Can't help wondering: would the pre-Trump FBI been on top of this enough to stop it before it happened? (Caught the guy before he could ignite the bomb?)
Trump's FBI is spending so much time investigating Trump's "enemies" that I wonder if they're on top of domestic terrorism at all.
Every time they pretend to stop a terrorist attack, theyre all over TV justifying the erosion of Liberty and Constitutional Rights to "keep us safe". Remember the underwear bomber, the shoe bomber, the whitmer inside job, front pages news for days. See See! trampling on your rights is justified!
I don't know the actual stats but I believe most of the terrorist plot ppl the fbi caught were actually plots created and advanced by the fbi themselves.
If it’s some lone guy, it’s almost impossible to catch somebody doing something like this. You should actually be happy about that, the alternative is a disgusting level of surveillance.
But if we were to apply common sense (instead of partisan posturing) we'd have to acknowledge that Not Looking = zero chance of preventing, while devoting at least some resources to looking = some chance of preventing.
We were lucky that this was just this one dude who perpetuated this act of violence, but I remain concerned about the agency’s ability to protect this country from a major threat.
But because of Trump targeting the agency due to his vendetta, I believe the FBI’s ability to track down potential terrorists has been greatly compromised if not outright diminished.
That’s a very good point, and why it is very concerning regarding the changes at the FBI. In the past, the agency might have developed information regarding lone wolf attacks such as this one.
Now they spend so much of their time and resources on things Donald cares about, that they may well be missing things that in the past they'd have caught.
Second time I've seen this dumbassed comment on this thread, so I'll ask you the same thing. Identitify ANY other
"Leftist" terrorist in the last 50 years in the US. Lets see if either of you jagoffs can produce anything.
Some anti-natalists are really creepy disturbed people, just like the anti-pet people they start to sound like sociopaths looking for a safe place to be a sociopath about other living beings. And I think being child-free is a fine and rational decision, but I have seen Reddit.
There was one in one of my classes in grad school. In Anthrozoology, expressed his disgust for humans and what they do to animals which is fair, but went too far with it. Thinking great I hope this jerk doesn't own a semi-automatic rifle. Thankfully, he did not.
The story I hear is that he was in the building that exploded. Not sure if he committed suicide or it detonated before he was able to get out. That’s how they made him a person of interest but I’m not 100% on that yet.
Pam Bondi:
“…the Trump administration understands that women and mothers are the heartbeat of America,"
Then why are you trying to starve us, keep mothers & children in poverty through your inhumane policies of cutting social services, separating immigrant mothers & babies with no due process?
The endless encouragement of fringe groups and fringe thinking for years now.
The republicans are living in an alt-reality with alternative facts.
We have always had fringe groups, society as a whole condemned their insanity.
Republicans have become a fringe group.
Rank and file work will probably be somewhat unaffected until the president takes a notice on a case or Bondi/Patel insert themselves. You better believe if the bomber were brown, we'd never hear the end of it from them.
Absolutely no one on this thread did a basic google search or clicked an article link to see who this kid is and what has been released about his online presence.
And ultimately it all ties to just basic misogyny. This is just something that the right clashes with itself on. You have people like Musk who basically want axolotl tanks ala Dune and people who think anything modern that benefits women is of the devil. Fascists try to court both somehow.
It’s not anti-natalism, it’s anti-science because artificial insemination and fertility treatment goes against “God’s will” or something to that extent. Part of the fascist far right’s recent embrace of it is because weirdos like Musk are obsessed with having as much babies as possible.
They are indeed obsessed with babies, just not in the good way like grandmas. The term antinatalism is how he self-identified online according to the news outlets, but I also got more of a religious fanatic anti-science vibe.
Ah okay so he may have been a fringe among the fringe then. I guess that shouldn’t surprise me. Some of these whacko terrorists will hold all sorts of odd beliefs, even ones that may contradict each other. I think we can all agree that it was misogyny and anti science beliefs at the root either way.
They’ve always had a weird hatred towards fertility clinics because they view them as creating “unnatural soulless babies” in defiance of God or they understand just enough about them having to destroy embryos to consider them abortion by proxy. The embrace of them by pro-natalists is more recent.
