Easy question, simple answer: yes, children born here are American citizens.
IIRC, it was Felon 47 who insisted the 14th amendment was meant for children of slaves after emancipation. So I don’t know why this question is floating around in the MAGAverse.
Since the #TrumpRegime is so concerned with violent #immigrants, maybe they should deport the #ScotsIrish from Appalachia? They brought their violence traditions into America.🤔🙄
funniest thing is only 59 came on that plane. there are 4.5 million white South Africans. they aren't storming the embassy there, most white South African farmers OWN farms and they are prosperous, why the hell would they give up their farms to come here to be factory workers making little money?
and even if every white person inf SA moved here, it would change our demographics from 58.4% non-Hispanic white to 58.9%.
meanwhile it isn't even about whites alone as Trump wants to send back Ukrainian refugees. it is about who they think SA whites are, which is apartheidist racists
i think it will mostly be young college age people looking for an easy visa, some very rich people who want both passports and don't want to shell out 5 million, white losers who can't cut it in South Africa, and a few who genuinely want to live in the states for new opportunities and experiences.
I spent way more time than I'd like to admit thinking about this question because all I could think of was "...How are they they going to shape this into a gotcha no matter how I answer?"
But it really is just based on pure, simple hatred.
How would this question "own" anyone?😆 Yes, they would be citizens. But, do I think their parents are garbage, racist human beings? Also yes. We already have American racists raising their kids to be racist. How is this a "gotcha" moment?
They just can't imagine a reality where their bigotry isn't normalized, so they assume everyone is seething with hatred towards their own subjective "out group." When in reality the bigotry is just super cringe.
Pretty sure no one kicked up a fuss about Elon Musk’s kids being US citizens, and he’s a white South African immigrant (who was here illegally when he overstayed his student visa and started working).
It's deeper than what you're saying, my FIL is MAGA to the core and said years ago they wanted white SAs in the south to create a white Christian state in the south
In the 📖 The Human Use of Human Beings. It talks about communication and those who stifle it. For decades, the right distorted Progressive views, convincing people we were an enemy— the real enemy - was the one twisting our message. They don't see us. They see what they learned to think about us.
If they can't (willfully or not) see that other people reason differently, then they think that the other side will play just as unfairly and the reasoning is just as sophistical.
And agree with the video: the issue for liberals is not about white Afrikaners per se.
I agree the issue is about expediting Afrikaners over other people who have been waiting longer and face danger and who are being dismissed without consideration. The people should be on equal footing with each other and the claims judged by factual evidence.
Giant tell here. His scenario supposes liberals would be upset at the white South Africans being given refuge, just because they are white South Africans. Of course, he thinks that way because he is upset at all the brown people given refuge.
Time to strike yet? Withhold our end of the social contract and it all comes to a screeching halt until our demands are met. https://Generalstrikeus.com
Guy in car looks like a child molester. That is what we really should be discussing here. Like does he have a 70’s van and drive around school zones with candy?? 🥺🧐🤨.
The right's ability for discernment and critical thinking is at odds with their bigotry, prejudice, and racism. Also, they're too stupid to discern, or think critically.
Thanks for calling them out on their weird fake mind conversation bullshit. That's exactly what they do - and it's moronic.
They are still fking weird even after they win...
The only reason they are still doing this shit is because they know deep down they really lost. They know they fked up and so they are looking for the last straw to grab
they don't get it. liberals dont have a problem with white immigrants. sure, fine, go through the process. we mind the total fucking hypocrisy and lies around the whole thing. It's not the individual people coming here that's the damn problem.
Should a mob attack to the US Capitol in an attempt to stop the certification of a new President and assault police officers in the process be considered a crime? 😁
Yes it does include them... it includes everyone who is born in this country... what the fuck about that don't they understand.....seriously can they be any more stupid🙄
Obviously as you clearly stated it is a trap. We have a muddled system right now, based on the whims of a group in the advisory position to the Befuddled President. Those whims appear to be based on race, and social economics. From what I've heard The South African's didn't want to come here.
