Jessica: There was someone on it who had been picked up as “tren de aragua” because there was a picture of him with a multicolored pistol they were saying was a gun, but it was a toy.
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I don’t know. If you’re tattooing bible verses on your body, you may be a Christian Nationalist who are the biggest threat to our Constitution, so I might be convinced that they should be deported, but not without due process.
He's not
But trump is never going to admit that because if he brings them back and due process shows many weren't criminals he looks like a fool on a GLOBAL stage
You'd think he'd be use to that already, but here we are
I wonder if her job is to gather evidence about the direction Fox viewers are starting to lean. They'd do it in order to plan advertising and talking points.
I'm sorry. By evidence I mean that the viewers reactions could be tracked in comments and across social media. She makes a good balance.
So she's like a living bot.
Tarlov’s their token democrat. She’s been doing this for years and she’s pretty compelling. They usually listen to her and when she’s done they go on with their bs, like she said nothing.
That would lead me to think that if my theory holds, then Fox's efforts have paid off. Data directs Capitalism and so the more expansive your data collection efforts are the more effective your marketing model will be, which brings more traffic to your product, if I'm not mistaken in my logic.
Wait, he's MS-13 now? A US (LA) based gang? After being in Maryland for 14 years? I thought he was from the Venezuelan gang, despite being from El Salvador. Leaving there -checks notes- to get away from gang violence. Hm... 🤔
MS-13 is absolutely NOT a US based gang out of L.A.
MS-13 started in El Salvador as a result of civil war.
Please do your research on this one. This statement is incorrect.
"Mara Salvatrucha, commonly known as MS-13, is an international criminal gang that originated in Los Angeles, California, in the 1980s. Originally, the gang was set up to protect Salvadoran immigrants from other gangs in the Los Angeles area."
I stand corrected. It was to my understanding that MS-13 was created as the result of the horrors of civil war there...
The entire thing is very complicated....as the U.S. helped to fuel that war.
Chicano/Hispanic street gangs in L.A. are a complicated story, in general.
Look at all the other hosts daydreaming and drawing, as soon as critical thinking is required they collectively start to drool but I guess that is keeping a cameraderie with the clientele
YES YES YES YES!!! ABSOLUTELY! Absolutely, yes, ANY pressure, but particularly legal (if still effective on these criminals, if not, we still hit with all other levers anyways) I think is great. It's OBVIOUSLY defamation, but we've been boiled as frogs to be like "oh that's just fox"
We need some legal input here. Who has standing to bring such a suit? I bet a lot of lawyers would do it pro bono or on spec, but we need a plaintiff. Like Garcia's wife? Other relatives of the innocent desapericidos?
Hmmm actually my friend knows/is friends with some lawyers that might have knowledge on someone who can help on the topic, maybe i can reahc out to them. And the first public name that comes to mind is Marc Elias, if you're familiar, or Luttig or ACLU, these might be good starter contacts for
digging in here. Could the plaintiff just be anyone, since due to the deprivation of due process? Maybe any maryland resident can sue in state court as well in maryland?
No fuck that, this is ILLEGAL, and criminal, and treasonous.,
Anyways, ABSOLUTELY thanks for saying that, I was thinking something similar the day before or something, because we MUST apply ALL pressure to BEND and/or BREAK these propaganda stations to the will of the people (and to reality)
This is jumping a few steps ahead perhaps, I'm not a lawyer, but any thoughts on how we can get the ball rolling on that? Or perhaps there are some groups that are already doing so. Maybe like the ACLU, if not already, we can communicate wiith them to hit these propaganda stations. Thoughts?
Possibly it would be impolite to point out that he wasn't "alleged" at the start to have been an MS-13 gang member either by ICE or Trump; they admitted straight up he was "A MISTAKE"
Only after they doubled-down wasn't it a "mistake" anymore. Suddenly he was an "alleged" gang member.
I was with her until the end, “they need to slow down and follow the process.” This is the process. This is intentional. What does she think this is? It’s not even deportation. These aren’t mistakes. They know they’re torturing innocent people.
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Right? Like sending them to a third country to a concentration camp forever is not deportation. When you’re deported you are sent to your home country and arrive a free citizen. They are not the same thing.
they saw a picture of him with a "gun" and that was enough reason to arrest him and deport him without due process... when he has no criminal record. so where is the nra? where are the gun loving asshole conservatives screaming second amendment bullshit from the rooftops? yep...
when are they going to start talking about how weak trump must be if he can't get these people back? that's how we get them back...make trump feel weak, make him prove he can do something!
Its not that they cant get them back its that they don't want them to appear in court. Once their due process is exercised the trump gov will look incompetent and be forced to say in court that they were mistaken.
