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mollyjongfast.bsky.social • 172 days ago

Reporting is actually very expensive and can’t be duplicated by a person with a phone.

the LA fires inspire a lot of thoughts, one being how absolutely baby-brained some people are to think that journalists with personal blogs can replace the resources, teamwork, and coordination of actual newspapers

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bridgetbiden4ever.bsky.social•172 days ago

The sane washing has caused our side to mimic the right's 'fake news' taunts, which is scary. How can newspapers expect to survive pandering to the side that doesn't read?

bridgetbiden4ever.bsky.social•172 days ago

I see many bloggers and even many 'news' outlets just ripping from the bigs. Though I used to silently take pride in paying full price for the Times and WAPO when friends spoke of deals, now I work the deals. Dropped WAPO, but will re-up with the Times at rock bottom bc of all of the sane washing.

sarahj-ca.bsky.social•172 days ago

I follow a couple professional storm chasers and it's the same for them.. some dingaling with cell phone showing a tornado, or fires, is the not the same as a person with training, knowledge and resources, all which take time, education and money

PS, can you not tag people in comments?

tandigi.bsky.social•172 days ago

You also can’t report local issues from a newsroom in New York. During disasters the best reporters are from the regional newsrooms. Their local knowledge is invaluable at times like this.

raoulhubris.bsky.social•172 days ago

Can we save Journalism from the media?

raoulhubris.bsky.social•172 days ago

Newspapers cannot put the common good above the profit margin. Fine, give me a non-profit news source. My job is to winnow out all the crap the corporate sales force uses to distract and obfuscate and sell my allegiance.

peasquish.bsky.social•172 days ago

A person with a phone telling the truth straight out is way better than a bunch of expensive liars (not directed at you :)).

theo100.bsky.social•172 days ago

Journalism seems to be dead. Do colleges even teach journalism now? Truth is no longer required. Integrity is frowned upon. It's all money now and serving the already wealthy.

projectfactz.bsky.social•172 days ago

https://suno.com/song/e6e6d00a-6eb9-44c8-8006-44ef978ea34f

laurelvandriest.bsky.social•172 days ago

X and Watch Duty have been very useful resources for our friends in the area.

les1013.bsky.social•172 days ago

Yep..unfortunately, our news media is hobbled by owner’s agenda…ergo we get partial news which is mostly a narrative

jakey-scot.bsky.social•172 days ago

Meh…. I will be convinced

When it’s not typically some 15 year old boy getting the scoop with the truth, live streaming on his phone

Whilst the main news networks sit on the truth to broadcast the opposite

Major outlet news/Journalism have made their bed - they can lie in it

mallie1885.bsky.social•172 days ago

Exactly. Exactly.

bigheadtales.bsky.social•172 days ago

Isn't this exactly why billionaire fascists like Bezos, Musk, Shiong, and Ochs-Sulzberger want to own and control news outlets?

titaniumteddybear.bsky.social•172 days ago

You're right. We need large news networks.

Which is a damn shame because many of the existing news networks aren't allowed to use the word "genocide" or the phrase "climate change" even when reporting directly on those issues.

If legacy news media isn't giving us accurate news then it should die.

prr333.bsky.social•172 days ago

Absolutely true.

thomaswolfe.bsky.social•172 days ago

I saw a person post on bluesky that he was not going to get info from local news/watch duty/calcite, etc., but instead depend on people on social media to tell him emergency info.

Smfh.

anniepatriotic.bsky.social•172 days ago

But after having been raised with Fox, who really employs no real investigative reporters, can we expect people to understand this? They have been raised to think reporting news is actually all about scoring points against the other side.

thecuyahogakid.bsky.social•172 days ago

Amen to that.

sfmisfit.bsky.social•171 days ago

They have to start somewhere. It’s a matter of no longer having any faith or trust in MSM. They let this happen. I’ll assume that these individual journalists are not beholden to anyone and I trust more in that right now.

rudefulk.bsky.social•172 days ago

Probably not but it can’t be worse than a corporate entity choosing what to report and how to report it or report on something at all.

