Trump: We're subsidizing Canada to the tune of over 100 billion a year. We're subsidizing Mexico to almost $300 billion. If we're going to subsidize them, let them become a state
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Bahahaha Canada become a state? I live just over the border and let me say that they are laughing at what an idiot Trump is and how stupid Americans are for voting for him.
The White House burned burned burned & we're the ones that did it
It burned burned burned while the president ran & cried
It burned burned burned & things were very historical
& the americans ran & cried like a bunch of little babies wah wah wah in the war of 1812 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW799AwI3m0
The White House burned burned burned & we're the ones that did it
It burned burned burned while the president ran & cried
It burned burned burned & things were very historical
& the americans ran & cried like a bunch of little babies wah wah wah in the war of 1812 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW799AwI3m0
The White House burned burned burned & we're the ones that did it
It burned burned burned while the president ran & cried
It burned burned burned & things were very historical
& the americans ran & cried like a bunch of little babies wah wah wah in the war of 1812 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW799AwI3m0
FU I will never have you as my leader and I will fight to keep it that way. Maybe even do it Canadian-style - pull your hockey jersey over your head and wail away on that orange melon.
He won't get them from 🇨🇦 Canada.
We will fight to the death to defend Canada from American annexation. If you want more Democratic Senators, you'll have to get more Americans to vote blue.
The death of Canada is not on the table just so you can get more Democratic Senators.
The entirety of trumps reign could be paralyzed by numerous costly and lengthy court battles. Four years can go by before the courts make decisions ….and that would be in a normal workload.
Good idea. And let them vote. About 170m extra people, solve the southern border problem for Texas, bit of pressure on infrastructure perhaps but hey, the man is a genius.
Much of the heavy crude oil we use to create gasoline comes from Canada and Mexico. Yes the US pumps lots of light sweet crude but our refineries are built to use heavy crude. Is Trump trying to create a gas crisis to give oil companies access to protected areas? Oil we don't even use ourselves?
WHAT A FUCKING MORON. Trump, like always, is literally just pulling made up statistics from his corrupt ass. It is 100% untrue that the USA "subsidizes" either of our two largest trade partners Canada OR Mexico. It's just another diabolical Putin/Trump big lie plot to divide and to isolate America.
The White House burned burned burned & we're the ones that did it
It burned burned burned while the president ran & cried
It burned burned burned & things were very historical
& the americans ran & cried like a bunch of little babies wah wah wah in the war of 1812 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW799AwI3m0
Its not a lie, it's him being an idiot - it's because he thinks having a trade deficit with a country means you're losing money to them, in the same way your budget deficit works.
BINGO...YOU WIN FREE MEMES....EVERYBODY GETS MEMES. But, what's truly frightening is that Trump's murdering, genocidal hero Putin- who got him elected twice on ramped up fascist disinformation and indoctrination "otherness" tactics-KNOWS that Trump is that ignorant, arrogant, narcissistic, foolish.
Trump’s at it again: a trade deficit isn’t a subsidy. If you buy a loaf of bread from the store, you’re not “subsidizing” the bakery, you’re paying for the goods.
Then there’s his “solution”, turning Canada and Mexico into U.S. states. What’s next, annexing Italy because we import too much pasta?
Why call him an idiot? He proved his genius by getting elected twice—and even convinced some he didn’t lose the other one. Only a genius could pull that off, right? 🤷
You know in a sense you are right. It is the greatest con we have or will ever see. So he is good at the dishonest part and is an idiot in the day to day stuff. That fair?
I think it's more of an aversion to admitting that the thing they've worshipped for 10 years is actually a useless piece of garbage .. (but deep down they know it ..)
The problem is that his supporters aren’t able to think that through. He said it. They believe it. That settles it. I have been trying to help a few family members understand this but there is nothing that will shake them loose from believing whatever he says.
