This is INSANE. Even if you think Zelenskyy was out of line or rude or whatever in the Oval, the US government is going to just throw the entire country of Ukraine under the (Russian) bus over this? Toddlers in kindergarten behave better, and more strategically, than this. - ThreadSky

mehdirhasan.bsky.social • 70 days ago

This is INSANE. Even if you think Zelenskyy was out of line or rude or whatever in the Oval, the US government is going to just throw the entire country of Ukraine under the (Russian) bus over this? Toddlers in kindergarten behave better, and more strategically, than this.

Reposted from John Hudson

🚨The Trump administration is considering ending all ongoing shipments of military aid to Ukraine in response to Zelensky’s remarks in the Oval Office on Friday and his perceived intransigence in the peace process, per senior administration official

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alanpi.bsky.social•70 days ago

The orange idiot is a Russian asset...

mistykitty3.bsky.social•70 days ago

of course he is, since 1987. all that money he was "loaned" to bail out of 6 bankruptcies. why do magas not see that, and see it in 2016?

nsightful.bsky.social•70 days ago

Time to send an eviction notice to the White House. Trump will have to live elsewhere until the nation demands enforcement of the 25th Amendment. It most definitely applies to him.

lesliead717.bsky.social•70 days ago

what remarks exactly are so offensive?

uvotedforit.bsky.social•70 days ago

You have it backwards. They were always intending to end all military aid and staged this performance to justify it.

thedlee.bsky.social•70 days ago

"Wag the dog" comes to mind.

wargle1970.bsky.social•69 days ago

leewee83.bsky.social•70 days ago

trump has been looking for an "excuse" to do what he needs to do for Putin for a long time now! He was never going to do anything good. This is textbook abusive behavior. Literally, like dating an abusive person, they pick a fight when needed, say things like, say thank you..wow

nuggetsfan1.bsky.social•70 days ago

Don’t be fooled. It’s what they’re planned all along. They were just looking for an excuse that would make it look legit.

arashiishigawa.bsky.social•70 days ago

aging69ca.bsky.social•70 days ago

Zelensky isn't in the wrong here. Trump and Vance set Pres Zelensky up to push him to sign the earth mineral deal. He didn't want the deal unless it came with security guarantees, which Trump didn't want to give. Those two supposed 'leaders' acted like overgrown children.

kellyatilford.bsky.social•70 days ago

I'm trying to put together a list of current US allies.
🤔
(In no particular order)
North Korea
Saudi Arabia
Russia
Hungary
Turkey
....am I missing any?
Anyone?

chipduck.bsky.social•70 days ago

There is only one thing that might explain Trump’s behaviour with Zelensky. Somebody is putting Trump under enormous pressure, presumably with powerful leverage, to end the war. I can think of only one guy who might have such kompromat and desperately needs the war to end for his own survival.

floriankoch.bsky.social•70 days ago

Why are there no mass protests or general strikes? People should be raging by now.

katrina-cheshire.bsky.social•70 days ago

Of course they are. But they were going to do that anyway.. Russianstooges

It is a great betrayal by this Administration -of both Ukraine and of American values.

eko.org•70 days ago

Stand with Ukraine. Stand against Trump.
https://WorldVsTrump.com

tahoestoic.bsky.social•70 days ago

It was never about the minerals deal, it was about being able publicly tone check Zelenskyy so they could fabricate a reason for abandoning Ukraine and the EU as a favor to Russia.

dread-the-red.bsky.social•70 days ago

I’ve said since this started, it is not our problem. This is a European problem. Biden screwed up when he involved the US. They now have tens or hundreds of millions of or dollars. Who knows where the money really is, but one thing is certain, it was wasted. Let the Germans, French & Brits have him.

jegath.bsky.social•70 days ago

😡😡😡

notfascist.bsky.social•70 days ago

Trump is dangerously fragile.

argishow.bsky.social•70 days ago

An unmitigated DISASTER!! Shameful is what it is!🤬

curleeloc.bsky.social•69 days ago

🙌🏼

digitalpunx.bsky.social•70 days ago

It's crazy to me hearing them say he was being rude when they hardly let him say one word without barraging and bullying him, practically drowning out anything he tried saying like a bunch of 12 year olds, what an embarrassment

maitridiamond.bsky.social•70 days ago

This is exactly what #tRump regime wants; any excuse to throw Zelenskyy under the bus and further #russki political warfare.
No accusations of offense are too trivial, including attire:
https://www.rawstory.com/mtg-boyfriend-brian-glenn/

canadian9999.bsky.social•70 days ago

No need to give toddlers a bad name

docspkfree.bsky.social•70 days ago

This has been part of the 47 plan mostly because of the “perfect phone call” bullshit and then the never ending hatred of Biden.

ssej25.bsky.social•70 days ago

Vance, the Master-Baiter 🛋️.