renslaer.bsky.social•172 days ago

Molly, you’re supporting the LA Times!

renslaer.bsky.social•172 days ago

nobody WANTS legacy media to spread misinformation. should people just sit back and let it happen? should people NOT do independent journalism to fight back because they don’t have massive amounts of money??

roddusi.bsky.social•172 days ago

This underscores how Fox News, founded on the principle that people don’t necessarily want to BE informed, they want to FEEL informed, was so successful in creating a cable “news” network on the cheap.

liamish34.bsky.social•172 days ago

I miss journalism

tinamarie1959.bsky.social•172 days ago

Are they any actual papers to be trusted
I trust you but....

madeleine333.bsky.social•172 days ago

So wrong…independent journalists are far doing better than oligarch owned newpapers and legacy media as they are not climate deniers. We are getting updates on the fire several times a day from @aaronparnas.bsky.social via youtube. More than I can say for the oligarchs.

rogersullivan.bsky.social•172 days ago

If a paper, like the LA Times, uses those resources to help bring about a fascist dictatorship in our country, I think it's a net negative.

atticus-finch1.bsky.social•172 days ago

Maybe if they consistently told the truth we would utilize traditional media sources. Until then, we have a dilemma

pkolbenschlag.bsky.social•172 days ago

Legacy media broke itself.

It does truly suck for those of us who believe in the need for a robust 4th Estate, but blaming news consumers in the current milieu seems incorrect.

hollyphantpants.bsky.social•172 days ago

That’s the worrying thing about all the quality news sources turning themselves into unreliable mouthpieces for the right. Where will we get information from when everything is Fox News?

azben.bsky.social•172 days ago

Journalism has decentralize and innovate - turning blogs, podcasts, and grassroots networks into tools for truth.

If billionaires control the press, we need a movement to make truth louder than money.

spin4srv.bsky.social•172 days ago

There is value in small form journalism but there is also a lot of noise and it's just not capable of performing all of the functions of larger publications.

azben.bsky.social•172 days ago

*has TO decentralize.

I can’t afford an editor either.

carldownunder.bsky.social•172 days ago

Over the past 10 years I’ve watched msm degrade to the extent that I can believe they use monkeys to proofread. One typo is nothing

desertscott.bsky.social•172 days ago

Molly is correct that reporting is expensive. Individuals need to assess the different news sources and find reliable ones, but a guy with a podcast is not the same as credible journalism. It takes work. Both legacy media and independent journalists can provide very useful info.

macpace.bsky.social•172 days ago

Some seem to report on facts and tell the public information that large corporate owned media won't allow. It doesn't feel like journalism when so much information is not reported.

n3ver-5urrender.bsky.social•172 days ago

Great. So the billionaire oligarchs and right wingers that can afford these expenses hire the sniveling ass kissing journalist that will write what they are told, and publish their misinformation, bias and propaganda as a "respected and trusted" outlet. Sound familiar?

blackswamphattie.bsky.social•172 days ago

Disseminating in print is expensive. Developing a trust with an audience is time consuming.

Journalists continuing to associate with corporate owners that dgaf about truth are culpable for the mistrust of the industry.

When you ignore the code of ethics, there's consequences.

furuazul.bsky.social•172 days ago

I hear you; however, we no longer trust legacy media because billionaires pull the strings and dictate what and how to report.

fuchsiagr0an.bsky.social•172 days ago

The quality of reporting can absolutely be duplicated by a person with a phone. Like photography - if you're good, the apparatus doesn't matter.