I’d hope you’d consider those of us who are stuck in red states but are blue to the core of their being. If I had the means to escape the hell that is Missouri, I would.
This might be out there, but I believe he wants to be like rulers of the past, when they were hungry for more land, thus more power. I think he wants control of the whole continent, and more
The US has nearly 10 times Canada's population and nearly three times Mexico's. Of course, we are going to import more from them than we export to them. We have more consumers.
Trade deficits. Trump believes a trade deficit is somehow a subsidy, without recognizing (to pick just one example) that the oil you buy from us in Canada is in turn refined in the US and turned into American profits gained from some other buyer.
I wonder if this is "Trump believes" or he's found a way to spin it for his minions to get angry. We've seen that the can rile up his cult, get them to believe BS, (example, his tariffs are all good!) and support him.
I'd like to believe it is the latter, because it'll be easier to dial that down. But my own best guess is that it is the former, insofar as Trump has been talking about trade & trade deficits this way since the 1980s.
I liken it to the "election was stolen" stuff. He knows it wasn't. He's been told literally by his own family that it wasn't, but he keeps saying it because MAGA believes it.
Now if the reporter pushed back and asked to explain this "subsidy", that would be interesting.
never say 'trump believes' or 'trump thinks'
* trump says he believes....
or better
* trump pretends he believes....
one can never know if he talks out of total actual ignorance or gaslighing/lying for effect.
The White House burned burned burned & we're the ones that did it
It burned burned burned while the president ran & cried
It burned burned burned & things were very historical
& the americans ran & cried like a bunch of little babies wah wah wah in the war of 1812 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW799AwI3m0
And as Trudeau has tried to explain to him multiple times, we have a trade SURPLUS with Canada, which what Trump says he wants. He is too dumb to understand numbers, and refuses to believe what people tell him.
If I'm not mistaken, isn't the argument that the US has a trade surplus on all other trade once you exclude oil and gas? It's a fine argument, but I'm not sure it's going to work with someone who only sees the lump sum... :)
And that the trade deficit is caused mainly because of the weaker Canadian dollar anyways - US just has more buying power and we wouldn't/can't consume as much being a 10ty the size
I think it's a casserole of causes, and I'm happy to acknowledge a bunch of factors. Surely we can agree that what it ISN'T caused by is: a US economic "subsidy" of Canada.
We can definitely agree to that! I thought he was talking about foreign aide again. Apparently we’re behind on our NATO commitments. I thought that was his hobby horse?
I'm not 100% sure I agree: some of it is that the US buys a lot of input commodities from us but we can only buy so much on manufactured goods/services in reply, and some of it is the structure of certain supplies in different markets - e.g. electricity in the Northeast from dams in Quebec, etc.
No you're right - I'm over stating the $ effect w "mainly" - if cad was at par tho, the deficit would prob close by 20-25% due greater can purchasing power/lesser US. But inputs/market consumption relative to size are just facts of life
Aren't trade deficits caused by the USA wanting or needing stuff from others at a price we are willing to pay but do not have as much to sell back because other countries do not need or cannot afford what we have for sale? When Nixon and Kissinger opened China, I knew we were going to get screwed.
The USA has $100 Billion trade deficit to Canada. However Canada exports $124 Billion in oil and $10 Billion in natural gas to the US a year. We can fix the deficit by stopping that trade. Is that what he wants?
What the hell is he even talking about? What a moron - if this bullshit wasn't so dangerous it would be funny. He is laying the ground work for pulling a Putin and annexing sovereign territory. Question is will he go after Mexico or Canada first?
I'd say that I'm surprised that a Wharton School graduate has a fundamental misunderstanding of tariffs and subsidies but considering he's bankrupted everything he's touched and ran a casino into the ground so hard the roulette table is at the center of the Earth I can't say I'm shocked.
Exactly. People dismissing this as him being a moron are being played. This is him getting people ready to do aggressive things at the border. About which I heard during his last presidency there's a treaty that bans both borders from being militarized.
