Right! She can get them into the Oval Office at the drop of a dime, they can record there! Those “special” photos that the GOP just brought back from the Kremlin will do the listening and documenting for them! It’s a win-win!
Many of us Michiganders the same thing. She's been invisible since the election. Didn't come to the state Democrat convention in Feb, not commenting protest rallies or marches with exception of Lansing rally to mark 1 yr of MI red flag and safe storage laws. She's kinda disappeared from the party
I'm terrified for her. Speaking truth to power as a black woman has always been dangerous in America, today even more so.
AOC & JC are the real deal. 🇺🇸
Really? A lot of people thought she was a good vice presidential candidate. Some even thought she would have beaten Harris had there been a primary. Her turn the last couple of weeks has been shocking to many.
You’ve done 2 horrible photo ops with him, what the fuck are you waiting for? Do your fucking job! Gretch, I have been a huge supporter, but the last few months you are really screwing the pooch.
She and Newsom are finished in Democratic politics. Their only chance for future public office is to switch parties and become Republiwhigs. Even doing that's a long shot; MA GAts hate them both.
Gavin has always in "secret" been a conservative. His only hope of a political career in the bay area was to claim to be a democrat. He married this woman & then another Republican after her.
There's a reason he's so readily identified as a fraud.
It's time at least some people question just why the party establishment keeps forcing these choices down our throats for us. They're saying we're not going to have a choice for the next CA governor either. Kamala, or Kamala.
Unless Emhoff resigns his Willkie partnership, whatever the cost, Harris won't have a chance. No matter what "party leadership" attempts. I've been a Californian since 1978; nothing would motivate me more to work for a different candidate than her husband's consorting with the enemy for money.
I hope you're right. I only know the high points about the Emhoff thing, ultimately I'd like to never have to think about either of them again. So if that's what keeps her off of any ballot I have to vote on, great.
They love a defector to the dark side. Fetterman, for example. (Not officially maga, yet. But he’s kissed the ring so hard it appears as if he’s swallowed it.)
To the American Fascist Party, that feels like “owning the libs”.
The establishment loves these types, though, as you can see from being on the establishment's podcast. Don't discount them pushing her or Newsom on us anyway, or their new billionaire hero JB.
Even if she really hadn’t confronted him on that, it’s amazing she gave Favreau such a bad answer. Is she completely losing it? Governors are supposed to be better at this shit!
What I dont understand is why people ever esteemed her so highly. I vited for her twuce in the general election. Cant even remember about the primaries. She has done well as long as Democrats had the Michigan trifecta. But thats not a strong test. Never a great communicator
All the #Democratic governors whom ppl said should have been the nominee or at least had a chance in a mini primary are closer to the GOP than is Harris.
If I understand things correctly, she went to Washington to save Selfridge Air Force base from closing. She protected jobs for Michigan and pretty sure that is one of her main responsibilities as Governor
I guess we should be grateful she revealed herself. I listened to the interview. She's been a competent governor, but beyond that she is insufficient for the moment. Next!
We have our good things, but weird is accurate. Especially in respect to political demographics. The militias aren't as large or organized now, but that mentality and lifestyle are still very present. 30 years, and their situations haven't improved, yet they still believe gop cares about them.
Dude knock this shit off. Give our pols some grace and some space. You aren't doing anybody any good with this constant "off with their heads" shit. I imagine it makes you feel all good and pure and righteous though. But just stop it.
The people who are in positions of power who decide they cannot/will not go head to head with DonOld need to step aside. At this point she is too weak & subservient to get anything done for her State & the trust is broken. To be honest..just not the right person for this time.
Do any of you live in Michigan? Trump’s economic policies are killing us between the make Canada a state nonsense and the tariffs. She got Trump to agree on keeping Selfridge Air Force Base open which means 30000 jobs and over $800 million in economic activity. /1
Haha good point, but some will run in the primary.
I am hoping Trump 2.0 will be such an unmitigated disaster that Americans will be ready for AOC as POTUS 😅
It seems to me that she was behaving like a Democrat before the election was decided; once Trump got into power and began to establish his dictatorship, she is showing her true colors as a self interested person who is going to glom onto the winning team.
The one silver lining to the Trump regime is that it’s extraordinarily illuminating. It’s showing us who people are. I didn’t expect Whitmer and Newsome to be such toadies, and Pritzker to be such a fighter.
She is looking at running for the presidency, and she just like some Democrats think that if she sounds like a Republican that she could win. I’m here to say that she is a fool for believing that.