@colbertlateshow.bsky.social

judykas.bsky.social•70 days ago

He’s been looking for a *plausible* reason to withdraw support- this was a set-up to that end. Needs to blame Zelenskyy because withdrawing support is so unpopular

lazysquirrel.bsky.social•70 days ago

Because trump isn't mentally competent... His narcissism and mental degradation (dementia...) destroys any chance of him ever acting rationally. Today, he suffered a narcissistic injury and is going to lash out over and over again. The people that are enabling him are disgustingly craven cowards.

hollowsmith.bsky.social•70 days ago

Great! What this will do is ensure that the EU moves in to fill this gap and solidify the separation for the US from the EU-NATO-UN bloc.

shawncoreymusic.bsky.social•70 days ago

Rude? Pretty clear who was rude

ria57.bsky.social•70 days ago

Zelenskyy was not rude and did nothing wrong. He was invited in under false pretenses to be publicly humiliated. Instead, trump and Vance made a disgrace of the U.S.

kim-slats.bsky.social•70 days ago

Wait a minute… are we also now going to blame Zelenskyy for the disgraceful behavior of our so called president and vice president? They lied, they yelled, they were disrespectful and Zelenskyy remained calm and spoke in normal volume, to combat their lies and bullshit. I STAND WITH ZELENSKYY!

fannespieter.bsky.social•70 days ago

He's fully aligned with Putins Russia. You know this, everybody knows this, but apparently, the ramifications are too scary to think through. Ukraine was always going to be thrown under the bus.

halfpint.bsky.social•70 days ago

Zelenskyy was not RUDE OR OUT OF LINE

leswhite.bsky.social•70 days ago

This is about China and BRICS, Medhi. Trump is way past Ukraine right now. He is looking for a way to pull Russia away from China. This theater gives him an excuse to cut off Ukraine in order to point their resources toward weakening BRICS.

drcrystinawyler.bsky.social•70 days ago

PRESIDENT ZELENSKY WAS NOT RUDE, OR OUT OF LINE!
He was standing up for TRUTH, UKRAINE, AND DEMOCRACY!
Let that sink in!!!
While the others in OUR OVAL were pushing putin's agenda.
DISGUSTING!!!

zencafe.bsky.social•70 days ago

Europe needs to step up and make us irrelevant in the war. They can do it and marginalize the effect of Drumpf on international diplomacy.

dwightfisher.bsky.social•70 days ago

Trump is a mob boss. He thinks he’s Tony Soprano. If you aren’t “thankful” enough (whatever that is) then you haven’t paid the proper “respect” he thinks he’s due. The whole thing was set up to make those claims against Zelensky.

montefalco890.bsky.social•70 days ago

But, but, but Zelenskyy didn’t wear a suit and tie.

iwantyoustudio.bsky.social•70 days ago

spookyflo.bsky.social•70 days ago

This is just an excuse to do what they obviously already wanted to do.

koolone.bsky.social•70 days ago

That was the plan any way.

sniffit.bsky.social•70 days ago

That was the plan from the get-go and why they arranged to cause this shitshow. Are you having trouble following along?

andreas-at.bsky.social•70 days ago

So much for the leader of the free world. F** you, America.

isometricfit.bsky.social•70 days ago

Hold on, America tonight after midnight they'll be some crazy tweets right after he watches all the news.

tljcourier.bsky.social•70 days ago

Why would I think he was rude or out of line he was being attacked by two assholes.

rrussell25.bsky.social•70 days ago

INSANE yes, but likely planned. Trump is owned by Putin so he stage this mess in an attempt to make it look like pulling out was Zelenskyy's fault. Scum of the earth is the only thing that comes to mind here....

harryjoy100.bsky.social•70 days ago

Has Putin offered any peace? I wasn't aware.

casporleder.bsky.social•70 days ago

Premeditated, orchestrated theatre to try to harm reduce a pre planned move

jc99whit.bsky.social•70 days ago

Vodka is flowing in Moscow.

boneidleben.bsky.social•70 days ago

You know it is! And now like a good boy Trump leaves town to play golf this weekend

hellobarbie.bsky.social•70 days ago

Huh? Who would think Zelenskyy was out of line?