You know, I’m really getting fed up with thinking he is so dumb, only to see no pushback from the press. Does he demand no disagreement as a condition of the interview? What good are interviews if you don’t probe and push back? Otherwise just give him the mic and let him ramble away.
Thin edge of the wedge from my perspective. Create the false narrative to support his quest to exploit our resources. Water being high on his list. The threat of tariffs on our steel, border issues etc. is a plan to force Canada into a corner.
He/they have already begun the process of corrupting our conservative politicians who have adopted the "playbook".
We see it expressed daily in the House of Commons.
The majority of our media is owned by those same oligarchs and billionaires driving Project 2025.
So first he wanted to build a wall to keep Mexican people out... now he wants to make Mexico a state where they can freely come and go? Quite the policy evolution...
Think that we are going to sacrifice our country for electoral votes. Canada 🇨🇦 will forever be Canada 🇨🇦, the orange malevolence will never get his greedy, greasy Big Mac tiny hands on Canada. We will go to war if necessary to prevent that.
That’s maybe a good idea ! Trudeau should accept and ask for 50 votes. Maybe we have President Trudeau in 4 years if the republic still stands and not sold to Russia before
He talks out both sides of his mouth and is careful how he words things saying he won’t do this or do that but he leaves it open for the people put in place to do it for him so he can say they did it and not him.
If Mexico becomes a state, Trump will have to put a wall along the Guatemala and Belize borders. The Guatemalans and Belizians will have to pay for that wall!
God pls let these 4 yrs fly by.. and to whoever interview this ass clown. GROW SOME BALLS AND PUSH BACK. QUIT PLAYING NICE.. NORMAL AMERICANS WANT REAL ANSWERS..
Well honestly I don't think he will make it the whole 4 yrs but I also think that congress will have had enough with him after 4 and he won't have a say in it.. it will be rough for normal Americans tho. But won't be horrible.. if ur on his bad list than I would be running for hills
They won't corporate media is how he's gone as far as he has. If they had fact checked him & called out his lies from the beginning we wouldn't be in this situation
One thing I thought we could all agree on is that both Canada and Mexico are countries separate from our own and not potential states. How long til he tries to buy Greenland again?
"The trade deficit in goods and services was $41 billion with Canada and $162 billion with Mexico; a deficit simply means that one country’s consumers are buying more from the other nation, not giving money away."
What an imbecile this orange shitgibbon is.
Moron. Cretin. Nitwit. Twit. Dope.
This dictator must be eradicated along with the oligarchs in his orbit.
Eat the rich.
Regroup, rebel & revolt.
I'll hazard a guess he is on coumadin, and they got his dose too high. Even a slight bump can induce a large surface hematoma exactly as seen in the photo or a phlebotomy in the hand that has not had proper pressure applied for a long enough duration. So, DVT or PE or other clotting disorders?
He believes a trade deficit is the same as subsidies, which is a completely idiotic statement. So he wants to punish Mexico and Canada for selling Americans food, raw materials and oil basically.
You don’t. There is a trade deficit, where we sell you $100Mil more a year than you sell us. Exacerbated by high commodity prices at the moment, like oil and lumber.
Absolutely. He has 2, actual beliefs: 1) genetics is destiny and 2) everything is zero sum. The latter is his true North Star (and even informs the first). So, in every “deal”, there are winners and losers. If you give up $1, you are, definitionally, losing.
And assuming, somehow, that the combined populations of those two countries—Canada, 40 million, Mexico 130 million—will have the same buying power as 335 million Americans. I mean, of course there’s a trade deficit.
The US blue states subsidize the red states. Maybe we should allow the red states to secede so they become a third world country and we can buy their goods at extremely lower prices, that way we get deflation with no detrimental effect to the blue state’s economies 🤣🤣🤣
Why is 50% of the American population so stupid? Why why why why? Why would they vote this buffoon in? But then I remember the 50% are Trump's "poor uneducated voters".