*Dissemination* is expensive

gabeburgess.bsky.social•172 days ago

The problem is far too many think that being a journalist consists of scrolling through their social media on their phones.

pghdlo.bsky.social•172 days ago

Good morning Molly💙🦋💙

njbeachcat.bsky.social•172 days ago

Unfortunately, at least here in New Jersey, most Newspapers fired their reporters decades ago and just rip their stories off the AP Wire and print them. Local Papers are worthless.

survivingcraig.bsky.social•172 days ago

we should make it easier for people with little or no resources to be capable of making an impact in reporting.....i know something has to exist but maybe there is a better way, especially considering the role of social media now a days!

aliasalice.bsky.social•172 days ago

What many don't understand is that sharing rumors or personal experiences is not reporting.

milsma.bsky.social•172 days ago

I dunno. Some seem to do pretty well on limited resources.

twocatfarm1.bsky.social•172 days ago

In a non-Trump world where democracy norms & institutions were in place, I might agree that reporting couldn’t be duplicated by a person w/ a phone. But with corporate media bending the knee to an insane fool intent on grifting & destroying America in the process, l’m ok w/ the person with a phone.

month2taco.bsky.social•172 days ago

Using phones to film events, ( like my son sometimes does at sports events) doesn't "complete" the story to me.

antiquequaalude.bsky.social•172 days ago

They should've probably made better use of their resources then instead of allowing their own journalists to keep their info. they gathered while on jobs paid for by the company so they could publish it a year too late in a book for their own profit.

Media companies are now just billionaire toys

defye.bsky.social•172 days ago

I believe this. It just hi-lights the fact that we as Americans have few resources for obtaining factual information. Our enemy controls all of it. This is dangerous, frustrating and sad.

wyomingrunner.bsky.social•171 days ago

Its a conundrum. Reporters need a forum. If they are laid off because a paper folds in any local area, how can you then get good local news? But, are all the local papers owned by Sinclair? Then you have to wonder about the editorial direction.

onitetsuo.bsky.social•172 days ago

And when it crosses over to for-profit propaganda, journalism suffers.

stonemom.bsky.social•172 days ago

That's all very well but leaves unanswered the question of what to do when the newspapers fall under the control of those who favor fascism - or, at the least, are too cowardly to resist it and become utter quislings.... What then?

rytualerror.bsky.social•172 days ago

"When the newspapers fall..." They already have. And the question "what to do?" is the right one, but the answer (I think) is the opposite of Ms. Jong-Fast's view. I think our best hope is a WikiNews type system. Networks of contributors who aggregate and peer review each others reports.

stonemom.bsky.social•172 days ago

I don't know what the answer is. But relying on the New York Times to "do better" is clearly not the answer.

paranoidfactoid2.bsky.social•172 days ago

When newspaper owners manipulate content for political or personal benefit, there's no recourse for customers. Can't stop buying or it might hurt journalism! Buy or else. Yet when owners destroy thousands of reporting jobs in mass consolidation, that's capitalism. Suck it up!

This asymmetry is bad.

onthecaseman.bsky.social•172 days ago

The news model is broken.

Live news reporting hasn't been good, and has been getting worse, for decades. The networks used to have branches and reporters in cities all over the world to cover breaking news. Now they rely on LOCAL reporters and FOUND footage from civilians with iPhones.

northsleuth.bsky.social•172 days ago

I agree, but the paywall model is not working. Journalists need to be rewarded for their work, and readers need a subscription model that does not require them to purchase multiple subscriptions. A subscription that allows # articles/month and ability to select your favorite journalists.

thekrakensays.bsky.social•172 days ago

“Journalists with personal blogs” are bloggers, not journalists, unless they’ve got the degrees and credentials or are employed by an actual news organization.🙄

michelefromct.bsky.social•172 days ago

Exactly!

heidihenry.bsky.social•172 days ago

Amen!

comen-tator.bsky.social•171 days ago

Unfortunately, since corporate news organizations are failing to carry out that mandate that the founding fathers gave them, to keep the people informed of the facts; it is falling upon the shoulders of those individuals and small organizations to fill the gap!

Thank you to all of you who do it!

revdoktoralleycat.bsky.social•172 days ago

Thinking about how many real journalists I've seen using a phone to get a report out from a war zone. 🤔 It's not the phone, it's the person holding it.

thelibertypear.com•172 days ago

Curious….

https://bsky.app/profile/thelibertypear.bsky.social/post/3lfcmbkux3c2h

jaywilliams.pro•172 days ago

just need chatGPT and 2 interns.

how HARD can it be?

rytualerror.bsky.social•172 days ago

We don't have a choice. The media can't be trusted.