Afrikaner here. Daughter is a US citizen. Social security number, passport, chilly burger with the works. I'm not a refugee, a South African citizen, don't live in the US & neither does she. BUT, her mother is a US citizen. So as the constitutions of both countries declare, she's a dual citizen.
On another note I wish I knew how to contact you. Short story this woman claims that her son ran away, so they decided to assault him in public and commit child abuse. Couldn’t get their names, but police were called.
In answer to your question: Because they are unprincipled hypocrites who assume everyone else operates the same way. Unfortunately for them, they’re wrong.
There has been zero evidence presented that white South African farmers are in danger and need refuge. Nothing from law enforcement, nothing from the government, no witness accounts. Nothing. This issue just appeared out of thin air.
Agree. They ask such fake stupid qts. If those white South Africans not here bc of white genocide or persecution by the govt, is/gets pregnant & their offspring is born here that baby would get birthright citizenship. The parents still have to apply & be granted citizenship. It’s that simple.
further left than a liberal but... Yes? What do they expect? Constitution says all persons born soo🤷♂️
what, they think the myriad of people on the left are just self hating yt ppl and it's just a bonus for left leaning POC? We're not the ones trying to make the constitution only work for rich yt ppl
I can't believe people are actually asking that question. What is this world coming to when we have to clarify your birthright. You are a citizen of where you are born, that's it. No discussion and no one can take that away from you. Fight people who try to change that.
MAGA thinks this is a gotcha because they hide behind their severe lack of morality with lies and hypocrisy. Their expectation is for us to do the same. My one hope is that the DSM6 leaves enough room because every time Charlie Kirk opens his mouth, I go, "There's another,"
The USA basically had open borders until the late 1800s. The only people who truly can say that they descended from people who were not undocumented are American Indians and Black descendants of slaves.
Most people with a brain know what tRump is trying to do.
tRump heard somewhere that the White population was shrinking here in the U.S. So in addition to coming up with incentives to White women to have children (like brood mares), he figured why not IMPORT some White folks.
Yes, it’s stupid. As he works hard to make this country into one of the “Hell hole” countries he loves to disparage. If he has his way, why wd people want to bring children into Trump hell hole USA?
They pick a subject, have an argument with the liberal inside their head, make a video expecting real people to react the same and then get upset when the majority don't. Every time.
1. They constantly build-up this need to have a false moral-high ground over libs/Leftists.
2. They think everyone else is just as bigoted as they are, and are just too afraid to be open about it, unlike themselves (RWers that is).
“White” is the give away. They are drowning in white replacement conspiracy theory. Bc, you know, whites have suffered a great deal in this country at the hands of those dark skinned peeps. Oh, the victimhood of the rightists. 🙄🙄🙄
Green acres is the place for me. Farm living is the
life for me. Land stretching out so far and wide. Keep Manhattan give me that countryside.
New York is where I would rather stay. I get allergic smelling hay. I adore a penthouse view. Dark-ing
I love you but give me Park Ave chores stores
fh r ts
Yep, parrots. They're just a bunch of dumbfuck parrots that can't think for themselves. How in the world do any of these idiots claim to be alpha anything?
I will never understand how they just expect us to be like "NO, THEY'RE THE WRONG FUCKING COLOR!!!!!" Like they do. It's ALMOST as it it is nothing but projection.
They've convinced themselves, fever-dreamers that they are, that progressive people are somehow "reverse racists" against white people. It's a bizarre headspace they live in, but whatevz. I might not think very highly of white "refugees" from South Africa, but that's so very not the point.
Their entire political "argumentation" is based on strawmen fallacies. They know if they actually asked any liberal, the answer would be a flat yes. That is as if they assume that liberals are just contrarians.