I always think of them as the kids in the back of the class who copied everyone's work and cheated on every test. Then complained when they got a D or F for a grade.
Based on the numbers, more of those who voted, voted against him. The largest number of eligible voters stayed home, and thanks to all the 3rd party voters and those who voted for Trump, we’re stuck with him. Most will only care when they realize what it means to them.
If you really want to know Trump's core support is from evangelicals and other right wing Christians who live in families and communities where they will be shunned if they don't go along with the fundie groupthink. They were discouraged from independent thinking.
The other 10% who support him are basically narcissistic and they just have big adult temper tantrums voting against incumbents instead of forming a coherent political worldview.
Hah, in the 2024 vote, methinks about 80% of that half are cynical fans of deregulation and tax cuts for the wealthy... no matter what they said about whom they voted for or why. 🔥
He’s so stupid. If you want a North American union with Canada, Mexico, etc., I’m all for that, but subsuming other countries is another one of Putin’s ideas in his simple head. I hate that guy so much. True, genuine, hatred.
Canadians will go to war before we accept continentalism. The USA has over 300 million people. Do you think that 40 million Canadians will be able to keep our identity if we unite with the USA continentally? Mexico would also be overwhelmed.
Canadians will never surrender our independence.
Yes, but if the US gave $61 billion in 2023 to *ALL* foreign aid, how can Israel have gotten $150 billion themselves in 2 years?
61b + 61b=122b
That total isn’t even $150b by itself???!!
Something is amiss.
But he's not talking about foreign aid, he's talking about the amount of money that the US spends to buy things from those countries. You and I know that's nuts and not a "subsidy", but his MAGA followers don't understand that. And this is a reason they love him.
Well, I’m afraid we’ll get Baby Trump in the next federal election. We have a racist scaremonger in Quebec, a crazy loon in Ontario and a neocon in Alberta. And Nova Scotia just elected the conservatives. Nothing reassuring.
Trump clearly doesn't know what a subsidy is nor does he understand how tariffs operate in the economy. But it doesn't matter because his followers have no clue either.
Trump loves Manifest Destiny, he thinks that Canada is a sizeable chunk of real estate. If he invades, Canadians will boot the invaders out like we did the last time.
If he's threatening Mexico and Canada like this, we gotta assume Bahamas, Turks & Caicos and my very own Panama are targeted for a purchase if we (predictably and reasonably) reject his proposal to receive all undocumented immigrants who cannot be repatriated.
That fat fuck will feed worms before he ever steps foot on Canadian soil. Big nation, lots of places to put a bloated sack of shit like that. Fucking said what I said. #SKODEN
Plus, Canadians 🇨🇦 specialize in planting sunflower seeds.
Canada will never surrender to the orange malevolence!
He wants to invade Canada should his economic war against Canada fail. He thinks that Canada will fold. His attacks just unites Canadians against him. No surrender to Magats. 🇨🇦
This is the reason why I didn't vote for this idiot!
He represents all Americans! WTF!
Global leaders are going to flatter this orange douche & he's going to sell the USA to the highest bidder because he prefers flattery / favor over America. Oh, that's right---trump already did that.
He wants our resources. He thinks we are prime real estate. He wants to make the USA the largest country in the world. Canada 🇨🇦 is the world's second largest country.
Canadians will never accept annexation.
🤣that's fucking hysterical. Ummm no bro you aren't! How ever we do power 3 of your states,provide fresh water,lumber to build your houses,cement. I could go on🙄
i think there is benefit to canada in having a well-informed, articulate president-elect 🤣 pondering canada's future in advance of a Canadian federal election (before next October). we have a trumpist alternative here (falling like a rock in current polling) and as trump goes, so does he. (1 of 2)
True. But Americans will have to solve their own problems. Canadians and Mexicans aren't going to end our nation's existence to solve foreign problems.