frenshamrobin.bsky.social•70 days ago

The verdict on U.K. Channel 4 news was that this was a set up by Trump and Vance. It’s what they wanted. Performative bullying. America has crossed a line. Sunk into the sewer.

keriezy.bsky.social•70 days ago

Do not pull that "even if...." bullshit! This is a moment to be rude!

kc-rn.bsky.social•70 days ago

He was already going to do this. Today was just a set up so he could carry out the plan to discredit Zelensky and make it look like he was doing America wrong.

naturlvr.bsky.social•70 days ago

Zelenskyy is a man of honor and nobility. Our entire government can’t hold a candle to him!

cecefrombc.bsky.social•70 days ago

These people have no business leading our Country. They are traitors to Democracy

pongblip.bsky.social•70 days ago

Mafia respect demand....JD Vance is a little poop stirring cuck.....just say'n

pablodollard.bsky.social•70 days ago

When will countries learn not to deals with the devil / US? US have betrayed Ukraine repeatedly now, putting Zelenskyy into power, forcing Nato into Ukraine without the people having a say [and against the advice of its own intelligence services.] The US is 100% responsible for what happened next.

mosquitofleet.bsky.social•70 days ago

This was the plan all along. Everyone knew Trump would side with Russia and they voted for him anyway. These people are extremely hateful and gullible. They think we spend to much on Ukraine? Look at what we spent during the Cold War to counter USSR. This is insane. Trump is clearly in Putin’s lap.

thesoutherndad.bsky.social•70 days ago

Don't fucking validate this with even ifs. You're legitimizing the Russian Assets in the oval.

Do better, Medhi.

crispymainer.bsky.social•70 days ago

This was their plan. Trump and Putin’s. And Musk’s.
To think so many Republicans so eagerly handed away our Constitutional rights is staggering. It will be one of humanity’s most analyzed examples of self-destruction.
Grim. Enjoy these days of prosperity, they are rapidly ending. And arm yourself.

kevinstalder.bsky.social•70 days ago

Millions of Americans, on the left and right, feel one thing in common: that the game is rigged against people like them. There is a spreading recognition, on both sides of the ideological divide, that the system is broken, that the system has to change.

ddraiglinc.bsky.social•70 days ago

It was their intention all along. People still don't get it Russia has played the long game and it's got Trump, the Gop etc, Orban, Farage, Johnson in their pockets. Europe, Canada, UK, Australia, Japan need to get their act together pretty damn quick.

mistykitty3.bsky.social•70 days ago

it started with trump in 1987.

mistykitty3.bsky.social•70 days ago

yup!

conniebl3u.bsky.social•70 days ago

They had all intentions to do this anyways.

johnpenetra.bsky.social•70 days ago

Administration??? You mean all those bone spur criminals??

aligang.bsky.social•70 days ago

You're insulting toddlers. They're far more sophisticated than these traitorous fools

dailygrumbles.bsky.social•70 days ago

Europe is Ukrainians only hope.

bluebird-of-fury.bsky.social•70 days ago

I think this was their plan all along. Trump has always favored Putin, and his ego is still bruised when Zelenskyy wouldn't lie for him about Biden for the 2020 election. He's still seeking to humiliate Zelenskyy and wants revenge. The lives of Ukrainians mean nothing to him.

mobrock.bsky.social•70 days ago

And of course Zelensky was not rude at all. Not. At. All.

meganne23.bsky.social•70 days ago

It was a setup, he had already planned to end assistance to Ukraine. "The tyrant will always have a pretext for his tyranny"

leftaloneinusa.bsky.social•70 days ago

In nearly 80 years of da post-World War II order, NEVER have I witnessed a more SHAMEFUL, COWARDLY & TRAITOROUS BETRAYAL of American🇺🇸 & western democratic ideals — #PutinCockHolsters Trump & Vance now own a NEW INFAMY‼️
My advice 2 HEROIC Ukraine🇺🇦✌️leader Zelenskyy is 2 COMPLETELY BYPASS🇺🇸under Trump‼️

neo-soul.bsky.social•70 days ago

A bunch of fucking bastards 🤬 #trump #vance & #rubio

President #Zelensky has more courage in the tip of his small finger nail then these two retarded scums that are ripping off their own people in the #USA

#Ukraine is greater today than ALL of #America - is a shame to our world

#SlavaUkraini
🙏🇺🇦✊🇪🇺

taychljayjac.bsky.social•70 days ago

Trump is with Russia since 1980 s

suze309.bsky.social•69 days ago

It was a set up. Zelensky behaved way more appropriately than jackass Trump and his sidekick jackasses.

lobsterlawyer.bsky.social•70 days ago

He told you Trump and Vance
We’re not playing cards

cv-danes.com•70 days ago

I'm guessing next up Trump announces he's sending the minutions to Russia instead.

