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Hey, that’s your opinion & that’s fine. I wasn’t sure this story was working until Worlds End & I heard that crowd chanting “fuck you Yuta” & “you deserve it” to Mox when Cope attacked him. That made it clear to me that AEW fans understand the story & are invested. The YouTube views shows the same.
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They’ve literally made those points in promos & on commentary. It wasn’t blatantly laid out in a 15 min in-ring speech, but that’s been the story since Mox attacked Bryan & later the younger wrestlers who are now champions. Go back and listen to Darby, Mox, Cope, Jay & MJF’s promos. It’s all there.
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And I think when you heard Cope say “nobody wants to be champion” he was quoting what Mox said in a earlier promo because Mox doesn’t think anyone is willing to do what needs to be done to be champion, in his view.
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And they feel he isn’t the best representative of AEW as the champion because of his obvious devious tactics to keep the belt and purposely harming other wrestlers. The heels/tweeners don’t care about any of that, they just want the title and the clout that comes with it.
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Imo, I think you’re too caught up on the “defending AEW” idea as literal. They don’t have to literally save AEW because Mox isn’t trying to destroy it. The faces are trying to take back control of the AEW title because the person with the title is the face of the company…
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And I liked that MJF recently referenced that he called Mox “Dictator Jon” during their 2020 world title feud. Mox has become the brutal “dictator” that MJF warned about. But from his perspective, Mox is doing what he thinks is best for AEW even if it’s by nefarious means.
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I explained what the current top contenders want and why. They want to be a champion (which should be every wrestlers’ goal & again has been Mox’s main message to the whole roster). Some of the contenders just have different motivations for winning the title depending the heel/face alignment.
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Darby & Cole’s attacks on Mox were comeuppance for his unnecessary violence. They didn’t just start attacking him for no reason. That’s why the crowd chanted “you deserve it” at Mox when Cope attacked him at the end of World’s End. And being violent in stipulation matches is obviously not the same.
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Mox has said in his promos that he’s the king of AEW & if anyone doesn’t like what he represents as AEW Champion (unnecessary excessive violence/Death Riders run-in, etc) then you have to kill the king. In wrestling terms, to kill the king, you have you take the title.
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Faces like OC, Darby & Cope are not only motivated to win the championship but also to stop the Death Riders’ excessive violence. Questioning if Mox’s actions are “right” if he’s accomplishing his goals is what makes him a complex heel imo. Was Thanos right? Was Killmonger right? Was Magneto right?
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Complex villains feel their actions are justified for the greater good. And their actions may even have good outcomes. The question is do the ends justify the means. In this case, other heels/tweeners like Christian, Hangman, White & MJF don’t mind Mox’s actions, they just want the championship…
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I don’t think he’s been cutting the young guys legs out at all. His bully tactics have actually worked well for some of them. After the Death Riders attacked Private Party, Garcia and Komander, they all became champions. And Yuta gets the most crowd heat out of anyone in the Death Riders.
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Over the past few weeks multiple wrestlers (White, Hangman, Darby, Cope, MJF, etc) have said they’re going after the world title, specifically because of Mox, which again shows his motivational tactics are working (in kayfabe).
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Considering the better Tokyo Dome show over the weekend was the one filled with AEW-contracted talent, that might suggest AEW has actually done a good job of presenting them on a world class level. Takeshita, Willow & Athena became global stars in AEW/ROH. And Kenny has mostly been gone for 2 years.
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BTW, “online sentiments” have been taking Ls lately. In the last month the internet originally buried Ricochet’s new character, Komander being in the C2 & Toni Storm having a return match on Rampage. All three acts quickly got over with the LIVE CROWDS, proving the “online sentiments” were wrong.
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If I said, “Yeah, that live crowd really enjoyed Mercedes vs Stat, Ospreay vs Okada & Omega’s return but people online claimed they hated it so that means it bad”, I think most viewers would say that’s bad way to judge those segments. How is the closing angle of the show with Cope/Mox any different?
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I didn’t discredit the online sentiment. I said it’s not the majority opinion because it’s not. 8K-10K paying customers is better measure of a successful segment that an unknown number random people online. And ignoring something is a hit in the building is really silly. That’s been my whole point.
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If you mean internet reactions, that’s not the audience at large. It’s a vocal minority, not most of the fan base. The live crowd enjoyed the ending to Worlds End. That’s real. You may not have liked it but the whole segment was over in the building. Honest reviews should at least acknowledge that.
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Everybody has the preferences but the crowd in the building enjoyed in the end of Worlds End. Cope got a big return pop, the stare down with Mox got “holy shit” chants & Cope’s chair attack got “you deserve it” chants. Just because some people online didn’t like it doesn’t mean it wasn’t effective.
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And it’s not even over yet. I remember some people were making the same criticisms about Swerve’s reign at first. With Toni back, Mariah still has the potential to have a historic reign.