I think it's a little questionable that if someone comes here on a vacation and drops a baby, they just get to be American. However, if someone lives here, then yes, absolutely, their children are citizens, regardless of why the parents live here or what their status is.
Why is it always us vs. them? Foreigners, Black people, white people we’re all just trying to get through the day. It takes a bigot to believe they’re superior. It reminds me of the film noir Odds Against Tomorrow (1959). Hate only ever goes in one direction and it’s never a good one
(Note: Unless people coming here are on diplomatic visas. The children of diplomats do not get automatic birthright citizenship in the USA - because diplomats aren't subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.)
Yes, that is a slamdunk. They parents were here into the citizenship process (however sketchy their claims), any child of such parents born on our soil automatically has a right to citizenship out of the gate. Why do conservatives think that we would answer this any other way?
Here's the way I figure it, MAGA finds a hill, and decides that it will be the hill they die on. Now, no one cares about that hill, and it's not a particularly smart hill, but they'll die on it anyway, because that's how low IQ works.
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IIRC, it was Felon 47 who insisted the 14th amendment was meant for children of slaves after emancipation. So I don’t know why this question is floating around in the MAGAverse.
#Documentary
How The Scots-Irish Transformed The American South
https://youtu.be/9V97QEd8U10?si=uzl_auTADdQ4jLLl
Cmon. Gtfo of here.
Almost got me there. Whew are they whitty. Sly bastards.
meanwhile it isn't even about whites alone as Trump wants to send back Ukrainian refugees. it is about who they think SA whites are, which is apartheidist racists
But it really is just based on pure, simple hatred.
Why wouldn't it apply to white south Africans
We've heard MAGA/Trump who claim the only fair election is the one they win. The only fair outcome is the one where they get what they want.
So if they reason that way, why wouldn't they think that others reason that way?
And agree with the video: the issue for liberals is not about white Afrikaners per se.
https://Generalstrikeus.com
But any CHILDREN from them that are born here -- sure.
THAT'S HOW IT WORKS, FELLERS.
Thanks for calling them out on their weird fake mind conversation bullshit. That's exactly what they do - and it's moronic.
The only reason they are still doing this shit is because they know deep down they really lost. They know they fked up and so they are looking for the last straw to grab
This is like when they ask "If BIDEN did XYZ would you want HIM impeached? haha GOTCHA!!!"
Yes... because any patriotism you find in me will be for the Constitution, not a PERSON.
"we will treat you well, unless—"
so they assume "the other guys" would also do this. when they dont. but its inconceivable to conservatives as to why they wouldnt
No biggie.
The grifter pundit class that seeks attention and money from the chaos
The indoctrinated. These are the shallows, the stupids, the majority.
The radicalized- the militia types, the virulent bigots, the chuds, and they’ll only accept an all white society.
what, they think the myriad of people on the left are just self hating yt ppl and it's just a bonus for left leaning POC? We're not the ones trying to make the constitution only work for rich yt ppl
Don’s grandpa was illegal.
https://familytreemagazine.com/records/immigration/three-myths-immigrant-ancestors/
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/did-my-family-really-come-legally-todays-immigration-laws-created-a-new-reality
tRump heard somewhere that the White population was shrinking here in the U.S. So in addition to coming up with incentives to White women to have children (like brood mares), he figured why not IMPORT some White folks.
1. They constantly build-up this need to have a false moral-high ground over libs/Leftists.
2. They think everyone else is just as bigoted as they are, and are just too afraid to be open about it, unlike themselves (RWers that is).
life for me. Land stretching out so far and wide. Keep Manhattan give me that countryside.
New York is where I would rather stay. I get allergic smelling hay. I adore a penthouse view. Dark-ing
I love you but give me Park Ave chores stores
fh r ts
Obviously, Birthright citizenship would apply to ANY child born on US soil regardless of nationality/race/gender/religion. That's how that works.
That some think that is the issue shows how few understand the problem.
Tgey are strange cats that’s for sure