’
‘Seriously? *sigh* well that means he’s good at business. I guess…’
“I’ll fix expensive groceries and gasoline. I’m gonna do tariffs!”
‘That’s… that’s literally the worst thing you could do, making everything more expensive for everyone and achieving nothing…..”
Mike Judge, wherever you are, please make a sequel and make it stop 🥺🙏🐊
This is something we can work with. If people are low information, incapable of understanding macroeconomics and need to see politicians fighting for them, we have been running the wrong kinds of campaigns and can run different ones.
I think it's uncomfortable and risky to change tact so we are predisposed to not try. But I think it makes a lot of sense.
2. do you make decisions on facts or opinions?