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sassy71.bsky.social•70 days ago

Like that wasn’t planned. They set up an excuse to not back Ukraine.

llamagogo.bsky.social•70 days ago

What are you talking about.. no one thought Zelenskyy was rude or out of line.. cut the shit.. surprised at your narratives lately

mwtevis.bsky.social•70 days ago

I agree. I was really an anti-war guy and, of course will always be, but when a sovereign nation is fighting for it's freedom against a dictator it only makes sense that the people fighting for survival are on the moral high ground. Putin could stop the war he started instantly.

ozmerican.bsky.social•70 days ago

This was a setup by Trump and Vance to humiliate Zelenskyy on the world stage. Trump even said “it will make great television”. They want to hand Ukraine to their beloved Putin on a silver platter!

ajmitchelluk.bsky.social•70 days ago

He was right. Putin has 0 interest. He’s priced that 3 times. Trump is so thick he can’t see it

minkadoo.bsky.social•70 days ago

They were going to do that all along, they just manufactured an excuse.

jacqlynsmith.bsky.social•70 days ago

Absolutely.

berds84.bsky.social•70 days ago

that is not what this country wants

arthurfrayne.bsky.social•70 days ago

The big balls move for XI: China halts shipments of armaments to Russia in light of the US move in the name of world peace

ethicaladvocate.bsky.social•70 days ago

This was the plan all along.

ghostofogden.bsky.social•70 days ago

This was just gonna happen anyways. Zelenskyy had the balls to rip the bandaid off.

mamabrunoskitchen.bsky.social•70 days ago

If this isn’t treason I don’t know what is

edpch38.bsky.social•70 days ago

in the coming day's we will see the reasoning behind all this BS

Like an excuse to stop aid!!!

eaglefern.bsky.social•70 days ago

This is how I feel today.

damace.bsky.social•70 days ago

Oh please, the sacred Oval Office where the POTUS hangs his mugshot?!

beachhermit.bsky.social•70 days ago

Mehdi, it’s not insane when you realize trump works for Putin. It’s exactly how it should be done.

hearadhrob.bsky.social•70 days ago

Let's be honest here. Zelensky was firm but polite. The outcome was never going to be different.

smuckinfarty.bsky.social•70 days ago

Zelensky did nothing wrong

subversivegranny.bsky.social•70 days ago

They planned this before Zelensky ever got to the WH. It was an ambush.

amethystjones1.bsky.social•70 days ago

Yep.

jamijo.bsky.social•70 days ago

Of course they are. That was always the plan

sfvioletnyc.bsky.social•70 days ago

Hello CIA, the threat to US national security is sitting in the Oval Office. You know dump sold secrets to Russia when your undercover agents started to get killed in unprecedented numbers. Do something before he destroys the whole country. What is the point of the agency if you can’t save us?

ninalottanumbers.bsky.social•70 days ago

More over anybody who is feels PresZ was rude(polite souls who want the tone to stay conversational?) would have to concede the JDV&PresT were even louder, bombastic, antagonistic. They were the schoolyard bully&toadie picking on an actual serious adult who didn't say 'thank you may I have another'

varricschesthair.bsky.social•70 days ago

Trump is Putin's bitch but failed to bring home the deal his Russia Daddy wanted bc Zelenskyy didn't just shut up and take their performative bullshit.

marginalsc.bsky.social•70 days ago

Bear in mind, their "peace process" involves Ukraine surrendering.

rachelwolf.org•70 days ago

I do not appreciate the way you framed your post. Shame on you. In what world was PRESIDENT Zelenskyy "out of line or rude or whatever"? And you really used the word "whatever"? Turn in your Cracker Jack press credential.

lastgreatact.bsky.social•70 days ago

Trump needs to fuck off.

jasoncross.org•70 days ago

They were always going to. The whole thing was a setup. Hence the Russian state media in the WH.

