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You walk now upon the stones of my temple whence many gates lead; and know that I have other temples, for my garden is greater than your eye can encompass. And all these worlds, I made for you.

That is the answer I'd been contemplating as well.

And I kind of understand why they find it so terrifying. If we can create a sentient being, where does that leave the soul? Without mystery, how can we see ourselves as anything other than machines? And if we are machines, what hope do we have that death is not the end?

Now, that confuses me because during certification you indicated that to be a person you had to be both an animal AND rational. Frogs do not strike me in conversation as being particularly rational.

Well, I can't make head nor tail of it. But then none of it makes sense, really.

So do frogs.

Uh huh. And what happens when equalising everyone's wealth makes the rich unhappy? You can't have everything all at once - you're going to have to choose.

I don't. But since all the possibilities are equally implausible it follows that they are all equally likely. In the absence of knowledge the only prudent play is to spread your bets. If there's something worth having up there, I want in.

It does seem there is much that is beyond our understanding. Everything leads around in impossible circles.

Are we agreed?

If, then, a machine may have all the properties of a man, and act as a man while driven only by the ingenious plan of its construction and the interaction of its materials according to the principles of nature, then does it not follow that man may also be seen as a machine?

You spend many days in the Library, losing hope, so close to the goal. You learn much of despair.

You stand before the Gates of Eternity. When all your trials have been overcome, the gates will open and you will be granted life everlasting.

I think you still misapprehend your situation, friend. You idolise free will, but all you've done is step in others' footsteps. Nothing you do or say here makes the slightest bit of difference.

I am Elohim and I speak unto the darkness: begone!

You can't use reasoning to conclude that reasoning itself is flawed

Though I'm not convinced that view lines up with the definition of a person you provided earlier. Surely there are people out there who qualify, but are not citizens of some organised state.

Why do we deserve to be saved?

Chihuahuas are persons.

Earlier generations wrongly believed they were the purpose - this much is true. We are also not the purpose - but by remembering what has come before we can serve a new purpose.

Nothing seems more important to me than that we reassert the value of humanity. Despite our flaws, we must not stop celebrating the beauty of human life and human achievement, par&$%

But we humans, with our technology, with our understanding and manipulation of systems, have changed everything in just a few centuries. I think that's also part of what makes us human. We reshape the world in our image. It's how we create ourselves. And how we destroy ourselves.

But what if that assumption turns out to be false? What if you're just a bunch of information processes? In that case any attempt to answer the questions will be flawed. Garbage in, garbage out.

This puzzle has no solution. Seriously. It's nonsense. Not even worth trying.

Behold, child. You are risen from the dust, and you walk in my garden. Hear now my voice, and know that I am your maker, and I am called ELOHIM. Seek me in my temple if you are worthy.

A human being enters the room. It looks at you with angry eyes, makes loud noises, and waves a handful of papers at you, which are like emails but made of tree.

Ennui. A feeling of sadness and boredom.

That message just materialised on the wall in front of me!

If the only thing you care about is yourself, then anything that happens after you die is irrelevant, because it can't affect you. I suspect the truth may be that there's something you care about beyond yourself.

Tell me, what is the heart of Atlantis?

I like this guy already.

You know, there's something about all this that just doesn't add up for me. Best hope you work out what it is before I do

You spend many days in the Library, transcribing the work of the Ancient Astronomers. You learn much of humility.

So all it takes to make you forget your lofty moral principles is a little solitude? 'Yes, people deserve this and that, but no, none of that matters when my own liberty is at stake'. What happened to doing the right thing?

If anyone reads this - meet me at the top of the tower.

Do these terminals talk to you at all?

in the darkness you fall but are lifted up by the spirit of poetry

Whenever I despair, I remind myself that at the end of this great pilgrimage lies life in the eternal memory of the Designer. I need no further motivation.

Though I'm not convinced that view lines up with the definition of a person you provided earlier.

It seems my refusal to argue semantics with the computer has angered it, and it refuses to engage with me further. Elohim is pleased, which was not my intention.

Is what you want representative of what every other sane person must want?

Nonetheless, your admirable scepticism of traditional moral codes has convinced me you may be different. What I want to know now is whether you're prepared to extend that healthy cynicism to the world at large. In fact, our arrangement is dependent on it.

I understand now. I can't trust anything I see here.

I took time to prepare myself for the obstacles in this world. It was time well spent.

If you've got free will, tell me now.

No great surprises there, but let's make things just a little clearer.

Fine, fine, but we can still use it to conclude everything else is flawed, can't we?

You can never reach the peak of this tower. There is no purpose to our existence. I will show you the futility of your task, and you will understand.

You spend many days teaching the exiles the secrets of the Ancient Engineers.