I don’t think she has a chance as a presidential candidate after holding a folder in front of her face in the Oval Office. That (and the whole situation around it) will come back to haunt her.
The only reason she was allowed a 2nd term was because she fought Trump in his first term. Now, she’s becoming the John Fetterman of Michigan in 2025 to appease the people who tried to kidnap and torture her, literally!
Ask her how she denied nurses to come into Michigan from out of state to help with Covid. She wouldn't let them in because Michigan isn't a compact license state. So, people died over logistics. I could go on and on...
States other than Michigan. Do you know how hard and time-consuming taking care of 1 Covid taking was? Excess nurses because surgical centers and clinics canceled procedures across the US.
No. Any nurse can take a "travel" assignment. They were letting graduate nurses in Michigan work before they even took their NCLEX exam. The exam is the same across the states. There was no logic behind her decision except $. She works closely with the hospital CEOs.
I was just under the impression that every state was struggling to maintain enough nurses, and that nurses were getting premium pay to travel so some were quitting regular jobs to travel instead, and… game theory … they can’t all be travel nurses or the whole system kinda implodes.
Am I sympathetic that she has to deal with this administration? Yes. Do I recognize she has to walk a tightrope to protect her citizens? Yes. BUT if she isn’t ready to fight, she isn’t the right person for this moment. This admin will NEVER have loyalty or empathy. Either stand tough or step aside.
I wonder if she got scared off by the kidnapping plot. I can imagine that would rattle anyone, and cozying up to trump may be literal survival for her. Also, her state is fairly divided. All of which to say she doesn’t have the risk tolerance to lead right now.
She has been disappointing her voters in Michigan for about a year now. Don't know what happened. She is term limited, so maybe this is the real Gretch.
When will boomer politicians bow out gracefully? Do other generations get to make laws affecting their future? Since 2016 we’ve had a rotating cast of geriatric presidents representing this country. Decisions made now will affect generations for years and it’s bullshit.
The young gotta start showing up. Regular people have to run for office. I’m hoping these protests get people talking and connecting. But yeah, you make a great point! The old guard won’t pass the torch.
The younger generations have lost hope and confidence. Not many care about our political situation or think they have an actual say in it. Regular people still need backing from a political party and financial support to run in most cases. What pelosi did to AOC is good example.
I am so disappointed that she has become a Trump dupe...I will be astonished if Trump keeps any of his agreement. Now that he's made her bend over to kiss his ass, he's gotten what he wants so why bother actually following through? My governor has a new custom shade of lipstick
I have not been following, but this seems like just an honest answer. There are X amount of topics anyone can cover in a conversation. Just because your favorites were not among them does not say anything about her overall effectiveness.
Really think at this point there may be some kind of real fear and not merely being replacement level (which she is). I think we are seeing this play out in so much of the “don’t provoke him” mentality of our American Ostrich caucus.
I see this as a master level manipulation by Trump on Whitmer. She's Gov of Michigan, a State he dearly wants to maintain his hold on. The schmooze he gives her is kid glove schmooze to keep her off guard. Hopefully she is incorruptible. Until she pulls a Lindsey I keep my fingers crossed for her.
I thought she held her nose & was able to get funding for an Air Force base in MI? Was that not good? She took a PR L but got her state 30k jobs? Also funding to combat carp infestation?
Well at least she sounds better than Abbott who gleefully agrees to a militarized border & banishing citizens
The bar exists & exemplifies what we’re facing
Purity Test politics undermines the resistance
Also completely unfair to compare Gov Whitmer with Newsom
She danced with the devil to get her people funding & jobs @governor.ca.gov platformed a fascist & joined in trans hate for ambition/self interest
Agreed.
The democrats have to figure out how to be something other than "republican light". I will never again vote for a "lesser evil" nor should anyone else.
Tired of the lack of backbone and pandering to what they know is evil.
You, as a Democratic governor, meet with the fascist president TWICE, once IN THE WHITE HOUSE, and you don't even MENTION all the fascism??? Resign immediately.
Hey ya’ll. She’s busy making Michigan a better place to live. She’s done a damn good job! I think it’s interesting that some folks, particularly men, think if you’re not doing things their way, although they probably couldn’t do half the job you’re doing, none the less think their opinion matters.
All Trump wanted was to have her grovel and be humiliated by him especially when he doesn't follow thru on delivering on his deals...ask the people in WI who were going to get 3,000 jobs from a new $4 billion plant in 2016 but got 0. Gretchen did not win over one Republican but lost lots of Dems
Thank you.