Watching it, it was totally clear that Trump/Vance planned to bully Zelensky from the start.

mapragmatist.bsky.social•70 days ago

The American people need to say otherwise. Millions in the streets.

megster55.bsky.social•70 days ago

How can you not be defensive when your country was invaded by an autocrat who's purposefully bombed children and women and has kidnapped 20,000 children? He has every right to his words! Putin is a war criminal.

miwolverine92.bsky.social•70 days ago

It's almost as if they were looking for an excuse to justify helping Putin..

boneidleben.bsky.social•70 days ago

They probably had a dress rehearsal for it.

aj-b.bsky.social•70 days ago

The UK and Europe should step up. NOW.

aj-b.bsky.social•70 days ago

No he was not rude. This is Trumps retribution on Zelenskyy for not doing the corrupt report on Biden. Trump Vance are a fucking disgrace.

trevers.bsky.social•70 days ago

I don't recall him being rude once! I do remember him calling out trumps lies and bullshit though, which is more then our media does.

maidax.bsky.social•70 days ago

What I saw was Zelensky verbally defend his country and Trump and Vance defend Russia as well as Trump's fragile ego that demands people constantly grovel and ingratiate themselves to him.

chrisgodinho.bsky.social•70 days ago

This isn't retaliation, it's just the excuse. If Zelenskyy has sucked Trump's toes in the Oval Office they would've done the same thing.

michie88.bsky.social•70 days ago

Can please someone explain *exactly* what Zelensky did like I'm a 5 year old?

thecontentkid.bsky.social•70 days ago

My guess is that they wanted to do this anyway. “Peace” is what they’re looking for, remember? 🙃

mncatlady4.bsky.social•70 days ago

https://crisisrelief.un.org/t/ukraine#:~:text=The%20Ukraine%20Humanitarian%20Fund%20is,humanitarian%20relief%20on%20the%20ground.

In the economic black out against trump today let us make him really mad and start donating aid to Ukraine. Every dollar counts as a Fuck you to trump. Good can fight evil with hope.

theirminsul.bsky.social•70 days ago

Ukraine needs to start acting like Israel, Americas greatest ally.

ddd-bluesky.bsky.social•70 days ago

Thankfully most of US military assistance is ploughed into American defense contractors pockets. Ending military aide will piss off a genuinely powerful lobby.

shriketron.bsky.social•70 days ago

This was completely the ambush. They've taken out US employees for less.

okloveyou2.bsky.social•69 days ago

We saw this coming ,especially after trump was partially impeached for withholding Aid before.

cpdickenson.bsky.social•70 days ago

It’s not a reaction to the meeting. The meeting was staged as a pretense for this

carlak.bsky.social•70 days ago

Totally 500%. When will people realize that they're not stupid or rude, but following an evil playbook?

It's called Project 2025.

rozencraft.bsky.social•70 days ago

He'll change his mind when Europe decides to tariff US 😾

Never forget 45 soft-pitched destroying NATO during his first clown show…

talentedripley.bsky.social•70 days ago

He was simply trying to correct their LIES. It felt like a set up cuz Trump thinks it makes him seem tuff. Trump is so weak.

tatadude.bsky.social•70 days ago

Don’t even humor the Zelensky was rude nonsense. Vance insulted Zelensky by suggesting he was being cruel to Ukrainian conscripts. Meanwhile Russian throws 18 year olds on the front line with minimal training and lousy equipment. Utterly shameful!!

klca.bsky.social•70 days ago

I don’t think Zelenskyy deserves any criticism for his efforts to defend his country and stand up to the bullying by Trump and Vance.

deblavoy.bsky.social•70 days ago

There’s no way that wasn’t a forgone conclusion that was in place before that meeting.

johnnynovio.bsky.social•70 days ago

Crime boss is going to crime boss.

shadowfaxts.bsky.social•70 days ago

This was always the plan with this meeting at the whitehouse. Some obscure excuse to end everything and bolster Russia. America is a Russian satellite

rolfparrish1962.bsky.social•70 days ago

Zelensky was well and truly set up and ambushed in the Oval Office. Putins puppets desperate for business deals rather than security

unfitapparel.bsky.social•70 days ago

Russian Asset
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buetter.bsky.social•70 days ago

Don’t concede a thing about Zelenskyy’s words/behaviour! Vance spoke out of his ass and Zelenskyy simply said they’ve had a signed peace agreement and Putin has broken it before. Then Vance went off. Zelenskyy wasn’t rude nor was his behaviour questionable. Jeez.