“They” as in usually far right pro life types. Granted this apparently was not exactly him but a lot of people who threatened fertility clinics also were ironically anti abortion advocates. When these clinics first became a thing they were viewed as in defiance of God. This was common before 2000.
O. K. Me neither, but I never once thought of nuking a random Mother over it. A fertility clinic. Seriously?
🤷🏻♀️ sorry anyone got hurt when the trash took itself out.
I’m confused.Trump is claiming he supports IVF and The Heritage Institute’s Project 2025 manifesto demands more white babies to be born. Did this guy read the wrong post on 4Chan?
yeah imo this shit is just the inevitable result of the internet.
its true its basically impossible to ethically justify procreation in cases where the person wishes they never existed, it was inevitable one of these people would read online someone pointing out the absurdity lol
I’m not sure anyone is pro-abortion. That’s like being pro-root canal. Nobody is hoping for one but if you need one, you should have the choice to get one.
Not exactly. White yes Christian not so sure. He is anti life and doesn’t want to be here don’t ask into be born etc. some psycho beliefs related to IVF
I don't think this guy claimed Christianity. If the quotes are true (as in, actually his quotes), he said things like, "...I just wanted to say, your god definitely doesn't exist, but if he did, I'd choose satan over your evil god..."
Why are so many comments hate filled assumptions. What happened to seeing the world from all angles? What happened to empathy? What happened to truth? What happened to compassion!
so if the "primary person of interest" is dead, which does sometime happen when fucking around with homemade explosives, well the guy isn't very interesting now ... is he ... 😎
There has got to be some kind of trauma involved here 🤔. I’ve never heard of this either and I am chronically online. To be specific - I’m not making excuses for him or promoting violence - I’m just a VERY nosy person 😂
Probably some fringe thing like Q started as. Supposedly it’s how people shouldn’t have kids cause of the suffering and destroying the planet. I think it’s just to frightening here to have them
Anti natalism is that crazy shit that usually comes up in group when everyone is high AF on whatever drugs
That and it's cuzzin we better procreate 17 babies because God wants us to
Well seeing as the evidence shows, it’s the most dangerous type of person in America….the white fragile male ego fueled by divisive rhetoric and emboldened by people in power cheering that kind of behavior. This is not an anomaly it’s the result of their plan being put in play.
This only makes sense within the MAGA sphere. It's what they tell each other lefties and Democrats believe. It's what they believe is the message behind every warning of overpopulation. Wait for the actual story to leak out within a few years. My bet: he was a clueless anti-abortion terrorist
"Davis reiterated that law enforcement is treating the bombing as an act of terrorism and said investigators have gathered some clues showing Bartkus' state of mind, including online posts and other writings that investigators are now examining."
He hurt 4 people and did a lot of physical damage to several local businesses. Both Palm and Indian Canyon are still closed. Community is rattled. But you’re right- it could have been so much worse.
No. All embryos and eggs are fine. Clinics take major precautions against fire, earthquake, flood, zombie apocalypse (ok maybe not that one), because of the nature of their work. I’m very thankful for their strict protocols 💙
"FBI spokesperson Laura Eimiller confirmed that the agency was also investigating evidence "indicating antinatalist views." Antinatalism refers to a belief system that suggests it is wrong to have children."
No red cap involved. I'm sorry this is happening to you.
With respect, naming an incel terrorist encourages other desperate losers who want to gain notoriety as they attempt to take others out with their suicide attempts. Better for the media to describe, but not name, these punk perps.
No it is more likely because it happened in California, that California recognizes terrorism where as in Texas or North Carolina it would be downplayed by Republicans.
I'm certain the reason is because either he's a religious nature freak or thinks they make babies for gay couples. If there is any other reason than that it would be a bizarre mental illness one.
This particular clinic does serve the LGBTQ community, and while it hasn’t been brought up, I’m sure it was part of the equation. I’m sorry. I live here and I’m really angry.
Nobody did. This dude decided his play was to be like boo hoo I have the personality of a thumb, girls won’t date me, my life sucks, and instead of working to better himself, he chose terrorism.