Networks of people sharing things on their phones is the best we can hope for right now. It'll have to do.

I'm done trusting corporate media. Not CNN, not MSNBC, certainly not Fox or NewsMax.

hofesmartmouth.bsky.social•171 days ago

And a brain and no agenda just reporting the facts

mantisgadfly424.bsky.social•172 days ago

We need a news channel dedicated to reporting, with actual reporters, reporting reportable news.

#NewsPunditsSuck

nlroundabout.bsky.social•172 days ago

Or robots.

jperryfarm.bsky.social•172 days ago

Actual newspapers and news media need to do better and stop sanewashing all the crazy crap going on in the United States. They have to earn back trust....it's going to be very difficult.

stonemom.bsky.social•172 days ago

Well, that's not happening. If anything, many of them are bending over backwards to accommodate the crazies in power. The sane washing has gotten worse in the last few weeks.

stonemom.bsky.social•172 days ago

I should have said, "the crazies who will be in power..."

bridgetteareva2.bsky.social•172 days ago

I don’t see that happening any time soon.

lynnenallo.bsky.social•172 days ago

We have to rely on independent Journalists to keep the truth alive.

jperryfarm.bsky.social•172 days ago

You're right....so grateful for them!

lynnenallo.bsky.social•172 days ago

Definitely!

billyjoegreenejr.bsky.social•171 days ago

Which means support them, because well it’s hard and expensive and sometimes dangerous. You know this but readers my take it for granted when relying on independents

lynnenallo.bsky.social•171 days ago

Definitely!

lynnenallo.bsky.social•172 days ago

My daughter is a Journalism Major and for two days after Chump was re-elected, she thought about changing her career path. She finally said, “Screw that, I’m not complying in advance, I’m going to report harder now!” I cracked up! Reporting is hard work, even on a junior level!

vjm4democracy.bsky.social•172 days ago

You done good, Mom!

lynnenallo.bsky.social•171 days ago

;)

curtnaus.bsky.social•172 days ago

Ok sure but who has more likes and follows ????

Huh??

Yeah that’s right. Those influencers. They got it down.

Now let me tell you about this great dietary supplement.

monamo60.bsky.social•172 days ago

For me, it's kinda like football. I'd rather watch hungry college players grind for their future than highly paid discriminate employees who swayed & controlled by their owners/CEO's. It may be rustic & unrefined, but at least it's the straight 💩.

luperamos1949.bsky.social•172 days ago

Again Ty to Pres Biden Gov Newsom, firefighters, law enforcement, 1st Responders,All Emergency services, Pilots flying overhead with Water&Fire Retardents on the land. GOD BLESS YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICES!🙏🙏🙏💯💯💯🫂🫂🫂@gavinnewsom

im2b.bsky.social•172 days ago

But falling I strap that money in it is more important than ultimate ownership credibility is just as bad.

loopmovie.bsky.social•172 days ago

I guess it's better than nothing tho.

staciegregory.bsky.social•172 days ago

But people without billionaires to answer to at newspapers that won’t publish news sure does seem appealing. There’s a lot more to it than money.

starjet.bsky.social•172 days ago

When my friend was a print reporter in New England about 15 years ago, they were required to take their own photos. Cost cutting has been going on for a long time in the news biz

kibbitz.bsky.social•172 days ago

The unseen danger of destroying mainstream journalism. Now we all suffer. Or build back better.

josephcappadonia.bsky.social•172 days ago

It takes a team.

ezbluze.bsky.social•171 days ago

They're all bought off now. I only read trusted sources, like MJF.💙

foughtfortoday.bsky.social•172 days ago

Since most of us have lost any faith in the media telling the truth are you surprised people trust someone with a phone at the scene. No I am not slamming every reporter or journalist, but We need a lies detector test to see which one is truthful.

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