2littlegaypuppies.bsky.social•70 days ago

Laughing from Putin.

scsualum.bsky.social•70 days ago

Trump was looking for a reason to withhold the aid…not that he needs a reason to throw a tantrum and hurt others.

mwilk19.bsky.social•70 days ago

This was a setup. Trump and Vance put this little performance together to use as an excuse to cut Ukraine loose and surrender them to Russia.

ridleys.bsky.social•70 days ago

I can’t help thinking that Trump’ demonstrated his capacity for self control and he has control of the worlds largest nuclear arsenal.

siannen.bsky.social•70 days ago

Zelenskyy was never rude or out of line. You have him confused with the other two in the interview. They treated him like abusive, narcissistic parents treat a toddler, tried to wrongly correct him about the war he has lived, and pulled a mafia move with the "say thank you or else" bullshit.

diligent1-84.bsky.social•70 days ago

IT WAS ATROCIOUS how trump treated Zelenskyy! He has proven how scared he is of VZ and just what a little man he is!

jstlistening.bsky.social•70 days ago

Clearly they were already planning to dump them, they just needed stool JD to create a scene.

motorcyclelife.bsky.social•70 days ago

He stood up for himself and Ukraine with honour and respect
I guess it’s easy to suggest he was rude because they have Neither Honour nor Respect and certainly aren’t brave

sudhamurthy.bsky.social•70 days ago

Zelensky was not rude. Trump and Vance were arrogant bullies

griffgor.bsky.social•70 days ago

I mean, I think that was their plan all along? It's not so much an overreaction as them finding an excuse to do what they've long wanted

alicialou.bsky.social•70 days ago

Dump & Co we’re going to do this all along! This was preplanned so they have an “excuse” to do so, after saying he’d end the war on day one.

michellega.bsky.social•70 days ago

Can confirm toddlers and kindergartners behave better than this, but they also usually have an adult in the room.

kmburk.bsky.social•70 days ago

I’ve taught toddlers. Not even close.

gregsanderson.bsky.social•70 days ago

I was surprised President Zelensky even went. It seemed like a trap. Especially following the US vote at the UN a few days ago when Donald made his position quite clear.

There would be no security guarantee. That would have upset Putin. So Ukraine would sign away its wealth for ... ? Nothing.

johnadamsghost.bsky.social•70 days ago

Of course they are. This was the goal all along. Even Zelensky knew at the end of the meeting that US support is over. He walked out like Reagan at Reykjavik

longbowman.bsky.social•70 days ago

They just randomly find an excuse to do this.

amyb-abq.bsky.social•70 days ago

The Party told you to ignore the evidence of your eyes and ears.

sedger.bsky.social•70 days ago

😡 I am so embarrassed for the US right now. Disgusting bullies. They set Zelenskyy up.

imyourmerlin.bsky.social•70 days ago

Why are we allowing this illegitimate regime to continue, this isn’t logical, they need to be stopped now.

martinrobertson.bsky.social•70 days ago

This is what they planned for fk sake

tbas7000.bsky.social•70 days ago

Definitely more strategically.

menenkim.bsky.social•70 days ago

Why even say he was rude??? He wasn’t. FFS.

maksymlozofficial.bsky.social•70 days ago

Like why even entertain that non existent false notion that Zelenskyj was being rude. I mean cmon. By now you should know who and what trump is about.

maksymlozofficial.bsky.social•70 days ago

Zelenskyj was not once rude. Why even through that into the conversation.

leewee83.bsky.social•70 days ago

It's ust typical abusive behavior to say that. He feels he needs to lie and say that so he can now move on to do what he needs to for Putin. Doesn't matter if it's not true.

thisplaceiswild.bsky.social•70 days ago

He over spoke Trump many times and called JD a bitch in Russian two times. Wake up.

Trump showed incredible restraint.

shriketron.bsky.social•70 days ago

Zelenskyy talked and replied instead of kissing feet.

That's all the rude they were looking for.

minutesdrag.bsky.social•70 days ago

Unfortunately, I think you’re right. 🤬🤬

sjm86.bsky.social•70 days ago

You are 100% right!! Can’t believe this is happening!

centristdronepilot.bsky.social•70 days ago

Good thing he never said he was rude, then!!

lupine-assassin.bsky.social•70 days ago

Zelenskyy kept his composure and wasn't about to let anyone take advantage of him.

andii29.bsky.social•70 days ago

And Europe is destabilised by default

Almost like you've switched sides

becassine2.bsky.social•70 days ago

It was a trap so he could do this don’t be deceived

jonesro.bsky.social•70 days ago

They were all about generated a pretense to do with Putin has instructed them to do

yoselly.bsky.social•70 days ago

He wasn’t rude. He was ambushed and he defended himself. And yes. This is all insane!