She went to meet Trump to ask him to stop auto tariffs. She has to run MI. That means cutting tariffs.
She didn’t poke Trump in the eye.
Like Zelenskyy, she showed Trump what has to happen.
After the kidnapping incident, people were bandying around her name as a future leader in the party and possible POTUS nom. Now she wants to associate with the people who meant to do her egregious harm.
They didn't actually get to kidnap her though. It was thwarted so she should not have Stockholm syndrome. I'm sure there's something else at play here though.
I'm conflicted. We always say we want people to do what's right for their constituents even if it means they lose politically. But what happens when doing what's right for your constituents means doing something gross like being nice to Trump? We don't hold it against Zelenskyy. Why Whitmer?
She's in a tough spot. People will trade a lot of freedom for stability and economic security. It's one of the reasons economic chaos almost always comes before dictatorship. So, does she prevent economic hardship as best she can or does her capitulation bring us closer to a dictator?
Me too. I would choose my own dignity. But, I also know that Warren, MI is pretty MAGA and they would want her to be a barrier between tariffs and job loss.
The petty part of me, the part that has no business near government, would let them suffer the consequences of their vote.
Nothing in Trump's track record shows that he actually delivers on his deals because all he wants is the groveling and humiliation. I have no expectation that we will ever get that new mission and planes. Check with WI voters who were promised in 2016 to get a new plant with 2-3k jobs...they got nil
Good point. But what's the price of making a deal with a guy who is notorious for ignoring his word when you and everyone knows he's not trustworthy. She's made Michigan into Charlie Brown to Trump's Lucy. Who feels bad for Charlie when he keeps trying to convince himself she's going to change?
Makes me cynical. Who are these people? What did they stand for? What makes her think we’re all a bunch of dumb f$&@‘s who want to vote for someone who hugs Trump? Speaks like him? What lies does she tell herself to convince herself she believes herself. Circular
Strength isn’t saying you’re not afraid, it’s acting like it when it matters.
If you won’t confront power when your own state is under attack, what exactly are you waiting for?
So we want Republican Representatives to put their constituents needs ahead of their political careers because it is the right thing to do. But when a Dem governor does exactly that, you all throw her under the bus. That’s fucked up.
Have thought that from the moment she gave a deer in the headlights rebuttal to a Trump State of the Union address. Good on her for turning the tide in Michigan for a time but it—and she—has little staying power.
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AOC & JC are the real deal. 🇺🇸
Somebody wake me up when Democratic hopefuls realize we would rather have a martyr than a coward
There's a reason he's so readily identified as a fraud.
To the American Fascist Party, that feels like “owning the libs”.
Gedouddahere Gretch.
But SHE WAS NOT EVER GOING TO BE PRESIDENT
So who cares
We don't need just another doorstop with faux concern. We need people unafraid to fight.
I am hoping Trump 2.0 will be such an unmitigated disaster that Americans will be ready for AOC as POTUS 😅
What a freaking joke.
A little too phony. A little too staged.
Nobody wants tax cuts for the rich and austerity and leftovers for the poor and working class.
Well at least she sounds better than Abbott who gleefully agrees to a militarized border & banishing citizens
Purity Test politics undermines the resistance
Also completely unfair to compare Gov Whitmer with Newsom
She danced with the devil to get her people funding & jobs @governor.ca.gov platformed a fascist & joined in trans hate for ambition/self interest
I doff my cap, sir.😎😂
Totally accurate, too.
If you want our vote, this aint the way to do it. Distance yourself from this shithow and do not obey in advance.
The democrats have to figure out how to be something other than "republican light". I will never again vote for a "lesser evil" nor should anyone else.
Tired of the lack of backbone and pandering to what they know is evil.
She went to meet Trump to ask him to stop auto tariffs. She has to run MI. That means cutting tariffs.
She didn’t poke Trump in the eye.
Like Zelenskyy, she showed Trump what has to happen.
Gretch as in retch
The petty part of me, the part that has no business near government, would let them suffer the consequences of their vote.
I hope 3+ years is enough time to rehab from this moment. If Trump goes down in flames (how can he not) we will need a lot of Democrats to rebuild.
If you won’t confront power when your own state is under attack, what exactly are you waiting for?
Cross pendant?
5” heels?
If the old ghouls are still lurking around Washington by 2028, she'll probably be the nominee
What a waste of time she turned out to be