Here. I've written about Steve Miran's earlier plan to use tariffs as a form of "burden sharing" (extortion) against American allies. othermeans.io/p/the-americ... - ThreadSky

gravitysra1nbow.bsky.social • 49 days ago

Here. I've written about Steve Miran's earlier plan to use tariffs as a form of "burden sharing" (extortion) against American allies.

https://othermeans.io/p/the-american-delian-league

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juanrive.bsky.social•49 days ago

Yes but imagine Athens is helping the Persians

momo663.bsky.social•49 days ago

The most intense human emotion is humiliation. Humans always act irrationally if they are humiliated. Trump’s bullying approach is humiliating. Telling Canada/ Greenland (Denmark) they should be acquired is humiliating. This has consequences. American Era Is Over.

persistentpoasting.bsky.social•49 days ago

Good poast. I do want to note that DC itself had a part in sabotaging European efforts to increase security spending because we would try to use the EU as the financial and organizational vehicle through which to do.

Which makes DC unconformable, sltime it's been floated DC shuts it down.

gravitysra1nbow.bsky.social•49 days ago

Well you know. It’s complicated.

persistentpoasting.bsky.social•49 days ago

Oh absolutely, I just don't like the word "ignored". It's been tried and as soon as the EU is floated as the way to do it with. DC gets so uncomfortable that suddenly they don't really mean it.

Possibly because an EU with shared def planning and procurement is also an EU that can say no to the US.

chowderman.bsky.social•49 days ago

As the man said, it is complicated.

Until recently, EU plans to get involved in defence were restricted to simply duplicating NATO bureaucracy rather than investing in military capacity.

Furthermore, the EU itself doesn’t have the political cohesion to act as a belligerent.

chowderman.bsky.social•49 days ago

The alternative to NATO is not the EU, it is NATO minus the US.

Link to a discussion…

https://youtu.be/7kGFjF6kEsI?feature=shared

gravitysra1nbow.bsky.social•49 days ago

Look. Look. Please see my footnote about aircraft carriers before lodging further complaints.

persistentpoasting.bsky.social•49 days ago

The French already did that.

I just wanted to highlight that the blame cannot solely be assigned to European member states when the US has actively worked against proposals to comply with us requests. It just gets missed when discussing this topic too often.

persistentpoasting.bsky.social•49 days ago

And to be clear, I don't mean to attack the rest of your article which is excellent and captures atleast my thinking on the matter pretty well.
Which is likely why you see efforts to rearm in Europe loving forward even as DC is bitching about using the EU and excluding us firms from the shared fund.

freydalpishti.bsky.social•49 days ago

The madman has yet again found a way for Thucydides posting.

freydalpishti.bsky.social•49 days ago

I was unironically thinking the other day (while visiting Athens) that the mineral deal the US are still trying to pull is basically post 480 B.C. Athens if ketamine existed.

gravitysra1nbow.bsky.social•49 days ago

You would not believe it, but all of history is merely the struggle between Athens and Sparta

rokrish98.bsky.social•49 days ago

What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun. Is there anything of which one can say, “Look! This is something new”? It was here already, long ago; it was here before our time.