The article indicates that this guy is anti-life. He has a belief that people shouldn't have children. He has nihilistic ideations. I have also read elsewhere that he was angry because he didn't ask to be born.
This guy (literally "Guy") was anything but prolife. He believed it would be better for everyone if they were never born. About as anti-life in both principal and action as you can get.
I was laying out w/my partner at the Hyatt Palm Springs when this happened. I had a PTSD moment, as I actually had a plane crash behind my house in Yorba Linda several years ago. look it up. I thought it was actually a plane exploding before it took off. This is so devastating. Palm Springs =💪
Curious to see if FBI reports all facts, or how deep "Trump loyalty" is injected into the ranks. They've weakened every other American institution by turning them into Fox News shows.
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I would say he wasn't trying to stop abortions, as aborting would be in line with his philosiphy; but IVF and other pro-birth actions are the exact opposite of what he believed, so he would probably be trying to prevent them.
FoxNews on their way to sane wash him. "He was a model citizen", "The woke mind virus forced him to do it", "Their neighbours said that he was a quiet person"
He believed no one should have kids. I do wish people would stop forcing their beliefs on everyone, or I'm gonna start forcing everyone to be chocolate-loving atheists.
It’s unfortunate — after the ‘assassination’ attempts and J6 ‘tourists’ and Qatari ‘gifts’ and ICE ‘agents’, et al — federal law enforcement has zero credibility. Absolute zero 0.
Crickets from the fucking felon. Is it because his golf game is more important than people’s lives & domestic terrorism? Oh wait. I almost forgot about his support of the insurrection. So never mind…
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America didn’t stop colonizing—it just found quieter ways to do it.
Let that sink in.
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Anti-natalism should not be anything more than a philosophical exercise. It makes absolutely zero sense, even within the framework of that ideology, to then take the lives of others. The entire idea is that you were born without consent. So why take a life without consent?
like:
random person with default religion from childhood>deconvert cause its nonsense>for whatever reason adopts some insane bs instead of well, not, like most atheists.
IDK. kind of funny in an absurd way. If he had spent less effort maybe he could have held onto a deity & been 'fine'.
Like there is religion but it doesnt stand up to scrutiny.
Like I wonder if a useful secular religion could have prevented this, probably not, but a lot of times ppl are much more likely to do this in their 20s (insane shit).
Anyway, this shit was inevitable post internet. In a case where someone doesnt want to have ever existed AND is suicidal and/or homocidal about it AND has read someone pointing out the basic ethical absurdity of existing...was just a matter of time tbh
Best I can tell this guy was not MAGA. Not really representative of any of our political boxes. He just had an ideology that was about as anti-life as you can get.
And, now we'll be treated to weeks of hearing about him being bullied into his terrorism bc some girl turned him down for his HS prom, bc OF COURSE white men are never responsible for their murderous actions.
Like clockwork.
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Another defect removed from the gene pool and a serious contender for this year's Darwin Awards.
I'm just grateful that nobody else was harmed in the blast.
Trump's FBI is spending so much time investigating Trump's "enemies" that I wonder if they're on top of domestic terrorism at all.
What a strange way of thinking …… why tf would law enforcement report every single terrorist attack they stopped to the media?
But if we were to apply common sense (instead of partisan posturing) we'd have to acknowledge that Not Looking = zero chance of preventing, while devoting at least some resources to looking = some chance of preventing.
This particular guy may be more of a lone nut, though--one that the FBI, in years past, might have been watching. Now: who knows?
Now find the DNC bomber.
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https://x.com/ghostmthr/status/1923919940135846273?t=FVZpp0jHiwu60--ZZh4LJA&s=19
He was the one in the car when he blew it up so I'd go with no, he was not ok.
"Leftist" terrorist in the last 50 years in the US. Lets see if either of you jagoffs can produce anything.
Sorry. I write books.
You?
https://x.com/ghostmthr/status/1923919940135846273?t=FVZpp0jHiwu60--ZZh4LJA&s=19
“…the Trump administration understands that women and mothers are the heartbeat of America,"
Then why are you trying to starve us, keep mothers & children in poverty through your inhumane policies of cutting social services, separating immigrant mothers & babies with no due process?