He’s not good at ruling. He wants to be king but he thinks it’s all power and wealth with zero responsibility. He never understood even the concept of “government”.
That's right, and on November 5, 2024, a plurality of American voters, knowing exactly what they were doing, freely voted FOR having Trump destroy the United States.
They won't relinquish power, they are criminals, rapists and grifters planning on bankrupting America to line their pockets. The election was not fair and free, they are extreme cheaters and there was obvious foreign interference Call for a re-vote now before it is too late. World peace is a stake.
But even Kamala Harris (Trump's main opponent) described the election as "free and fair" and she publicly vowed to respect its results.
NOTHING excuses the shocking, malicious irresponsibility of the voters. They were given the choice between "good" and "evil" and they chose the latter.
There were bomb threats at 67 or so polling stations (democratic leaning of course) they were traced to Russia.
If voting was shut down and the buildings cleared, who knows how many votes disappeared?
Shame on Meet the Press for letting this man say these things, and not immediately responding with "You are clearly sundowning, and everyone who heard the things you just said is now at least a few IQ points stupider for having heard it."
This is not funny. Can’t help but think Trump is using this rhetoric to justify taking over our neighboring countries like Hitler did with Poland, Austria, France etc and Putin is trying to do right now with Ukraine.
We should take this shit seriously.
Canada 🇨🇦 won't surrender. If Vietnam was bad, wait until he sees the guerilla warfare that Canadians will inflict on his invading forces.
The second largest country in the world will be difficult to hold, it would take massive numbers of troops while Canadians sabotage infrastructure in the USA.
He tries that shit with Mexico and CJNG will make the Taliban look like student protesters. He wouldn't just be the first US president since Bush to start a new war, he'd be the first to start a war that ends up on American soil since JAMES MADISON IN 1812.
Nobody needs you and nobody cares about your bleating. BTW, your not the president yet. Upset UK, Canada, India, Brazil, Mexico and South Africa. No wonder Mexico is building the wall to repel Americans trying to escape!
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It burned burned burned while the president ran & cried
It burned burned burned & things were very historical
& the americans ran & cried like a bunch of little babies wah wah wah in the war of 1812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW799AwI3m0
https://foreignassistance.gov/cd/canada/
It burned burned burned while the president ran & cried
It burned burned burned & things were very historical
& the americans ran & cried like a bunch of little babies wah wah wah in the war of 1812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW799AwI3m0
It burned burned burned while the president ran & cried
It burned burned burned & things were very historical
& the americans ran & cried like a bunch of little babies wah wah wah in the war of 1812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW799AwI3m0
tRump is mistaken about Canada. The US does send aid to Mexico. But that isn't a good reason for a sovereign nation to want to become a state.
Both 🇲🇽 & 🇨🇦 have mutually beneficial trade agreements w/ 🇺🇸
Maybe he should increase green energy, then the US wouldn’t buy so much from Canada resulting in a deficit.
I can’t wait to thank Donald Trump for four more Democratic Senators :-)
We will fight to the death to defend Canada from American annexation. If you want more Democratic Senators, you'll have to get more Americans to vote blue.
The death of Canada is not on the table just so you can get more Democratic Senators.
It burned burned burned while the president ran & cried
It burned burned burned & things were very historical
& the americans ran & cried like a bunch of little babies wah wah wah in the war of 1812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW799AwI3m0
Then there’s his “solution”, turning Canada and Mexico into U.S. states. What’s next, annexing Italy because we import too much pasta?
No more border! Completely open. Let 'em all in - tear down the wall!
After all, as Trump said, "some of them are nice people."
Dictators often attack neighbors.
That means Trump needs to learn French
Now if the reporter pushed back and asked to explain this "subsidy", that would be interesting.
* trump says he believes....
or better
* trump pretends he believes....
one can never know if he talks out of total actual ignorance or gaslighing/lying for effect.
