There’s reason to believe Russia’s military and political leadership may assume the same logic applies if they move into parts of the Baltics. After all, why would people in Spain, Greece, Italy, or Portugal risk nuclear war over Daugavpils or Klaipeda?
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Also russia would first need to neutralise Ukr, build a new army, and start the next war.
I stick to not believing russia can do the same thing for the currently free Ukrainians.
Also first Ukraine have to lose! A lot. Unless there's traitors the fight will last to the...
It’s lst hurrah was pretty much bombing Serbia to keep it from doing what russia is doing now.
The middle eastern escapades were already on the downslide, in terms of what NATO was supposed to be.
https://history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/nato
The way to avoid a global war is to expel Russian nationals from the EU and sanction the Russian economy back into the Stone Age.
Southern Europe armies will fight Russia if it is a global EU agreement and the country government is center-right. Left wing govs might not.
We saw Wagner rattle the Kremlin.
When there's nothing to lose, you turn on the dictator
The Soviet Union fell on Afghanistan. Russia wobbled on Chechnya, and watch what will happen when the Piper comes calling. Lada's and gorcery coupons wont bring back your son, father, brother etc
The chocolate price was almost a quote I read a few days ago from a russian. “When will the war end? Chocolate costs like gold 😫😭”
Just witness videos of their soldiers complaining.
It used to be once a month, then a week, now you see it every day.
So no, it unfortunately doesn't work both ways.
On a personal level, yes they do.
The leadership/oligarchs, I have some doubts.
And they would be right, because ultimately, no one in the leadership wants a nuclear exchange. Which is why any conflict will stay firmly conventional.
If they’re talking about the current regime, leadership is an oxymoron with respect to FOTUS and his cult.
Leading implies that others should follow. This regime only leads to destruction.
And yes, I haven't join the fight in Ukraine, there were family restrictions preventing that, but if the call to protect Europe comes I'll answer!
You can try to deduce something from this, but it does not prove anything about how Article 5 would work in a real situation.
Think for yourself, would Russia have signed a paper with the US to give military guarantees for Ukraine's borders?
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Yes, between members.
I would like to see more support for Ukraine, but still no definite conclusions can be drawn about the level of that support from the activities of Article 5.
Trump, for example, will have a greater impact.
Accession to NATO is complicated. Winning a war of liberation is complicated and difficult. I think it's worth recognizing that focusing on the latter - and letting the former be a fait...
I can't think of something Portugal bring to the table in Europe anyway, so Russia can have it.