Yet it's official public record when it's recorded in court. They are terrified of having due process on all of those people it would be grounds for impeachment if Congress flips in 18 months.
I believe the point was to make Trump appear a fool who is losing control. Only one way to show that is not the case, bring them back. Then Trump’ll start saving face by firing all the “responsible people who created this mess.”
When the trials for these fuckers happen they better add the thundercunts who do the chyrons that appear on Fox News, because they are the biggest aid in the speaking of false propaganda.
She’s right they’re dealing with toddlers, and perhaps some of the children on this panel will better understand know. I’m looking at you Pinot, oops I mean Piro.
Every time I see a clip of Tarlov saying something completely reasonable and correct, I think “why haven’t they put the response on here” and once I a while I get to see how one of these idiots responds and it’s always completely fucking moronic so that’s why.
Yeah, the rest of the segment is depressing. A smug jerk making a joke and deflecting, another smirking jerk saying he doesn't care because *insert derp*, a drunk judge who gets louder the more she lies, and another panelist who knows this is wrong, but 🤑.
I have an orange and black pistol. It shoots rubber bullets propelled by a CO2 cartridge. It's a non-lethal weapon that is legal in my state. It's not a toy. IT can hurt someone bad without killing them. Take that any way you wish.
How many MAGA have guns and not that shoot rubber bullets. Should all of them be sent to El Salvador, too? Or is it just the non-lethal ones they don't like?
My gang consists of me, a 69 year old woman, a 35 year old autistic man, two dogs and two cats. And we don't go out much. And we only shoot in self-defense. We're not much of threat to anyone. So yeah, they'll probably take me. I was born and raised in the USA. So were parents and grand parents.
My gang is currently just me. One old lady. I do worry as I've been bouncing around Mexico and Central America for the past three years. Not to mention I have an Arabic tattoo. I imagine that will make me suspicious to the orange SS at the border when I go back to the states
What is the rush? They are now detained, not a threat.
All the “details” about each case emphasizes people ARE NOT BEING PROVIDED THEIR RIGHT TO JUSTICE. When in this country, YOU HAVE RIGHTS to due process.
Denial of due process scares the hell out of me, it should scare you too. Sorry for caps.
So posting pictures of yourself with a weapon is grounds for deportation. I know a bunch of senators who have done that with their children. So when do we start rounding them up?
But somehow Congress members who pose their entire family with guns for Christmas card photos are not deportable criminals. Because nothing says I’m a Jesus loving American Christian like wielding an AR-15 in front of the nativity scene.
But ‘Hey-Zeus’ gotta go back to where he came from.
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MS-13 also speaks spanish
People who speak spanish are MA-13
QED
But trump is never going to admit that because if he brings them back and due process shows many weren't criminals he looks like a fool on a GLOBAL stage
You'd think he'd be use to that already, but here we are
Who will dare tell him he is a naked fool. He burned Michael Cohen.
(Calling out Trump for refusing to admit it)
Oh my
speak the truth.
So she's like a living bot.
MS-13 started in El Salvador as a result of civil war.
Please do your research on this one. This statement is incorrect.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS-13
The entire thing is very complicated....as the U.S. helped to fuel that war.
Chicano/Hispanic street gangs in L.A. are a complicated story, in general.
Trump needs a Time out
I'm almost certain their chyrons were "MS13 GANG MEMBER" not "alleged," before, just a few days ago, on the topic.
Either way, no doubt that our growing pressure is working.
Anyways, ABSOLUTELY thanks for saying that, I was thinking something similar the day before or something, because we MUST apply ALL pressure to BEND and/or BREAK these propaganda stations to the will of the people (and to reality)
Can’t have them telling the truth!
Only after they doubled-down wasn't it a "mistake" anymore. Suddenly he was an "alleged" gang member.
Orwell lives
He's a terrorist, human trafficker, murderer and gang member whenever they're on television.
Jessica is my hero today 🙌
It's hard to tell anymore...
Democrat or Republican, we all need to be relieved of this stupid fuck.
Shooting people with a manly gun is okay but using a gay gun on them is just too far.
Crossing fingers for the flock that’s a sign of Republicans taking down this regime.
Then Jessica brings the reciepts and...
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All the “details” about each case emphasizes people ARE NOT BEING PROVIDED THEIR RIGHT TO JUSTICE. When in this country, YOU HAVE RIGHTS to due process.
Denial of due process scares the hell out of me, it should scare you too. Sorry for caps.
Scare people into realizing this a real slip into total tyranny. Our parents, my father, went into wars to prevent this stupidity.
I know the answer is racism but jfc
But ‘Hey-Zeus’ gotta go back to where he came from.
Be super clear about your terms before you say you’re not against “deporting” people