Conservative talk radio existed before the Doctrine was repealed by the FCC. Restoring it won't make conservative commentary disappear. Further, stations were not required to give equal time for alternative views. The ratio was never 50:50 back then and that was OK.
Foreigner ask - what is the fairness doctrine in the US of A and if its to be restored today what will be the implication especially with new set of social issues ? Thank you
Losing the Fairness Doctrine was bad - shoulda been codified - but that didn’t cause FOX’s rise, which came years later. Bork and Scalia made sure it didn’t apply to cable in the first place. It did launch Limbaugh, though.
It’s good and right that it didn’t apply to cable — since none of the key reasons for upholding it in the face of the 1969 First Amendment challenge of it apply to cable.
Murdochs, Musk, Cruz, Huang, Peterffy, Thiel, Soros and other powerful people are all immigrants who are changing American society and not for the best. If an immigrant is damaging the country they moved to that country has every right to rescind citizenship and deport anyone!
It would seem to me that a modernized Fairness Doctrine that accounts for today's technology might actually have an opportunity to be passed. Republicans scream about censorship because they can't lie w/impunity & Democrats can use that to craft a bill would bring a new FD they could agree on
Like they supported a ban on price gouging for gas prices. Only for the cameras, and not at all in practice.
They have opposed the idea vehemently and howled about any Democrats possibly entertaining its return.
Oh, I don't think it would be easy to accomplish. Crafting it would be a huge challenge & would be repeatedly before SCOTUS. Just as issues like this still end up in courts. Both sides should be able to find some agreement to address some issues
The ban on Cigarette advertising was part of the Master Settlement with the tobacco companies in 1998. It has nothing to do with the First Amendment.
Not sure what NASCAR races you've been watching, but BUSCH BEER is a presenting sponsor of the Cup Series. Alcohol ads are not banned anywhere
NASCAR is not allowed to advertise cigarettes or hard liquor. So you're saying that a settlement with the government that regulates a corps 1A rights isn't regulation by the government on speech. Okay
The person who just went a little postal in the comments based on a bold assumption is no longer with us. I don’t have time to talk down people who are raging around accounts with a lot of followers instead of having a conversation. Yes, we all know the Fairness Doctrine didn’t apply to cable news.
However, gutting the Fairness doctrine lead to the unequal coverage that we see from every outlet. And in an election cycle where one candidate who is polling ahead or tied is openly threatening to jail journalists with impunity, the lack of balanced coverage and tone is absolutely problematic.
Agreed. This needs to be said more often! Ladt time I posted this sentiment. I had to block someone who said I didn't know what I was talking about, so even THEY know it's got to go!
Until Americans understand that corporations cannot be allowed to own journalistic outlets, democracy will continue to crumble. The powerful cannot hold the powerful to account.
Conservative talk radio existed before the repeal of the Fairness Doctrine. The station just had to provide at least a little bit of an alternative view to comply with the Doctrine. It may help to restore it, but it won't make conservative talking heads disappear.
I do think it needed an update, to label cable and partisan shows as opinion. However, presenting even a little of the opposing viewpoint without prejudice is a lot more impactful than you might think. It subtly labels the preceding rant as opinion.
I'd like something far better than a pre-cable TV-and-internet fairness doctrine. I reckon it would be pretty useless now. Have you considered looking at what other countries have that works well for them?
It all started many decades ago, when people like Murdoch were unimpeded by regulations to own ever more of the press, use it to lobotomize people at scale, sway and own public opinion, shape the stupidest of cultures, and act as kingmakers for governments to benefit the rich. Worst scum on Earth.
We cannot save democracy without radical change in mass and social media regulation. This has become politically difficult to achieve but needs at least be proposed and debated! Even getting started, it would take years to become effective enough to see social change (i.e. less of an idiocracy).
Listening to the Dems mea culpas makes me want to vomit. TRUMP WAS RE-ELECTED BECAUSE ALL OF MEDIA NORMALIZED FASCISM. PERIOD. HITLER 2.0. THE FIGHT CAN ONLY BE WON BY TAKING EVERY LYING FOX (et al) CLIP, SUPERIMPOSE THE WORD LIES ACROSS IT AND THEN REDISTRIBUTE IT ACROSS ALL MEDIA. FIGHT ALL LIES.
Right. The FD only applied to broadcast media over airwaves, not cable or subscription TV. Further, conservative talk radio existed before the repeal of the Doctrine.
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1. The Fairness Doctrine never would have applied to Fox News, as it **only** ever applied to broadcast programming and not cable.
2. Much of the damage was done in '96, with the Telecommunications Act signed by Clinton. That allowed single ownership of multiple markets.
Lots of people went syndicated during that era. That was something stations did to lower costs and gain revenue.
Stern was also syndicated and that was with stricter FCC regs in place. Didn’t matter.
Also, Clinton's removal of regulation in the Telecommunications Act allowed for media consolidation. Dumbest thing he ever did. Monica was second.
They have opposed the idea vehemently and howled about any Democrats possibly entertaining its return.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_doctrine
It was originally the:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayflower_doctrine
Problem is there's really no way to begin to enforce it. Would it be on the platform to do it? Or each individual user?
For a grand example, the DMCA is one that gets horrible abused, and the systems platforms put in place are atrocious.
Do you see posted warnings wherever you go?
That's regulated 1A "modernized"
Not sure what NASCAR races you've been watching, but BUSCH BEER is a presenting sponsor of the Cup Series. Alcohol ads are not banned anywhere
But, thanks to certain SCOTUS rulings...
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The FD had exactly nothing to do with cable channels and isn’t what she’s suggesting it was.
Of course that account blocked me instead of taking down her misinformation.