christina55.bsky.social•70 days ago

There is nothing Zelensky could say or do, and nothing he said or did today for this to happen. It was always going to be, once convict trump got to office. Everyone needs to stop blaming the abused for the abusers behavior.

linzelou.bsky.social•70 days ago

Zelenskyy was not rude. I've had narcissistic, pathological liar bosses before... They accuse you of "yelling" or "being rude" just because you clearly and simply state your case. They perceive any application of logic as an attack so they accuse others of the very things they themselves are doing

crt73.bsky.social•70 days ago

He wasn’t rude. He simply stood his ground. With more grace and poise than either Trump or Vance after being ambushed like two high school hallway bullies.

bluechick99.bsky.social•70 days ago

Lemme guess Trump is having a huge NARCISSISTIC RAGE FIT over Zelensky standing firm for democracy and refusing to bow to Trump.

When you call it what it is… he’s a like a toddler who cannot control himself.

toonhabraken.bsky.social•70 days ago

This was the plan all along

gordonvincent.bsky.social•70 days ago

It's adorable that you even pretend that today's meeting was the pretext for abandoning Ukraine rather than the prologue to it.

captlou.bsky.social•70 days ago

Because that was the plan all along. They ambushed him to justify cutting them off (probably at Putin’s request). Also it would be illegal to stop any aid authorized by Congress but that hasn’t stopped this dictator or the weak GOP who allow it.

bust3d00.bsky.social•70 days ago

Tramp and his Muppet were rude and disrespectful

Very obvious it was a set up

1984georgeorwell.bsky.social•70 days ago

They just created the excuse they needed.

Good thing that it is so transparently clear to the world.

lfmc6.bsky.social•70 days ago

Yes - it is good that everyone has been able to see what they’re like and what they’re up to. They think it casts them in a good light!! Deranged.

emma-ket.bsky.social•70 days ago

I truly think this was the plan from the off. It wouldn’t shock me at all if Trump had a plan to buy ‘raw earth’ from Putin.

temporal-wolf.bsky.social•70 days ago

I'm hoping the deal says raw earth and Ukraine just ships Trump a few barges of dirt.

knipyzzuf.bsky.social•70 days ago

It doesn’t matter what Zelensky says or does. This was always Trump’s endgame.

motse.bsky.social•70 days ago

Zelensky did not disrespect anyone. Stop floating this blatantly false claim

severn3024.bsky.social•70 days ago

Are you kidding? This was his plan all along!

darthfos.bsky.social•70 days ago

He wasn’t even remotely rude while being ambushed by angry lying toddlers who were trying to provoke him.

am-mccarthy.bsky.social•70 days ago

This is just an excuse they'll use for something they were going to do anyway.

garyknits.bsky.social•70 days ago

He was always going to give Ukraine to Putin. Just like Musk was always going to sell our financial data to Putin and open our classified computer networks to Putin’s hackers. And Tulsi is now sharing our former allies’ secrets with him as well.

enots406.bsky.social•70 days ago

It was an ambush. This was the intended outcome.

sadcommunistdog.bsky.social•70 days ago

Not only is this horrible for Ukraine as the US state department abandons all pretenses of cooperation, it also burns essentially any remaining good will towards the American political machines such that the US will not be trusted by any ally-state for decades to come

sadcommunistdog.bsky.social•70 days ago

I don't understand how conservatives are even celebrating this when this is a means by which US power degrades abroad. Obliterating one of the few decent things the state department has done is ultimately a sign post that the US cannot be depended on, even by other post-colonial powers.

darkphoenixff4.bsky.social•70 days ago

Because the conservatives have decided to stop pretending they give a fuck about diplomacy and instead they want to start acting like an empire.

sadcommunistdog.bsky.social•70 days ago

This is the opposite of empire. The US was already an empire and is now decaying into am empty throne, piloted instead by heuristic oligarchs who quibble amongst eachother and have held power for so long they cannot see it slipping away from them.

darkphoenixff4.bsky.social•70 days ago

I agree. When I say they want to act like an empire, I mean they want to act like the British and Spanish Empires. "Oh, you have resources we want? Okay, we're going to invade and take them at gun/swordpoint!"

right-wing-dude.bsky.social•70 days ago

Given that white Americans originated from Europe and colonised America, this is still in their DNA.

stevieinselby.bsky.social•70 days ago

Zactly. The US will now be put in the same category as Russia and China by the rest of the western world – powerful, but not to be trusted an inch, and predominantly hostile and dangerous.

