The purpose is of course to spread the misinformation, no matter how many times it’s debunked. More people will hear & take in his initial fear-mongering than will see the corrections. This is how they operate & it is entirely deliberate. And Goodwin is used to embarrassing himself on this topic - ThreadSky

zoejardiniere.bsky.social • 143 days ago

The purpose is of course to spread the misinformation, no matter how many times it’s debunked.

More people will hear & take in his initial fear-mongering than will see the corrections. This is how they operate & it is entirely deliberate.

And Goodwin is used to embarrassing himself on this topic

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skirmishmonkey.bsky.social•143 days ago

I think the question he needs to be asked is "by non British, do you mean non white", because that's clearly what he's getting at.

roysaywhatnow.bsky.social•143 days ago

I'm not sure. I think we passed the point where asking him any questions is helpful. He doesnt need to be included in the process of debunking him.

jilx.bsky.social•143 days ago

This is a good point - why engage with anybody who makes a statement as if it's fact, and then when challenged responds that they'd need to look at the figures?

myshka689908.bsky.social•143 days ago

Exactly. He's a professional liar who will never debate in good faith.

hlothere.bsky.social•143 days ago

So true, this clip and point can be returned to. It's not over, because he's lied again with 48/49% lol.

ignorantme.bsky.social•143 days ago

There's a name for that

robinknox.bsky.social•143 days ago

Hard to talk to someone who doesn't want to listen.

jac666.bsky.social•143 days ago

"I'd need to look at the statistics" he responds. Well, why the hell didn't he look at the statistics before churning out fabricated nonsense?

conciousawareness.bsky.social•143 days ago

Can you comment this to him if you are still on Twitter? I closed down my account.

rsk-1m.bsky.social•143 days ago

🎯

namaru44.bsky.social•143 days ago

Could anyone tell me who the interviewer was there? Is there a link to the full vid? Keen to see how Goodwin responded.

namaru44.bsky.social•143 days ago

Thanks!

riverlorien.bsky.social•143 days ago

It's Mehdi Hasan. It's likely on his YouTube (Zeteo)

zoejardiniere.bsky.social•143 days ago

It was indeed Mehdi, but on a show called head to head on Al Jazeera. Worth watching the whole thing, Goodwin was comprehensively taken down.

riverlorien.bsky.social•143 days ago

Great thanks. I'd seen clips before. Medhi always brings receipts :)

riverlorien.bsky.social•143 days ago

This seems to be it...

https://youtu.be/BwB6x8CUkZA?si=BXjelCjd1yh2dhSP

pamnashes.bsky.social•143 days ago

📌

jaksays.bsky.social•143 days ago

Matt Goodwin's words obviously sound better in mid 20th century German

Much like his racist views

retiredliving.bsky.social•143 days ago

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walata44.bsky.social•143 days ago

I think what he was scared to say was 50% are not white British.

lanzz.org•143 days ago

"I'd need to look at the statistics" well perhaps you should have looked at the statistics before making shit up, Matt

lucyarnold.bsky.social•143 days ago

EXACTLY! 👏

johnnieburdette.bsky.social•143 days ago

It’s what cranky right-wingers, such as #ElonMusk, like to describe as free speech.

trelawnythebar.bsky.social•143 days ago

To state the obvious, it is simply "confirmation bias". You hear (and remember) that which is consistent with your beliefs. You ignore information which contradicts your beliefs.

To be fair, we all do it.

dcprogress.bsky.social•143 days ago

Yes, but of course there’s no comparison between a bias in favor of tolerance, integration, the value of diversity and a bias against non-whites and more generally the “other” as being destructive to society. Well, there is a comparison and it doesn’t look good for the haters.

dseelandwrites.bsky.social•143 days ago

📌

mickrab.bsky.social•143 days ago

So don't do it! Ignore him.

zoejardiniere.bsky.social•143 days ago

There’s no more ignoring the far right and their lies I’m afraid. They are too powerful now for that to work. We have to confront them.

mickrab.bsky.social•143 days ago

I wouldn't know who Goodwin was or that he existed without people reposting him.

stunisbett.bsky.social•143 days ago

I had to look him up. Apparently he's well educated and highly regarded. Shame he's not putting it to good use.

countmouse.bsky.social•142 days ago

Deleted the answer I gave you, I messed up the name and thought about the wrong Goodwin. Sorry about that.

papadoogie.bsky.social•143 days ago

The National Socialist Party only got 3% of the vote in 1924. People also ignored them. Far Right politics and populism is always lurking and they need to be stamped out and exposed whenever they poke their heads up and start spouting BS.

mickrab.bsky.social•143 days ago

Stamping them out? That's working well.

papadoogie.bsky.social•143 days ago

Well, no, it’s not. Which is kinda my point - the sheer deceit of their agenda has been left to simmer without nearly enough confrontation and exposure to that deceit. So if you recognize the fact that the far right are gaining more and more traction, perhaps ignoring them is not the answer?

mickrab.bsky.social•143 days ago

I guess my basic problem is that the far right can't be countered by facts, reason or logic. Their appeal is visceral, which is only multiplied by repeated exposure.

papadoogie.bsky.social•143 days ago

Now there is the crux of the problem! Logic and facts can’t compete against emotions and how people feel. And they crave that constant validation from the right to reinforce those views and shield them from the realization that they have been duped.

mickrab.bsky.social•143 days ago

Fair point
But where would Farage be now without the relentless promotion he got on the media?
Screaming into the void.

papadoogie.bsky.social•143 days ago

But he was never screaming into the void once he was able to extend his reach with social media. He had the backing of companies like Cambridge Analytica underpinning everything he said and whispering in the ears of all those Facebook accounts. Extremism grows behind closed doors.

elainedennyphd.bsky.social•143 days ago

I wish BBC joirnalists like Nick Robbinson, Justin Webb, Emma Barnett (none of whom seem to be on bsky) were as forensic in their interviewing as this.

annharries.bsky.social•143 days ago

Mehdi is outstanding. His brain must just be full of statistics, but to be fair Nick Robinson is also an extremely good interviewer just with a different style

elainedennyphd.bsky.social•139 days ago

I can’t agree. Nick Robinson interrupts a lot and his Tory leanings show in his interviews.

nickdblake.bsky.social•143 days ago

You should read (or listen to as I did!) Mehdi Hasans book ‘win every argument’. He’s the interviewer and you can see his tactics here. Superb. Keep your receipts

fib3.bsky.social•139 days ago

Mathew Badwin couldn't tell the truth if his life depend on it.

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