Have you read much Carl— primacy of the psyche—Jung? Kastrup’s writings on him are really good. Jung’s “Answer to Job” is a serious banger if the notion of humanity influencing God’s nature—triggering a conscious self-awareness that changed his essential nature in the case of Job—sounds intriguing.
first argument says mind vs matter is not a valid dichotomy because they’re at different levels of abstraction. concretely mind is the only thing we know directly, therefore it’s matter that’s actually an abstraction. this doesn’t by itself argue for idealism but shows it’s not mirror of materialism
the book starts with a tantalising prospect of not having the Hard Problem by claiming it’s a consequence of the wrong starting point. if you start with the mind, the Hard Problem goes poof because there’s no gap left to be explained
there’s a claim that top-down dissociation of universal consciousness doesn’t bump into the same problems as bottom-up panpsychism (such as the combination problem). that makes sense to me
i’m a bit annoyed by the strong “ai can’t ever be made to think/feel” stance but he kind of substantiates that. the usual flawed argument for it is “only brains produce thought” which imo is nonsense. but his argument is “thoughts produce only brains”. so “artificial” consciousness needs abiogenesis
hi @bernardokastrup.bsky.social i know im trying to compress it in four words but would you say the above is a decently accurate compression of what you’re saying re: conscious ai?
Just in case, or most likely for other readers: Leslie Vaillant in Probably approximately correct offers a unifying theory for how nature is "smart" and humans are "smart". You could then argue that intelligence was embedded in matter since the beginning and the "algorithm" just self improved.
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>doesnt include fiction
game over already tbh
Physics of the mind.
https://appliedjung.com/answer-to-job/
– Hans Jonas, The Phenomenon of Life
Gaat op de lijst waar dit boek ook nog altijd op staat.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59093393-the-romance-of-reality
I want to read this now 🫠