"How would an Anti-natalist, Pro-mortalist, Nihilist view IVF?"
Here's the 'Bottom Line Statement/Question' Response from this kind of a person:
“Why go to such lengths to create life in a universe devoid of meaning, only to guarantee suffering and death?"
They are the new environmentalist.
The republicans are living in an alt-reality with alternative facts.
We have always had fringe groups, society as a whole condemned their insanity.
Republicans have become a fringe group.
https://x.com/ghostmthr/status/1923919940135846273?t=FVZpp0jHiwu60--ZZh4LJA&s=19
🤷🏻♀️ sorry anyone got hurt when the trash took itself out.
Join the club, buddy.
its true its basically impossible to ethically justify procreation in cases where the person wishes they never existed, it was inevitable one of these people would read online someone pointing out the absurdity lol
In a murder-suicide, you always start with yourself.
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Do not take this comment to be in support of the pro-life movement. It’s just weird how people don’t read.
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https://x.com/ghostmthr/status/1923919940135846273?t=FVZpp0jHiwu60--ZZh4LJA&s=19
Anti natalism is that crazy shit that usually comes up in group when everyone is high AF on whatever drugs
That and it's cuzzin we better procreate 17 babies because God wants us to
More info:
Bartkus appears to have identified himself online as a "pro-mortalist," someone who thought the world was overpopulated and opposed the propagation of humanity.
https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/local/palm-springs/2025/05/18/guy-bartkus-palm-springs-fertility-clinic-bombing-suspect/83710302007/
"Davis reiterated that law enforcement is treating the bombing as an act of terrorism and said investigators have gathered some clues showing Bartkus' state of mind, including online posts and other writings that investigators are now examining."
Still awful, but... silver lining.
You have now created Domestic Religious Terrorism in the United States.
Well done... 🤨 I am sure Christ would approve...
Well, happy dying.
How long do you think it will be before thump blames pro choice liberals since this guy was against people having children?
Now if they could just do it at home…
https://x.com/ghostmthr/status/1923919940135846273?t=FVZpp0jHiwu60--ZZh4LJA&s=19
"FBI spokesperson Laura Eimiller confirmed that the agency was also investigating evidence "indicating antinatalist views." Antinatalism refers to a belief system that suggests it is wrong to have children."
No red cap involved. I'm sorry this is happening to you.
https://iep.utm.edu/anti-natalism/
Growing into adulthood as an anti-natalist says more about society than it does about him.
That said .. he was a weak mother fkr.
The world is better off without him.
But not what you've come to expect here.
And they make no sense. 🤷🏼
He belongs where he is. ❤️
Bad people do bad things.
To make Good people do bad things, that takes religion.
https://x.com/ghostmthr/status/1923919940135846273?t=FVZpp0jHiwu60--ZZh4LJA&s=19
S' c'est vrai il sera nominé aux Darwin Awards...
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It’s unfortunate — after the ‘assassination’ attempts and J6 ‘tourists’ and Qatari ‘gifts’ and ICE ‘agents’, et al — federal law enforcement has zero credibility. Absolute zero 0.
Get rid of a couple more little kids with cancer and grad students, we'll be so safe.
America didn’t stop colonizing—it just found quieter ways to do it.
Let that sink in.
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Probably we will see all sorts of super-rare random ass extremism (like this guys pro mortality shit) now that the internet is ubiquitous.
Overall I suspect most ppl like this have serious mental health issues 😆
random person with default religion from childhood>deconvert cause its nonsense>for whatever reason adopts some insane bs instead of well, not, like most atheists.
IDK. kind of funny in an absurd way. If he had spent less effort maybe he could have held onto a deity & been 'fine'.
Like there is religion but it doesnt stand up to scrutiny.
Like I wonder if a useful secular religion could have prevented this, probably not, but a lot of times ppl are much more likely to do this in their 20s (insane shit).
Anyway, this shit was inevitable post internet. In a case where someone doesnt want to have ever existed AND is suicidal and/or homocidal about it AND has read someone pointing out the basic ethical absurdity of existing...was just a matter of time tbh
Like clockwork.
But, yeah. Still not a drag queen.