mxhrad.bsky.social•70 days ago

Conservatives want America to be exactly like Putin’s Russia.

getlostokie.bsky.social•70 days ago

I hate it here.

jiffwoof.bsky.social•70 days ago

this was the whole goal along - fucking traitors to our values

littleedie.bsky.social•70 days ago

I think the televised meeting was just a pretext and they were planning to bail on Ukraine all along. trump is besties with Putin. This was all planned, I suspect.

ballerinax.bsky.social•70 days ago

This is why there was russian press there until they were recognized and called out.

littleedie.bsky.social•70 days ago

This entire presidency was planned and coordinated by Putin, not least to accomplish what happened today. It's been plain to see for the longest time. What I can't believe is how many of the DC press and pundits ever expected anything different.

archvillain.bsky.social•70 days ago

Of course Trump was going to bail all along. That's why I posted that Zelensky would be foolish to sign any deal. Europe is Zelensky's future now. They have to unite and defend one another. As long as Trump is in power here the US is non compos mentis and more likely to fight for Putin.

littleedie.bsky.social•70 days ago

Yup.

littleedie.bsky.social•70 days ago

I mean, the man has been repeating Kremlin talking points forever.

khlavkalash.bsky.social•70 days ago

I had the exact same thought when I saw this.

littleedie.bsky.social•70 days ago

Yep. It's all a plan that's been in the works for a long, long time. Putin's incredibly lucky to have a puppet as stupid as trump, whom he can manipulate with almost no effort, and trump's army of desperate, sleazy minions who are willing to sell out the US, Europe, Ukraine, and democracy.

andreastocco.com•70 days ago

Exactly what I think

littleedie.bsky.social•70 days ago

I mean, they haven't exactly made a secret of it, right?

andreastocco.com•70 days ago

No they haven't... 😭

kat-joiseygirl.bsky.social•70 days ago

Their plan was to invite him and provoke him to give them this excuse

bearfuzzy.bsky.social•70 days ago

#IStandWithUkraine

…..I don’t stand with dictator/king wannabes.

durufle68.bsky.social•70 days ago

The cruelty is the point!!!

pathsnpaddles.bsky.social•70 days ago

He wasn’t rude. He was hot by a train. It was a set up. America better decide what side of history they want to be on. And we in Canada need to start strengthening our forces, we’re likely next.

pathsnpaddles.bsky.social•70 days ago

*hit not hot

ferg24.bsky.social•70 days ago

It was already that plan.

mastorofpuppetz.bsky.social•70 days ago

This was the plan. It’s all theatre a setup

rvallenduuk.bsky.social•70 days ago

Zelenskyy rude? I have the utmost respect for the guy. He kept his cool when Trump and Vance ganged up, insulting him and his country.
This was embarrassing for Trump. A disgrace for the USA. The first time he encounters someone who says it as it is, and he throws his toys out of the pram.

boneidleben.bsky.social•70 days ago

I believe this was planned and rehearsed. Trump displayed his loyalty to Putin.

rvallenduuk.bsky.social•70 days ago

A planned ambush it may have been, but it still looked pretty bad.
Rachel Maddow just did a nice piece on Trump and his loyalty to Russia:
https://youtu.be/Zn9BTALjtLY

elaineadihughes.bsky.social•70 days ago

Suggesting that Zelensky might have been out of line or rude by the way he responded to the gaslighting criminal in the WH is bizarre and irresponsible.

phprincess.bsky.social•70 days ago

Dear World: please boycott America! #boycottUSA

aggiewill666.bsky.social•70 days ago

Impeach That is incompetence

montemerrick.bsky.social•70 days ago

um, T + JD had already stabbed Zelenskyy in the back before today

davemc5192.bsky.social•70 days ago

Then Eu should impound the $200bn Russian SWF & go all out to fund & arm Ukraine, even if that means using Countries stocks assigned for NATO

nre21.bsky.social•70 days ago

The man is standing up, fighting for his country! Being humiliated by an orange, fat, smelly, pig in a planned attack/ show! He wasn’t “rude”enough!

centristdronepilot.bsky.social•70 days ago

I'm always amazed at the number of people who straight up cannot read. I read Mehdi's post here like 15 times and at no point does he even imply that Zelenskyy was rude. I think people are desperately scrambling for someone or something to be mad at, and they'll settle for any target no matter what.

nayabean.bsky.social•70 days ago

Mehdi, do you think he was out of line or rude? Why are you even bringing that up as a possibility? Did you not watch the video?

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