It burned burned burned while the president ran & cried
It burned burned burned & things were very historical
& the americans ran & cried like a bunch of little babies wah wah wah in the war of 1812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW799AwI3m0
Oh, no, I'm sorry, our biggest trade surplus is with the Netherlands, so I guess we're their province now. Welkom, nieuwe eigenaren!
https://www.red-state-blues.com/2024/11/30/thanksgiving-weekjfk-taken-away-annual-gratitude-landslide-slides-down-incoming-madcap-admin/#Canada
I now regard the USA as a hostile rogue state, as an enemy who will at some point invade our country.
I am preparing for war and will, like many Canadians, defend Canada.🇨🇦 No orange malevolence is going to conquer Canada.
Many of us are quietly preparing for war should there be an invasion. Canadians will never surrender to the orange despot. We will defend Canada. 🇨🇦
Trump doesn’t care about any laws or treaties!
I wonder if Elmo is sharing his Ketamine with dementia boy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Water_and_Power_Alliance
We see it expressed daily in the House of Commons.
The majority of our media is owned by those same oligarchs and billionaires driving Project 2025.
🇨🇦
Prime Minister Trudeau wasn't elected to preside over my nation's death.
Americans have to solve their own problems without ending 🇨🇦 Canada's existence.
Even worse than him is the interviewer who goes along with his BS after a while
Let's buy Greenland.
"The trade deficit in goods and services was $41 billion with Canada and $162 billion with Mexico; a deficit simply means that one country’s consumers are buying more from the other nation, not giving money away."
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/08/us/politics/trump-nbc-interview-fact-check.html
Moron. Cretin. Nitwit. Twit. Dope.
This dictator must be eradicated along with the oligarchs in his orbit.
Eat the rich.
Regroup, rebel & revolt.
That's what Trump has effectively said and it is that far beyond stupid.
But let's go with all - MAGAs should boycott everyone who don't buy things directly from them, including Trump
Good enough reason for us not becoming a state?
Totally voluntary by the market.
America; you fucked up
When did republicans become anti-market?
Can someone explain what he is talking about when he says we subsidize Canada?
Grifting vs Actually Paying Bills.
Another 30% are apathetic aholes who couldn't be bothered.
Hopefully the 60% gets exactly what they voted for. And then wakes the fk up that their self-interests are at stake.
That's about 40% of population.
Canadians will never surrender our independence.
What an idiot
Not an interview topic--a declaration of evil.
That math ain’t mathin.
61b + 61b=122b
That total isn’t even $150b by itself???!!
Something is amiss.
Canada needs no dumbass trumpers.
Canada will never surrender to the orange malevolence!
He wants to invade Canada should his economic war against Canada fail. He thinks that Canada will fold. His attacks just unites Canadians against him. No surrender to Magats. 🇨🇦
He represents all Americans! WTF!
Global leaders are going to flatter this orange douche & he's going to sell the USA to the highest bidder because he prefers flattery / favor over America. Oh, that's right---trump already did that.
Canadians will never accept annexation.
What a fucking idiot.
What's he planning next? To invade them and take them over?
To boot, the per capita dollar amount transfer for Canada->USA: $10,681
USA->Canada: $1,392
US businesses are making a tremendous amount of money off Canada. Not the other way around.
Per capita trade deficit favors the US.
Where are the conspiracy theorists on this?! LOL!
Don't like this?
You shouldn't have voted for Trump.
NOTHING excuses the shocking, malicious irresponsibility of the voters. They were given the choice between "good" and "evil" and they chose the latter.
PERIOD.
If voting was shut down and the buildings cleared, who knows how many votes disappeared?
Cui bono?
RUSSIA and MUSK.
what we do need to know abt is the upcoming special elections in Jan
We should take this shit seriously.
The second largest country in the world will be difficult to hold, it would take massive numbers of troops while Canadians sabotage infrastructure in the USA.
He's an international disaster.