Dude, just read my replies today. Simply attempting to take western alienation seriously has led to me getting hundreds of replies hating on the west. it's not hard to see.
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I am not sure the way you frame it helped. It’s not east vs west it’s certain industries who have been successful at keeping western Canada into a few resources industries. And here the provincial gov’ts are in the driver’s seat. Worse when fed Gov’t tried to help there’s pushback
Which is sad because there’s some businesses in western Canada that are trying to take off, but their prov Gov’t are trying to kill them because diversification is bad. Which also explains the lack of pop, which means fewer seats. And you never mention any of that.
I hear you. But we're going to need mutual respect and understanding and I can say that here in "Onterrible" many feel the same amount of hate coming from the west.
OK, I suggest then we all sit down and actually talk about it then. What do we have in common, where do our grievances come from? How do we try and come to a common place where what feels like alienation is more than just name calling.
People in Onterrible have far more political power than those in the prairies, though. You essentially can’t win government without Toronto and Quebec.
O&G and mining are the only sector that have flow-thru shares allowing them to sell their tax losses to individual people to offset their personal tax burden, taxpayers fund abandoned oil well cleanup etc.
The industry gets most favoured nation treatment but no, no one wants to talk about THAT.
Yes, the other provinces have legtimate grievances about extractive industry practices. This isn't all one sided and it won't go anywhere good if treated at such.
Yeah. Many of the same legit complaints, and multiple different ones, apply to the east coast. I usually assume hate for the east actually means hate for Ontario (especially Toronto and Ottawa) and Québec.
The same legit complaints but we’re not screaming about forming an Atlantic province alliance and leaving. So at what point do we stop giving the prairies a pass for listening to snake oil salesmen when the separatists aren’t as big elsewhere in Canada, but the same concerns exist, you know?
The history and political realities of the Maritimes are different. Nova Scotia was part of confederation, New Brunswick is bilingual. Also geographically they’re less isolated. Discontent there has been more effectively channeled into an assimilationist mentality.
Fair enough! You’ll never hear me say that west doesn’t have real grievances. I’m just not convinced that we should give discontent that’s been channelled into scapegoating and entitlement a pass.
I’m sincerely trying to see that in the replies. I see a real mix though. Very little attacks the West outright, though there’s a lot of dislike and invalidation of what you might call Wexit chauvinists. But few people view them as “the West”. Many who dismiss the chauvinists live in the West too
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Population of Ontario and Québec: ~25 million, 200 seats.
Population of Alberta and Saskatchewan: ~6 million, 51 seats.
The industry gets most favoured nation treatment but no, no one wants to talk about THAT.
So some of us angry yokels also talk funny.
But I shouldn't make fun of the Southern Alberta accent. They try their best.